{PS4} Intrested in racing ? now looking for Drivers

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Hey all . This thread is to see if anyone is interested in joining an up coming championship.

As some of us went to different sims ment that we didn't buy AC first time round ,with the price drop now we have ;) so there will be some keen to give it a try !

Leave a 'hello' below if you would like to be informed of the details to be on the grid ..
 
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Hey all . This thread is to see if anyone is interested in joining an up coming championship.

As some of us went to different sims ment that we didn't buy AC first time round ,with the price drop now we have ;) so there will be some keen to give it a try !

Leave a 'hello' below if you would like to be informed of the details to be on the grid ..
If you will have me and the schedule is doable, I'll join.
 
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You probably want to exclude me from this group because I am terrible.

I take the GT3 class to Spa. Obviously, I know this track extremely well, like many of you. I don't expect to win or even get a podium but what happened to me 3 races in a row I did not expect.

On the first straight going uphill I'm passed by just about everybody and I'm only playing on medium difficulty with 40% aggression.

Over the course of a full race I expect to be overtaken here and there by most of the AI. But, I definitely don't expect it on the very first straightaway.

I mean, it doesn't take any skill to drive straight, right? Ugh. Very frustrated
 

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My first impression is that game is no good (compared PC2, PC3 and GTS), as it's kind of old (as you can see on graphics), odd to drive (car handling), car setups are odd, and so on. Lot to learn as it's new game to me and I don't know if I have time to put learn more about it. We'll see.
But I will try to play it little bit more to see if there's anything that I like.
If this series start I might then try couple of races to see how it works...
 
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My first impression is that game is no good (compared PC2, PC3 and GTS), as it's kind of old (as you can see on graphics), odd to drive (car handling), car setups are odd, and so on. Lot to learn as it's new game to me and I don't know if I have time to put learn more about it. We'll see.
But I will try to play it little bit more to see if there's anything that I like.
If this series start I might then try couple of races to see how it works...

Setups are indeed a nightmare and I've completely given up on even trying. I am a student of the @Sick Cylinder Racing Academy where he teaches that the default setups are just fine:cheers:

It does feel a little old-ish when you compare it to the more recent games and I'm not super happy with the view on track but maybe I have to do some tinkering there.

However, where this game shines brightly is the actual handling. It feels fantastic and I enjoy playing it better than I do ACC on my PS4 Pro.

I would love to hear what your thoughts are after you give it a few hours

EDIT: would you guys take the Audi LMS to spa and do a same class race and see if you can prevent all the other GT3 cars from passing you on the straight away?
 
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You probably want to exclude me from this group because I am terrible.

Start with the settings at very easy, with just a few cars and yourself in 3rd or 5th position - stick with one car and track and build up the setting gradually until you get to hard and very hard.


My first impression is that game is no good (compared PC2, PC3 and GTS), as it's kind of old (as you can see on graphics).

This was also my first impression, but now I love the game - or at least I love a handful of cars in the game. The physics are more accurate than other games (reputedly) and the FFB with a wheel is very good. Track accuracy is better and the FFB gives a better sense of bumps and higher immersion. Graphics are not this games strong point - the rear view mirror is essential, but the view is terrible with following cars floating above the track. Some fictional tracks (Black Cat) are dreadful and should be avoided, but there are some good tracks including ones not featured in other games.

We will be using the standout cars from this game, which are not available in other games - the best of these is the Maserati 250F front engine F1 car in straight 6 and V12 form. From my extensive (i.e. obsessive) reading, this car behaves in a realistic way with off throttle understeer and on throttle oversteer. It is incredibly satisfying to drive and very rewarding when you find yourself getting faster and developing a rhythm with the car - high speed, medium speed and low speed corners each require different techniques.

The plan is just to use the default setups and for series with the 250F to use tracks without kerbs - this car pre-dates kerbed circuits and it is incredibly immersive racing it on realistic tracks such as historic Monza and Silverstone and the Highlands road layouts.

I find it ok switching between GTS and AC, but not so easy to switch between AC and PC2 - once used to AC (which reputedly has the better, more accurate physics) PC2 may feel odd. I find GTS feels lifeless and flat compared to both AC and PC2.

I am hoping to run a few test races before Christmas - probably with the Alfa GTA.

I am also hoping to run series for the Ferrari 250 GTO, Shelby Cobra and Alfa Romeo GTA and possibly the Ford GT40 and Porsche 908
 
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Setups are indeed a nightmare and I've completely given up on even trying. I am a student of the @Sick Cylinder Racing Academy where he teaches that the default setups are just fine:cheers:

EDIT: would you guys take the Audi LMS to spa and do a same class race and see if you can prevent all the other GT3 cars from passing you on the straight away?

Sean - I think that type of car is much too fast to use as a beginner to a game. The best cars to start with are the slowest ones - start with the Alfa GTA and / or the Ford Escort RS1600.

I had put many hours into the Maserati 250F then tried a faster car with closed cockpit and frankly it was terrifying! - (Ford GT40 at Highlands Long) - this is a good thing! - there is a very real difference between each car - even more so than PC2.

Not being passed on the straights is down to how much speed you can carry through the second half of the corner. Practise with the 250F - as this has no downforce and very little grip - this effect will be more pronounced. It is vital to remember the Mantra "slow in fast out" with AC - even more so than with PC2.
 
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Great @Sick Cylinder i agree with you , it took some time to get the speed right it feels slower than the others but drives nice ..
will be good to get some equal competition going , so far have found online hit and miss with ramming and guys that are tuned to track .

Double posting is a sin.... lmao
 
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Great @Sick Cylinder i agree with you , it took some time to get the speed right it feels slower than the others but drives nice ..
will be good to get some equal competition going , so far have found online hit and miss with ramming and guys that are tuned to track .

Double posting is a sin.... lmao

Yes - feels fast enough to be scary with some cars, because bumps and tracks feel more realistic. At first I used to notice the poor graphics of the trackside hoardings and rear view mirror, but now I'm too busy enjoying the drive!
 
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:scared:@Sick Cylinder I'm about to leisurely drive the Maserati at Highlands.

TC and ABS?

EDIT: If you're scheduling this car on this track for the 1st race then might I suggest that you postpone that race until after the Holidays, because this car is not easy to control, even in a straight line!:scared:
 
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:scared:@Sick Cylinder I'm about to leisurely drive the Maserati at Highlands.

TC and ABS?

EDIT: If you're scheduling this car on this track for the 1st race then might I suggest that you postpone that race until after the Holidays, because this car is not easy to control, even in a straight line!:scared:

Sean - no TC or ABS. Seasons will start January 2021. Test races with an easier car before Christmas.
 
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My first impression is that game is no good (compared PC2, PC3 and GTS), as it's kind of old (as you can see on graphics), odd to drive (car handling), car setups are odd, and so on. Lot to learn as it's new game to me and I don't know if I have time to put learn more about it. We'll see.
But I will try to play it little bit more to see if there's anything that I like.
If this series start I might then try couple of races to see how it works...

It's fascinating the different way people to respond to different racing games. I think a lot of it has to do with what you are accustomed to.

I am currently switching between GTS, PCars2 & AC (on the PS4). I have a lot more time in AC. GTS is just very disappointing. In the old, familiar mould, the game is beautiful to look at, has a sophisticated & elegant interface, graphics are fantastic - especially replays - but physics are not convincing & the FFB really bland. And let's just not talk about the AI! :indiff:

PCars2 has taken me a lot of time to adjust to. The physics & FFB seem pretty detailed & challenging, but very "quirky". The AI is very good. The depth of content is pretty amazing & so are the TOD & weather options.

AC's physics & FFB are in a class of their own. Detailed, intuitive & impressively visceral. The cars sounds are also very impressive - they make GTS & PCars2 seem very contrived in comparison. This makes more of a difference than you might think to the driving experience. AI is pretty good - it provides you with a challenging race, even if the interaction with the AI cars is not quite as complex as in PCars2. Graphics are nice IMO - not nearly as "realistic" as GTSport & without all the options that PCars2 offers. However, AC is crisp & clear which makes the driving experience perfectly fine. The depth of content is lacking, no dynamic weather or TOD & the menus, replays & career mode are pretty primitive. However, overall the driving experience is far superior to GTSport or PCars2.
 
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Hey all . This thread is to see if anyone is interested in joining an up coming championship.

As some of us went to different sims ment that we didn't buy AC first time round ,with the price drop now we have ;) so there will be some keen to give it a try !

Leave a 'hello' below if you would like to be informed of the details to be on the grid ..
Hello!
 
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I'd love to join but the time difference makes it impossible for me.
There was a lot to agree with in this thread about the driving experience. I love it
If I can add a car to your list... the Alpha 33 Stradale possibly the greatest drive in any racing game..... ever :)
 

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After all this current flurry of activity that @Sick Cylinder has created I decided to reinstall AC and give it another go.

It's fascinating the different way people to respond to different racing games.
It really is because I'm still not keen. :)

I think maybe I'm so attuned to PC2's handling and FFB model that to become used to AC I'd have to spend a lot of time with it. Initially I've found the overall experience a bit lacklustre in comparison. I'm not sure about better physics because I'm not able to get a good sensation through the wheel. It just all feels a bit vague. Although some cars are better than others. In my brief go I quite liked the Alfa Romeo 155 Ti V6 and the Lotus Exige V6 Cup.

this car (250f) is not easy to control, even in a straight line!
I found this too. Very little feel in the centre of the wheel then lots of feedback on either side - which causes the straight line wiggles.

So, at the moment at least, I'll pass on an AC series.


the Alpha 33 Stradale possibly the greatest drive in any racing game.
I must give that a go then. It might change my mind. ;)
 
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It really is because I'm still not keen. :)

I think maybe I'm so attuned to PC2's handling and FFB model that to become used to AC I'd have to spend a lot of time with it. Initially I've found the overall experience a bit lacklustre in comparison. I'm not sure about better physics because I'm not able to get a good sensation through the wheel. It just all feels a bit vague. Although some cars are better than others. In my brief go I quite liked the Alfa Romeo 155 Ti V6 and the Lotus Exige V6 Cup.

I am convinced that people simply become attuned to the sim they're most used to & find it difficult to adjust to a new sim that feels significantly different. Back in the day I found Ferrari Challenge more enjoyable than GT5. The FFB & physics were more visceral & descriptive, so even though it didn't look nearly as good as GT5, I found it more interesting. Most GT fans found that to be an outrageous suggestion. Same with GTSport vs. PCars2. I notice that I have "friends" on the PS network who never seem to to do anything other than drive in GTSport. FWIW, the consensus among "serious" sim racers is pretty uniform that AC has superior physics & FFB compared to PCars2. PCars2 is an impressive achievement though IMO.

Yes the Stradale's a really nice car to drive. But there are a number of really nice cars in AC. 👍
 
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I find that no matter what came I play I always come back to project cars 2 because I'm used to it having played it for 3 years. I'm still bad at it but I love it and it's the most feature Rich option available console game across all consoles. I don't like to make definitive statements but there's no way to disagree with that one

So,@IfAndOr, I completely understand why you said what you did but I find the counterpart cars in AC to be more planted than the ones in PC2.

But everything else is a little bit hollow for me because I miss the engineer even if he says the same things over and over I just like having him. It gives you more of a flavor of really being part of a race weekend.
 
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It's fascinating the different way people to respond to different racing games. I think a lot of it has to do with what you are accustomed to.

I am currently switching between GTS, PCars2 & AC (on the PS4). I have a lot more time in AC. GTS is just very disappointing. In the old, familiar mould, the game is beautiful to look at, has a sophisticated & elegant interface, graphics are fantastic - especially replays - but physics are not convincing & the FFB really bland. And let's just not talk about the AI! :indiff:

PCars2 has taken me a lot of time to adjust to. The physics & FFB seem pretty detailed & challenging, but very "quirky". The AI is very good. The depth of content is pretty amazing & so are the TOD & weather options.

AC's physics & FFB are in a class of their own. Detailed, intuitive & impressively visceral. The cars sounds are also very impressive - they make GTS & PCars2 seem very contrived in comparison. This makes more of a difference than you might think to the driving experience. AI is pretty good - it provides you with a challenging race, even if the interaction with the AI cars is not quite as complex as in PCars2. Graphics are nice IMO - not nearly as "realistic" as GTSport & without all the options that PCars2 offers. However, AC is crisp & clear which makes the driving experience perfectly fine. The depth of content is lacking, no dynamic weather or TOD & the menus, replays & career mode are pretty primitive. However, overall the driving experience is far superior to GTSport or PCars2.
I spent 2 hours today driving the 250F around Monza, Spa, and Zandvoort...both practice alone and the 'quick race' mode against medium AI. I must agree here with Biggles: the physics and FFB are incredible compared to any other game. In the cockpit view, I was amazed at the FFB causing my wheel to vibrate, shake, basically emulate every tiny movement of the cockpit view wheel, also forcefully enough it almost wrenched the wheel out my hands! I fear if I leave my usual settings on my wheel, it will break driving this car. Everything from the tire squeal and smoke when you over brake, to the exhaust popping guttural sounds, is incredibly realistic. I don't like that I cannot use my shifter in this game, and the paddle shifting feels too light, unrealistic. But this car with no aids turned on is very exciting once you get the feel of it...but heaven help you if you get a wheel off into the grass or gravel! Grabs your car and sends you on a ride like no other game I've driven....and
I have spent a lot of time driving on grass and gravel, believe me!
The strangest thing I noticed was the 'cardboard cutouts' that act as spectators....look so much like the ridiculous 'fake fans' they used in our short Covid baseball season this year to make stadiums look like there was a crowd...jeez utterly absurd!
 
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I spent 2 hours today driving the 250F around Monza, Spa, and Zandvoort...both practice alone and the 'quick race' mode against medium AI. I must agree here with Biggles: the physics and FFB are incredible compared to any other game. In the cockpit view, I was amazed at the FFB causing my wheel to vibrate, shake, basically emulate every tiny movement of the cockpit view wheel, also forcefully enough it almost wrenched the wheel out my hands! I fear if I leave my usual settings on my wheel, it will break driving this car. Everything from the tire squeal and smoke when you over brake, to the exhaust popping guttural sounds, is incredibly realistic. I don't like that I cannot use my shifter in this game, and the paddle shifting feels too light, unrealistic. But this car with no aids turned on is very exciting once you get the feel of it...but heaven help you if you get a wheel off into the grass or gravel! Grabs your car and sends you on a ride like no other game I've driven....and
I have spent a lot of time driving on grass and gravel, believe me!
The strangest thing I noticed was the 'cardboard cutouts' that act as spectators....look so much like the ridiculous 'fake fans' they used in our short Covid baseball season this year to make stadiums look like there was a crowd...jeez utterly absurd!

Why can't you use your shifter? Note that you need to have the shifter plugged into the correct USB port before you start the PS4. You can't switch from anther game to AC without restarting the PS4. I don't know why this is - it caused me a lot of confusion & frustration until I figured it out.

The other thing about AC is it requires you to throttle up in order to downshift successfully in the manual cars. This adds a whole level of challenge to the driving. In all the GT games you can slam your way through the gears with no consideration to the engine revs. AC requires much more precise shifting & it emulates the difference in shifting between the different cars ... so an older car, like the Ferrari F40 or the RUF Yellowbird require you to shift more slowly, moving the gear shifter into neutral before moving to the next gear. If you mistime it the car won't shift & the gears grind mercilessly. PCars2 does not do this, although it does engine brake unpleasantly if you don't adjust the revs as you **** down.
 

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I find the counterpart cars in AC to be more planted than the ones in PC2.
I might give that a try, a direct comparison instead of just picking random cars. Although that is quite difficult since PC2's "feel" is so reliant on track conditions (date, time and weather), there's not a optimum track setting like AC defaults to. Grip can alter considerably.

I was amazed at the FFB causing my wheel to vibrate, shake,
Now you see that on my wheel, a G29, that causes the gears to chatter - which i find annoying. To prevent that I have to turn most of the settings down or off. So I'm probably not getting the full (or the same) experience.

I shall experiment further this afternoon. :)
 
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Why can't you use your shifter? Note that you need to have the shifter plugged into the correct USB port before you start the PS4. You can't switch from anther game to AC without restarting the PS4. I don't know why this is - it caused me a lot of confusion & frustration until I figured it out.

The other thing about AC is it requires you to throttle up in order to downshift successfully in the manual cars. This adds a whole level of challenge to the driving. In all the GT games you can slam your way through the gears with no consideration to the engine revs. AC requires much more precise shifting & it emulates the difference in shifting between the different cars ... so an older car, like the Ferrari F40 or the RUF Yellowbird require you to shift more slowly, moving the gear shifter into neutral before moving to the next gear. If you mistime it the car won't shift & the gears grind mercilessly. PCars2 does not do this, although it does engine brake unpleasantly if you don't adjust the revs as you **** down.
Ahh... ok, thanks. I will try that and hopefully it will work for me!✌