[PS3]The Last of Us
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What is so intriguing is how subjectives reviews can be, 7.5 is not bad by any means but compared to a perfect score it is really quite a gap.
So what makes for a complete review just to name a few points on regards to an adventure/survival game?
1. Script
2. Playability
3. Graphics
4. Sounds
5. Replay value
6. Length/Duration on single player
7. Multiplayer
And many more.
So my point is, if a review is a summation of all of these factors, some of them technical (objective review) some of them personal tastes/likings/feelings (subjective review), does it really explain a 25 points difference?
So what makes for a complete review just to name a few points on regards to an adventure/survival game?
1. Script
2. Playability
3. Graphics
4. Sounds
5. Replay value
6. Length/Duration on single player
7. Multiplayer
And many more.
So my point is, if a review is a summation of all of these factors, some of them technical (objective review) some of them personal tastes/likings/feelings (subjective review), does it really explain a 25 points difference?
Robin
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Wow the praise is pretty glowing apart from that 7.5,
CVG: 10 - The Last of Us is a remarkable achievement, and one of those rare games that you never want to end as you approach the finale. It tells a moving story that will linger in your mind long after the credits have rolled, but never loses sight of the fact that it's a video game, not a film. It's a masterful marriage of storytelling and game design, and easily Naughty Dog's finest moment.
Official PlayStation Magazine UK: 10 - A work of art in which amazing sights and sounds fuel an emotionally draining, constantly compelling end of days adventure. This is Naughty Dog pushing PS3 to its absolute limit. Over to you, PS4.
Edge: 10 - Naughty Dog has delivered the most riveting, emotionally resonant story-driven epic of this console generation. At times it's easy to feel like big-budget development has too much on the line to allow stubbornly artful ideas to flourish, but then a game like The Last Of Us emerges through the crumbled blacktop like a climbing vine, green as a burnished emerald.
SFX: 5/5 - "Sometimes, you just have to cut to the chase: The Last Of Us is the pinnacle of traditional narrative storytelling in any interactive medium, and one of the finest games ever made."
Next Gen Gaming Blog: 10/10 - Very few games have the power to engage you on both a gameplay and narrative level, yet The Last of Us does both with ease. There are several moments that will stay with you long after the credits roll. It's that damn powerful. Not only does it breath new life into a genre, it redefines it and sets the benchmark. Put the fact that it's a game to one side, The Last of Us is just an incredible piece of entertainment and another masterpiece from Naughty Dog.
ShopTo: No score - Naughty Dog's The Last of Us is a work of art, a classic waiting to be played. Make sure you don't miss out because this game will be talked about for a long time to come.
God is a Geek: 10/10 - The Last of Us is astonishingly beautiful and utterly compelling in every way. Ellie and Joel are fantastic characters, and few other games can produce such edge of the seat moments whilst maintaining the level of near silence that this does.
Polygon: 7.5 - There are hints of a nuanced message in The Last of Us, but convention wins out too often to easily find them. Naughty Dog commits to a somber tone that affects every piece of the game for better and worse. It achieves incredible emotional high points about as often as it bumps up against tired scenario design that doesn't fit its world. Survival in the post-apocalypse requires compromise, but The Last of Us has given up something vital.
TheSixthAxis: 10/10 - The Last Of Us offers an engrossing, impressively robust storyline and a set of characters that'll remain with the player long after the credits flash by.
IGN: 10 - Its unrivaled presentation in particular sets the bar even higher than the Uncharted trilogy already did, and its writing, voice acting and layered gameplay combine to create what is very easily the game to beat for Game of the Year 2013.
GameSpot: 8.0 - One unforgettable character proves humanity is worth saving in the bleak and brutal The Last of Us.
Forbes: 9.5 - The Last of Us shows us a side of Naughty Dog we may not have realized was there. They've made good looking games before, but not like this. We've enjoyed their characters before, but none were this deep. Their games were always fun to play, but this is a combat system that's truly refreshing in many ways. It's great to see that perhaps the last memorable PS3 exclusive didn't need to be a God of War or Uncharted, but rather something entirely new. Go out and experience it for yourself.
Eurogamer: 10 - At a time when blockbuster action games are sinking into a mire of desperate overproduction, shallow gameplay and broken narrative logic, The Last of Us is a deeply impressive demonstration of how it can and should be done. It starts out safe but ends brave; it has heart and grit, and it hangs together beautifully. And it's a real video game, too. An elegy for a dying world, The Last of Us is also a beacon of hope for its genre.
Kotaku: Yes - Art isn't so much about the what as it is about the how. And The Last of Us, from its overfamiliar beginning to its shocking ending, reflects the courage of its makers' convictions. It is a terrific feat of storytelling, design, art direction and performance. As it turns out, good things still reside within the house of cliché.
ShackNews: No score - When it stays true to its vision, The Last of Us is a masterful, suspenseful, and beautiful experience that weaves together a compelling narrative with thoughtful gameplay. While it occasionally falters, Naughty Dog proves that they can breathe new life into the third-person cover shooter.
Now Gamer: 8.5 - A brilliant and evocative story, superb combat mechanics and an interesting multiplayer component, The Last Of Us is one of this generation's best.
VideoGamer: 10 - The Last of Us isn't just the PlayStation 3's swan song; it's the best exclusive on the console full stop.
Digital Spy: 5/5 - With a hauntingly beautiful game world, stunning visuals, and a wide variety of ways in which players can approach combat, The Last of Us is another exceptional game from the team at Naughty Dog.
GamingBolt: 10 - Naughty Dog's last PlayStation 3 game is discernibly the greatest offering of the current generation. The story touches the player's heart and most importantly makes you feel wanted. You will grow to care about the characters and bind in with their emotions. The Last of Us is a sign of the video games industry coming to age.
GiantBomb: 5/5 - The Last of Us is not simply Uncharted with zombies, but it couldn't exist without Naughty Dog having made Uncharted first, either. It's a dark adventure, one rarely filled with laughs or joy. There are bitter pills to swallow along the way, and nothing is taken for granted, not even characters. People live, people die. Sometimes it's fair, sometimes it's not. It's still a zombie game, but a sobering one. Take a deep breath.
GameInformer: 9.50 - The Last of Us is a deeply felt, shockingly violent game that questions what we're willing to sacrifice and, more disturbingly, what we're willing to do so save the ones we love. The conclusion offers no easy answers. You won't forget it.
CVG: 10 - The Last of Us is a remarkable achievement, and one of those rare games that you never want to end as you approach the finale. It tells a moving story that will linger in your mind long after the credits have rolled, but never loses sight of the fact that it's a video game, not a film. It's a masterful marriage of storytelling and game design, and easily Naughty Dog's finest moment.
Official PlayStation Magazine UK: 10 - A work of art in which amazing sights and sounds fuel an emotionally draining, constantly compelling end of days adventure. This is Naughty Dog pushing PS3 to its absolute limit. Over to you, PS4.
Edge: 10 - Naughty Dog has delivered the most riveting, emotionally resonant story-driven epic of this console generation. At times it's easy to feel like big-budget development has too much on the line to allow stubbornly artful ideas to flourish, but then a game like The Last Of Us emerges through the crumbled blacktop like a climbing vine, green as a burnished emerald.
SFX: 5/5 - "Sometimes, you just have to cut to the chase: The Last Of Us is the pinnacle of traditional narrative storytelling in any interactive medium, and one of the finest games ever made."
Next Gen Gaming Blog: 10/10 - Very few games have the power to engage you on both a gameplay and narrative level, yet The Last of Us does both with ease. There are several moments that will stay with you long after the credits roll. It's that damn powerful. Not only does it breath new life into a genre, it redefines it and sets the benchmark. Put the fact that it's a game to one side, The Last of Us is just an incredible piece of entertainment and another masterpiece from Naughty Dog.
ShopTo: No score - Naughty Dog's The Last of Us is a work of art, a classic waiting to be played. Make sure you don't miss out because this game will be talked about for a long time to come.
God is a Geek: 10/10 - The Last of Us is astonishingly beautiful and utterly compelling in every way. Ellie and Joel are fantastic characters, and few other games can produce such edge of the seat moments whilst maintaining the level of near silence that this does.
Polygon: 7.5 - There are hints of a nuanced message in The Last of Us, but convention wins out too often to easily find them. Naughty Dog commits to a somber tone that affects every piece of the game for better and worse. It achieves incredible emotional high points about as often as it bumps up against tired scenario design that doesn't fit its world. Survival in the post-apocalypse requires compromise, but The Last of Us has given up something vital.
TheSixthAxis: 10/10 - The Last Of Us offers an engrossing, impressively robust storyline and a set of characters that'll remain with the player long after the credits flash by.
IGN: 10 - Its unrivaled presentation in particular sets the bar even higher than the Uncharted trilogy already did, and its writing, voice acting and layered gameplay combine to create what is very easily the game to beat for Game of the Year 2013.
GameSpot: 8.0 - One unforgettable character proves humanity is worth saving in the bleak and brutal The Last of Us.
Forbes: 9.5 - The Last of Us shows us a side of Naughty Dog we may not have realized was there. They've made good looking games before, but not like this. We've enjoyed their characters before, but none were this deep. Their games were always fun to play, but this is a combat system that's truly refreshing in many ways. It's great to see that perhaps the last memorable PS3 exclusive didn't need to be a God of War or Uncharted, but rather something entirely new. Go out and experience it for yourself.
Eurogamer: 10 - At a time when blockbuster action games are sinking into a mire of desperate overproduction, shallow gameplay and broken narrative logic, The Last of Us is a deeply impressive demonstration of how it can and should be done. It starts out safe but ends brave; it has heart and grit, and it hangs together beautifully. And it's a real video game, too. An elegy for a dying world, The Last of Us is also a beacon of hope for its genre.
Kotaku: Yes - Art isn't so much about the what as it is about the how. And The Last of Us, from its overfamiliar beginning to its shocking ending, reflects the courage of its makers' convictions. It is a terrific feat of storytelling, design, art direction and performance. As it turns out, good things still reside within the house of cliché.
ShackNews: No score - When it stays true to its vision, The Last of Us is a masterful, suspenseful, and beautiful experience that weaves together a compelling narrative with thoughtful gameplay. While it occasionally falters, Naughty Dog proves that they can breathe new life into the third-person cover shooter.
Now Gamer: 8.5 - A brilliant and evocative story, superb combat mechanics and an interesting multiplayer component, The Last Of Us is one of this generation's best.
VideoGamer: 10 - The Last of Us isn't just the PlayStation 3's swan song; it's the best exclusive on the console full stop.
Digital Spy: 5/5 - With a hauntingly beautiful game world, stunning visuals, and a wide variety of ways in which players can approach combat, The Last of Us is another exceptional game from the team at Naughty Dog.
GamingBolt: 10 - Naughty Dog's last PlayStation 3 game is discernibly the greatest offering of the current generation. The story touches the player's heart and most importantly makes you feel wanted. You will grow to care about the characters and bind in with their emotions. The Last of Us is a sign of the video games industry coming to age.
GiantBomb: 5/5 - The Last of Us is not simply Uncharted with zombies, but it couldn't exist without Naughty Dog having made Uncharted first, either. It's a dark adventure, one rarely filled with laughs or joy. There are bitter pills to swallow along the way, and nothing is taken for granted, not even characters. People live, people die. Sometimes it's fair, sometimes it's not. It's still a zombie game, but a sobering one. Take a deep breath.
GameInformer: 9.50 - The Last of Us is a deeply felt, shockingly violent game that questions what we're willing to sacrifice and, more disturbingly, what we're willing to do so save the ones we love. The conclusion offers no easy answers. You won't forget it.
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Game sounds fantastic and I owe it to myself to play it which I will do eventually.
It won't be a 10/10 game for me due to lack of replay value. Not a fault of the game itself, it is, what it is, an offline single player experience. The multi won't interest me in this, the meat of the game is the campaign.
Replay is the hardest to nail in games, so I won't hold that against it. Sounds brilliant for a play through though. I must put this on my ignore list and avoid spoilers totally.
It won't be a 10/10 game for me due to lack of replay value. Not a fault of the game itself, it is, what it is, an offline single player experience. The multi won't interest me in this, the meat of the game is the campaign.
Replay is the hardest to nail in games, so I won't hold that against it. Sounds brilliant for a play through though. I must put this on my ignore list and avoid spoilers totally.
Really looking forward to this one, haven't really touched my ps3 for months so this is sounding like a great way to get back on gaming, haven't had this much hype for a game since GT5 and apart from a couple of reviews i have stopped myself from seeing or reading anything about it.
I will buy this day one but will wait until we have a week of bad weather (pretty soon i guess in the UK) and i will lock myself in and play it through till the end.
Hopefully it will give off the feel of an old resident evil game, making your way through a derelict city trying to survive with restricted ammo.
I will buy this day one but will wait until we have a week of bad weather (pretty soon i guess in the UK) and i will lock myself in and play it through till the end.
Hopefully it will give off the feel of an old resident evil game, making your way through a derelict city trying to survive with restricted ammo.
chromatic9
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Very impressive, I expected ND to produce a very good game but not with such great praise.
What I get from the media I've seen is a tense feeling and careful involvment with the player. Walking Dead game gave me this too, so maybe struck a chord with the jaded reviewers as not many games do or try.
What I get from the media I've seen is a tense feeling and careful involvment with the player. Walking Dead game gave me this too, so maybe struck a chord with the jaded reviewers as not many games do or try.
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gtone339Joke - Kaz said this on twitter
Impressed with the reviews so far, except for Gamespot.
That's hilarious, that's not really him though is it?
No, it's a parody account.
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One of the only opinions I care about on the web. He gave it a 5/5. Sessler rarely does that, especially nowadays.
chromatic9
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Joke - Kaz said this on twitter
Impressed with the reviews so far, except for Gamespot.
Note: just a fan-made twitter acc of Kaz Hirai.
Thanks for the laughs gents!
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Man that gif is cracking me up bro
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And that's exactly what's wrong with game reviews today.
Game reviewers put too much of their personal taste into it. And no, that's not how it should be. Most of the people who review games are obviously hardcore gamers. The type of people interested in the game, or just the average gamer will have a different point of view, and most reviewers are misrepresenting games by doing it from strictly their point of view.
Having an RPG person review a linear third person shooter is a guaranteed fail. That type of gamer doesn't represent the type of people interested in the game, and the review therefore will misrepresent the game as well.
Why not have someone who actually likes this type of game do the reveiw? Or why not have someone who's open minded and less biased do it?
The problem with the low scores is the person who reviewed it, not the game itself. For the same reason I should never review Skyrim (I hate the gameplay and find it incredibly boring), these idiots shouldn't be reviewing the Last of Us. The same thing happened with GT5, they had people reviewing GT5 that were more into playing burnout than they were into Gran Turismo.
They forget that gaming is a community, and not some individual nerd that thinks games being linear is a bad thing, it isn't.
Whoever gave the Last of Us a bad review is probably someone who does reviews as a job and not someone who actually wanted to play it. There's the problem
Jawehawk
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Wow. It's amazing that people continue to shoot down reviews of a game they have yet to play... It's impossible to not be subjective when reviewing something. And just because you don't agree with a review, doesn't make the review bad. What makes a review bad, is if the reviewer has failed to properly justify his score, or has left out important information about the game.
If you had to like the game you were reviewing, in order to review it, we'd never see any bad scores. How the hell does that help anyone?
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Those were opinions on reviews in general, doesn't matter whether I've played it or not, everything I said applies to all reviews. And judging by the complaints in the few bad reviews, I was right on the money. It wouldn't be the first time the wrong person reviewed a game they aren't even interested in. It's easy to see why.
And it's definitely possible to be objective and unbiased, but if a reviewer can't do that, they shouldn't be reviewing it, simple as that.
There are reviewers that not only unbiased, but they do reviews from the right point of view. Only one I know of is Mark from Classic Game Room, but he doesn't give scores.
Scores is another thing I really don't like about game or movie reviews because it has the tendency to enrage people. If you liked movie A a lot better than movie B, when movie B has a higher score it will piss you off, as it should. I just don't think something completely based on opinion should be given a numerical value like that. That's why I'm against metacritic.
Honestly the only good way to do scoring for a game is to only do scoring for each category, because each category is more or less important depending on the genre or the player, and overall scores can also be very misleading.
"If you had to like the game you were reviewing, in order to review it, we'd never see any bad scores. How the hell does that help anyone?
This is a hilarious thing to ask. I never said like, you must mean interested. So basically you're asking why someone who reviews a game should be interested in the game? Seriously?
Do you play games that you have no interest in? Do you buy games that you're not interested in? Do you watch reviews of games you're not interested in? Then why would you review a game you're not interested? Why would you review a game in a genre that you don't usually enjoy?
Reviews shouldn't be based on the opinion a bunch of jaded, hardcore gamers that don't like the games their playing in the first place. That's what most of the people working for these websites are. They're either hardcore gamer/journalists, or people that are assigned to do reviews as part of their job. meaning they may or may not have any interest in the game they're reviewing, and it shows in the ridiculously low scores that get handed out occasionally.
Nobody plays games that they have no interest in, and because of that a review like that is completely misrepresentative of the game itself.
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If someone wants to download this game from psn then this information might be be useful
Game weighs 33 gigabytes, so for slow INTERNET connection this will be a long download. Ill rather buy cheaper disc version. PSN is always overpriced. 👎
Game weighs 33 gigabytes, so for slow INTERNET connection this will be a long download. Ill rather buy cheaper disc version. PSN is always overpriced. 👎
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The mandate should be to review the game, not the experience of the game. If a reviewer is going through a bitter divorce at the time of playing, it could most certainly colour the experience, for example. That is obviously not the developers fault, and a professional would be able to be discerning. We used to have properly trained people doing this stuff, people that were taught to make a distinction between work and personal feelings. We have long since lost the privileges of such proper journalism as staples, sadly.
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I kind of agree with you there TomBrady. Ask me to review a Metallica album, and, and, I don't even know where to start. 
Probably give it a 0/10 because I'm not into that kind of music. I'm just not the right person to review it, simple as that.
No offense to Metallic fans.
Anyways, EDGE gave it a perfect score, that's all the opinion I need.
Probably give it a 0/10 because I'm not into that kind of music. I'm just not the right person to review it, simple as that.No offense to Metallic fans.
Anyways, EDGE gave it a perfect score, that's all the opinion I need.
Jawehawk
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Well written words.
What if a reviewer was excited for a game, but after having played through the game, was massively dissapointed? Should he then not be able to review the game, and express how it didn't meet his expectations? You simply can't have a site with only positive reviews. As for the reviewers being uninterested in the games that they are reviewing, I don't believe this to be the case. Or rather, at least not most of the time.
You have to remember that the ones working at IGN or Gamespot or whatever, do it as a job. So occasionally, they might get a game handed to them that they aren't that interested in. Essentially, this would make them far more objective about the game, than someone who wants to play the game, and as such, would have expectations.
Let me give an example of people being mad about a game review. When RE6 got a faily bad score on Gamespot, a sizeable amount of people got mad because they felt the game was good. The reviewer clearly didn't think so (and I happen to agree with him), as the game completely failed at being a Survival Horror game, and was filled with cheesy dialogue and bad story. Not to mention tons of QTE's. The game was genuinely bad, and if someone disagreed with that, they have every right to go and make their own review. Most review sites even support this as an actual feature on their website.
And again, i really don't think a 100 % objective review is possible. Not unless you only talk about features, and not whether or not the game and its features are actually good or not. And only allowing people who like the game that they're reviewing, is in it self a a very subjective thing to do.
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Subjectivity is loaded, which is why objectivity should be the aim.
Indeed, I agree.
Which is why they should strive for professionality and be objective, I agree.
If it's a job and they take their job seriously, then objectivity is very possible.
Of course a reviewer can play a game after expecting it to be brilliant but find that it lacks in certain areas - it is their job though, as you say to review it. Objectivity is a tool like any in the debating/reviewing circles and should be used.
Whilst I know a fair amount about games and know how to get what info is needed in any area that I am sure of, I would never submit any serious review as I'm too un-focused to do the job properly - mostly because I'm not interested in the process of writing a review. Someone who is getting paid to do this, should really be doing this correctly.
And regarding the original points which started this debate. I have seen at least three articles linking corrupt reviewers, some named to skewed game reviews.
