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Hi there new to this stuff ! .just bought gt3 rs v2 and wondering if this will work on ps4 as a friend of mine tried to order wheel set and fanatec replied that there waiting for the specs of ps4 before sending out wheel incase adjustments are to be made .i am wondering if it will be a firmware update or something else as I can find no info .any help !!!!
 
Common sense tells that Sony should keep the compatibility for existing PS3 wheels. Though there's nothing that they will say to us more than they say to the big companies.
 
Fanatec is just hijacking the vendor and product ID of the G25 and G27 (depending on wheel) so I don't know why it would change. (Fanatec wheel presents itself to the console as a Logitech wheel) That is unless the the PS4 won't support the G25 and G27 wheels... That I don't know, but I'd be very surprised if it didn't.
 
Well,

I'd like to help you out here, not least as I'm currently tippy toeing around the idea of spending 800 odd Euro on a new wheel/pedal set up, an investment I'd like to see last way more than just a few months.

So, basically, the brouhaha that would be stirred up should Sony decide to kill off current peripherals by using a new proprietary mechanism is barely worth thinking about. It would be somewhat worse than very bad indeed.

I'll quickly get to the nitty gritty. From the images of the controller (microUSB port) and spec sheets that have been shown by Sony of the PS4, it's a virtual certainty that there'll be backward compatibility for USB'd devices.

Two distinct reasons for saying this are; USB3 being mentioned as socket of choice, remembering that USB2 works as it should in a USB3 port.

Secondly, running on an X86 architecture should alleviate any remaining issues for anyone who currently has a configuration that's PS3/PC compliant.

I'm as confident as is clinically allowed to say that there is almost no reason to think that there'd be a problem with the PS4 and current PS3/PC compatible wheel/pedal combinations.

I'm a bit confused as to why Fanatec would be faffing around waiting for confirmation of the PS4 spec sheet, seeing as how it has been released...

Hope this helps. 👍
 
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Well,

I'd like to help you out here, not least as I'm currently tippy toeing around the idea of spending 800 odd Euro on a new wheel/pedal set up, an investment I'd like to see last way more than just a few months.

So, basically, the brouhaha that would be stirred up should Sony decide to kill off current peripherals by using a new proprietary mechanism is barely worth thinking about. It would be somewhat worse than very bad indeed.

I'll quickly get to the nitty gritty. From the images of the controller (microUSB port) and spec sheets that have been shown by Sony of the PS4, it's a virtual certainty that there'll be backward compatibility for USB'd devices.

Two distinct reasons for saying this are; USB3 being mentioned as socket of choice, remembering that USB2 works as it should in a USB3 port.

Secondly, running on an X86 architecture should alleviate any remaining issues for anyone who currently has a configuration that's PS3/PC compliant.

I'm as confident as is clinically allowed to say that there is almost no reason to think that there'd be a problem with the PS4 and current PS3/PC compatible wheel/pedal combinations.

I'm a bit confused as to why Fanatec would be faffing around waiting for confirmation of the PS4 spec sheet, seeing as how it has been released...

Hope this helps. 👍

Sorry, but none of this actually matters; all that matters is whether or not the PS4 supports the HID protocol, the reason most PC peripherals at least sort of work on the PS3 is because it supports HID devices, the 360 on the other hand only supports XID, this (I assume) is so that Microsoft can control who makes control devices for the 360, or at least makes it more difficult to get third party controllers. HID-compatible devices are extremely common, after all.

That the PS4 still uses USB and is now x86 is irrelevant, though obviously the USB ports do help... But the key is the implementation of HID.

Sony have said that the DualShock 3 is not supported by the PS4, but that's not the same as the DS3 being incompatible with it; it could be that the PS4 will detect the DS3 and some or all of the buttons will work, but because the DS3 doesn't have a track pad or share button, the official line that they're not supported makes sense. 'Support' would mean designing games so that the track pad is optional or having an alternative to the share button, and they just won't bother with that. I might be remembering it wrong, though, they might have specifically said the DS3 is incompatible, and that's a little more troubling but still not concrete proof either way.

In summary, I think the PS4 will support HID but it's not a sure thing. And that's most likely what Fanatec are waiting on.
 
An excellent retort!

I take your point completely, and was close to 100% agreement until I had a quick peek at some USB/HID info, as I didn't know enough about it.

From what I understand, the USB class definition for HID, or Human Interface Devices, was made in 2001. Since then, USB has always had a HID class definition.

It would be beyond peculiar for Sony to have a USB3 port, and for nothing to work through it, as in going down a proprietary route.

However, I would agree with your sentiment, that until manufacturers are willing to produce devices happy in the knowledge that they'll work on the PS4, it's a case of raising a glass to discretion being the better part over valour!

Being the relatively cautious type, and taking your points on board, I will most likely hold fire on ordering anything in the immediate future, and keep fingers crossed that it won't be too long before some sort of affirmative communication is made between Sony and, in this case, Fanatec.

Cheers. 👍
 
PLazarou, this is in relation to something that happened on another thread, I'd take a step back if I were you. (Don't want to get hit with collateral damage from the ban hammer, right?)
 
If Fanatec does not know....

Decent grammar is expected at all times. You've been here long enough that you know you need to adhere to that.

Thank you for this. 👍 I find it funny when the SUPER moderator is human and does the unthinkable and makes a mistake.:):)


When looking through these forums sometimes people are called out for something so petty it is crazy.

Let's all just get along.:)
 
If Fanatec does not know....

Decent grammar is expected at all times. You've been here long enough that you know you need to adhere to that.

There's actually nothing wrong with his grammar at all, remove that large stick from your ass please.
 
If Fanatec does not know....

Decent grammar is expected at all times. You've been here long enough that you know you need to adhere to that.

Is this really needed ? Everybody does what he can, do you really need to pin down everyone who writes a mistake here ?
 
There's actually nothing wrong with his grammar at all, remove that large stick from your ass please.

That is a fair point actually, lol. If one looks at it from the standpoint that a business is an entity which is made up of many individuals, it was structured correctly. If one looks at it from the standpoint of the singular company, then the other way is correct. There have been many disagreements even in grammar classes and between instructors over which way is correct.
 
Is this really needed ? Everybody does what he can, do you really need to pin down everyone who writes a mistake here ?

Mods do this regularly here but usually there is a better reason than in this case.
 
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That is a fair point actually, lol. If one looks at it from the standpoint that a business is an entity which is made up of many individuals, it was structured correctly. If one looks at it from the standpoint of the singular company, then the other way is correct. There have been many disagreements even in grammar classes and between instructors over which way is correct.

Also. In the sense that we are on a forum, and in the forum, the company has a username and the rules state one person, one account, then refering to Fanatec as a singular person is correct. Fanatec = Thomas.

This forum's mods need to learn English before becoming grammar Nazis. I understand attacks on slang, but stuff like this, which is open to interpretation? Come on! It is like coming (edit LOL) down on someone for using PWTS when refering to the Fanatec Porsche wheel. (Which is correct by the way)
 
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Also. In the sense that we are on a forum, and in the forum, the company has a username and the rules state one person, one account, then refering to Fanatec as a singular person is correct. Fanatec = Thomas.

This forum's mods need to learn English before becoming grammar Nazis. I understand attacks on slang, but stuff like this, which is open to interpretation? Come on! It is like comming down on someone for using PWTS when refering to the Fanatec Porsche wheel. (Which is correct by the way)

That's coming by the way.
 
There's actually nothing wrong with his grammar at all, remove that large stick from your ass please.

To clarify, Zextegra seemed to be attempting to mirror the treatment that had been dished out elsewhere on the forum by daan. Also, how and when did mules become involved?
 
really hope this expensive T500 that I literally bought two weeks ago will make the cut and work on the PS4 -_-
 
Last I heard was that the PS4 wants to support as many wheels as possible. They said it is up to the manufacturer of the wheel to provide drivers for the PS4. Makes me wonder if the G25, G27 and DFGT will work on it. From what I have read from Fanatec they will do what they can to make the existing wheels work on both the PS4 and the XB1 so if it is just a matter of providing Sony with a driver for it then should not be a problem.
 
So far there are no drivers from Logitech. No drivers, no support.

Paul Rustchynsky from Evolution Studios:
It's incorrect information. Wheel manufacturers need to provide official PS4 drivers first for us to implement them.
https://twitter.com/Rushy33/status/346043228031680512
Whoever it is (?) they are mistaken. Logitech has not provided PS4 drivers for the G27. Hopefully they will though!
https://twitter.com/Rushy33/status/346198696511279104

My advice, tweet your favourite wheel manufacturers and let them know you want their wheels to support PS4.
https://twitter.com/Rushy33/status/346046284328730624
 
If the ps4 is x86 architecture it may be possible for Fanatec to use a version of their pc driver as well as the current setup for ps3 I would of thought as long as ps4 supports HID standard. Just my interpretation though.
 
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