Note the upper left corner. 208 online lobbies. I've never seen more than 20-30 on PS4. Usually with only a handful or so with more than 5 cars in them. This might have a lot to do with why PC players seem content and fail to understand the issues that seem so important to console players. With such a tiny player base by comparison, finding a clean room in the console lobby, especially now SMS removed the last defense against trolls by nixing host kick options, is getting close to impossible. Anyone trying to delude themselves that all is good on the console side needs to see this. The player base is available, GTS and Forza sport numbers that dwarf this. But SMS don't want to go after them (or at least their every decision on how to design their online multiplayer system has worked actively against it). Perhaps if more of us understood the huge gap between the console players and the PC ones, we might at last understand how important it is to make the transition from GT or Forza to PC more console friendly..? BTW, note the room names.