PURE | Spec Silvia Series | Series Champion: Wardez

[Spurgy 777]

Done my first race of the weekend in Jedi if anyone's interested, and got it on video so will be able to upload it to YouTube hopefully tomorrow Had a bit of bad luck though, Q'ed 7th in the dry, then it rained for the race and had the pace to get on the podium, but about half way through, someone spun infront of me and I had nowhere to go. Ended up 10th which was annoying but no expensive damage 👍 Hopefully tomorrow will go better Shame I had to miss Nurb, generally have quite good races round it.

 

[Wardez]

Thanks guys, I'm lucky I was able to lose the draft so early on and run my race, everything went to plan pretty much. Even though I was by myself, it was a ton of fun working the gap and such. Decision to go from dawn to sunset was great 👍

Great job on the series Steve, thanks for putting it on. Never thought I'd be champ of anything anymore these days haha, let alone back to back wins.

Car was good to me, I like her.

 

[carracerptp]

congrats Eddie! dude was an alien machine from planet Nissan today. Completely uncatchable. Had a good run with Travis and Rich, my tire wear caught up with me at the end of lap 7 and I was a sitting duck just watching my podium drive off on lap 8. Jenson Button is the only man with more 4th place finishes than me!

Good season. Good finale. Had a blast. 👍
Think I held on to enough points to stay ahead of Travis by 1 in the championship though.
Pretty sure he needed rich between us to jump me.

Good race. I needed 2nd so I gave 110% going into the last turn before the straight and couldn't get the car settled.

My 1.5 laps in practice was the first time I had been in GT5 all week. So I was really banking on my general consistency at the ring.

Turn 1 was mad, 4 wide and Eddie left us for dead.

Fun battle 👍

Done my first race of the weekend in Jedi if anyone's interested, and got it on video so will be able to upload it to YouTube hopefully tomorrow Had a bit of bad luck though, Q'ed 7th in the dry, then it rained for the race and had the pace to get on the podium, but about half way through, someone spun infront of me and I had nowhere to go. Ended up 10th which was annoying but no expensive damage 👍 Hopefully tomorrow will go better Shame I had to miss Nurb, generally have quite good races round it.

Post the link when it's up 👍


Great series Steve. The car was good fun.

 

[OutlawQuadrnt]

congrats Eddie! dude was an alien machine from planet Nissan today. Completely uncatchable. Had a good run with Travis and Rich, my tire wear caught up with me at the end of lap 7 and I was a sitting duck just watching my podium drive off on lap 8. Jenson Button is the only man with more 4th place finishes than me!

Good season. Good finale. Had a blast. 👍
Think I held on to enough points to stay ahead of Travis by 1 in the championship though.
Pretty sure he needed rich between us to jump me.

2 seconds faster does nothing if you chew up the tires doing so.

If 2 stopping was the way to go, I would've gone with rear biased brakes and pushed harder than I did. On the flip side, good chance for a spectacular off, so the goal today was driving within my limits. I was too conservative at T1, and somehow I ended being in a Nissan sammich. Owens got ahead of me but that was inconsequential, since I was still losing time to Eddie once I cleared Jeff. Then, the Tim and Travis train pulled past me and did everything to gap me. They did but somehow, I erased a 2+ second gap in one sector on Lap 4. Coming onto pit road, I pulled a ballsy move on Tim and got ahead.

An eternity later, we left pit road with Tim apparently adding much less gas than Travis and I. Slowly, we reeled him in, but had a heart attack at one corner where I forgot to downshift, which made me go wide. Saved it but had to start all over again. Fortunately, I was the ahead car in the first few sectors, where I felt I had the advantage and latched onto Tim. Caught up and with Travis pushing, passed him up the long uphill. Then I tried throwing it away at Carousel, but saved that Silvia.

After that was a lap and a half of terror. Pushed my limits to not have Travis in my draft and somehow, I pulled it off. I didn't win the race but it sure felt like it. The green monster did not bite me today.

Oh, and btw, I had popped my back before the race start. It's on my right side and since I manipulate the gas a lot, well, let's just say that felt like a ten hour drive.

 

[Dr_Watson]

let's just say that felt like a ten hour drive.

even without back problems I had sweat dripping off me trying to catch eddo... btw that pit pass was hillarious.

 

[OutlawQuadrnt]

even without back problems I had sweat dripping off me trying to catch eddo... btw that pit pass was hillarious.

I forget who but someone had come into my room last week and ran a 22 fairly easy. He said he was running 2/6 as his brake bias and in fact, that felt quick when I tried it. Just couldn't cobble together a whole lap, though.

And yeah, that was adventurous of me on that entry. An inch to the left and a bad back would've been the least of my injuries.

 

[carracerptp]

I was running 3/6 brake bias.

 

[Litchi]

Just back from poker with my friends (and I'm drunk a bit aswell). I just hope you had a great race guys. I really like this track since WRS Week 94 and i'm still disappointed to not being able to race with you all.

even if I wasn't present for the whole season, I say that it was a great series, with great drivers, as usual

And after 2 years, I still think that PURE is really the best league ever!!!

I was running 3/6 brake bias.

When I'm 2/1 with ABS 0 :/

 

[Dr_Watson]

And yeah, that was adventurous of me on that entry. An inch to the left and a bad back would've been the least of my injuries.

Yeah, I was just cruising trying to leave enough space to not get balked by travis boxing and then "hey wtf?!?" ... would have been skating away on lolerskates had you pit-bricked.

 

[OutlawQuadrnt]

Yeah, I was just cruising trying to leave enough space to not get balked by travis boxing and then "hey wtf?!?" ... would have been skating away on lolerskates had you pit-bricked.

You won't believe how close I came to being a whack-a-wall.

 

[carracerptp]

I didn't think you could fit 2 wide on entrance.

Side note, how the heck did Owens beat me to turn 1 twice

 

[Dr_Watson]

points are up... Congrats Eddie. 3 wins, 3 poles, 5 podiums =
So all it takes to go from good human to alien is a week @ GT-Academy.

GJ 👍

rounding out the top 5:
outlaw4rc
Dr_Watson
carracerptp
Spurgy777

 

[OwensRacing]

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nOxdKcqC_I">YouTube Link</a>

I didn't think you could fit 2 wide on entrance.

Side note, how the heck did Owens beat me to turn 1 twice

The Blue Rims!!!

I used to cut some pretty good lights drag racing. Those false starts. Either I nail them or get a slight penalty. This race. I nailed it. Almost caught Wardez too. Had a decent run going till I over drove the car. Then you guys was were a memory. I so was hoping to stay in the draft for a lap or two and get a decent lead from those behind.

 

[Spurgy 777]

First Jedi race on YouTube, skip to 5 minutes in to see the start, I couldn't be bothered to edit out the warm up laps

 

[carracerptp]

The Blue Rims!!!

I used to cut some pretty good lights drag racing. Those false starts. Either I nail them or get a slight penalty. This race. I nailed it. Almost caught Wardez too. Had a decent run going till I over drove the car. Then you guys was were a memory. I so was hoping to stay in the draft for a lap or two and get a decent lead from those behind.

Last week I thought I had a an OK launch, but I missed my 2nd shift (My paddles are broken so I'm using the DFGT shifter "nob") This week you had an great start and I'm not sure what I was doing.

First Jedi race on YouTube, skip to 5 minutes in to see the start, I couldn't be bothered to edit out the warm up laps

Nice pass @7:22

 

[Dr_Watson]

Some may find this interesting.

Here's a fuel and tire comparison of the top drivers on a 1-stop.
Top half is the mid-race pit, bottom half is at the finish line.

The HD-PVR takes very accurate screen shots, so I snapped everyone when they were stopping in their stall on lap 4. Then after they crossed the finish line on lap 8. Each screenshot is lined up so the first black pixel of tire gauge is even with each other. The pink lines are at the top of the "best tire". If there is any black between the pink and the blue, that tire is more worn than the least worn.

Things I find interesting:
Everyone's rears are freaking identical on the first 4 laps.
On the day-night tracks GT does apparently estimate the effect of the ambient temperature since everyone's tires are way cooler at the end of 8 than on the end of 4.
Travis and Rich... You guys put WAY too much fuel in. I led a lot so you guys burned way less than me and I put in less than you both in the stop.

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Finale video is cut and rendering. Then I'll pass it off to Eddie for commentary. So stay tuned.

 

[carracerptp]

Everyone's rears are freaking identical on the first 4 laps.
On the day-night tracks GT does apparently estimate the effect of the ambient temperature since everyone's tires are way cooler at the end of 8 than on the end of 4.

I can't figure that out.

Travis and Rich... You guys put WAY too much fuel in. I led a lot so you guys burned way less than me and I put in less than you both in the stop.

I have ran out or almost ran out of fuel twice when I had a 4th-3rd place finish. I was not risking anything.

I almost wonder if that helped us when the tires got cold? My tire wear wasn't that much better.

Finale video is cut and rendering. Then I'll pass it off to Eddie for commentary. So stay tuned.

Can't wait 👍

 

[OutlawQuadrnt]

Travis and Rich... You guys put WAY too much fuel in. I led a lot so you guys burned way less than me and I put in less than you both in the stop.

Can't be helped. Fuel and me is like a slot machine. Only way to win is not to play that game at all.

 

[Dr_Watson]

I almost wonder if that helped us when the tires got cold? My tire wear wasn't that much better.

I think the temperature effect is why I fell off at the end. As you say, we all had pretty even wear, and they weren't that bad. I was able to drive pretty hard on lap3 and 4, (I actually think we could have extended that lap3 gap and run away from Rich on 4 if you'd let me lead ) but when I tried to push at the end of the race I messed up Adenauer Forst and Bergwerk on 7 and I almost ended up in the sand trap outside Aremberg on 8. Then just couldn't keep up and steadily fell back.
That's why I took a look at the tires. I know you guys are generally better than me on lap 1 cold tires, so if the sun going down cooled our shoes that would explain my frustrations. I just stink on cold tires, I have real issues driving slippery cars in GT... I need the seat-of-my pants feedback of G-Forces to be comfortable with a loose car. :/

GR though, it's uploading now... So Eddie will have it tonight.

Can't be helped. Fuel and me is like a slot machine. Only way to win is not to play that game at all.

This one was pretty simple math though. I did exactly what I said in the chat before the race. Stopping at 50% means you just look at the fuel you used in the first 4 (the # it says is the max you can put in to fill it to 100), and make sure you fill it to that point. I even put in a bonus +5L to make sure.
You guys put in so much more though that I got nervous leaving the pits; did the out lap with short-shifting and fuel-saving rather than trust the math.

 

[carracerptp]

I think the temperature effect is why I fell off at the end. As you say, we all had pretty even wear, and they weren't that bad. I was able to drive pretty hard on lap3 and 4, (I actually think we could have extended that lap3 gap and run away from Rich on 4 if you'd let me lead )

Yeah, I realized that we needed you leading the breakaway in sectors 3,4 and 5. I was around a second off there. I did think about how I could let you overtake without hurting us. I could not match your corner speeds to save my life. The line just didn't seem to work right.

but when I tried to push at the end of the race I messed up Adenauer Forst and Bergwerk on 7 and I almost ended up in the sand trap outside Aremberg on 8. Then just couldn't keep up and steadily fell back.
That's why I took a look at the tires. I know you guys are generally better than me on lap 1 cold tires, so if the sun going down cooled our shoes that would explain my frustrations. I just stink on cold tires, I have real issues driving slippery cars in GT... I need the seat-of-my pants feedback of G-Forces to be comfortable with a loose car. :/

I have alway done my best on cold tires so that would make sense. As the temps go up my relative pace goes down. I can feel the grip fall-off limits better on cold tires.

 

[OutlawQuadrnt]

My wheel has so little feedback, I try to remember what the car's limit is at every single corner. Then I try driving close to that on my out lap. That usually works well for me, even more so with a lighter fuel load.

All I know is that my math is always off because my consumption rate varies depending on how the race unfolds.

 

[Dr_Watson]

here's the major corner names for the uninitiated:

Yeah, I realized that we needed you leading the breakaway in sectors 3,4 and 5. I was around a second off there. I did think about how I could let you overtake without hurting us. I could not match your corner speeds to save my life. The line just didn't seem to work right.

From what I could tell we were pretty even on the GP track up to the chicane where I'd come through there with more speed in 4th and my late apex line onto the north loop generally worked better. After that we kind of flip-flopped.
I had the pace through to Aremberg but the run down through Fuchsrohre and up into the fast left leading into Adenauer-Forst I was taking it too easy. Was losing time there to you guys and Eddie's splits. But I'd get it back by Ex-Muhle (the downhill tight left after the 100mph Wehrsiefen section) where I was being more aggressive. Then I'd hold an advantage through to Klostertal simply because I'm very conscious about the importance of jumping on the throttle as early as possible in Bergwerk (the one time I got it wrong and had to lift is on 7 when you both went past ).

Then we were pretty even until you all just killed me from Wippermann-Pflanzgarten... was bleeding time all through the up-down-left-right 3rd-4th transitions. That section has always been my weak spot (unfortunately it's also the WRS qualifier section )

Eddie was getting the last turn onto the Dottenger-Hohe straight correct but it looked like you and Rich didn't have the faith in the blind apex (Litchi had the same problem in our practice races... seems pretty common). Slight lift, blind turn-in and power through in 5th was the way to go there.

 

[mohitraina91]

Eddie was getting the last turn onto the Dottenger-Hohe straight correct but it looked like you and Rich didn't have the faith in the blind apex (Litchi had the same problem in our practice races... seems pretty common). Slight lift, blind turn-in and power through in 5th was the way to go there.

Secret for that corner, there's a sign on the left that you can use to turn in. People never notice it because they're looking towards the (blind) apex on the right. As soon as your car is almost level with the sign, turn. It's like magic , you won't mess it up again.

 

[carracerptp]

Then I'd hold an advantage through to Klostertal simply because I'm very conscious about the importance of jumping on the throttle as early as possible in Bergwerk (the one time I got it wrong and had to lift is on 7 when you both went past ).

The grip in that corner is amazing. I never really found the limit.

Then we were pretty even until you all just killed me from Wippermann-Pflanzgarten... was bleeding time all through the up-down-left-right 3rd-4th transitions. That section has always been my weak spot (unfortunately it's also the WRS qualifier section )

You turn in a little too late. I noticed that when I was following you. Also you have to trust the curbs will keep you off the grass. Smooth driving is doesn't work here.

Eddie was getting the last turn onto the Dottenger-Hohe straight correct but it looked like you and Rich didn't have the faith in the blind apex (Litchi had the same problem in our practice races... seems pretty common). Slight lift, blind turn-in and power through in 5th was the way to go there.

I have been told I stink here. Before the last online physics change I had it nailed. Now with more understeer I just can't get it to turn in.

Secret for that corner, there's a sign on the left that you can use to turn in. People never notice it because they're looking towards the (blind) apex on the right. As soon as your car is almost level with the sign, turn. It's like magic , you won't mess it up again.

Thank you, I will try that.

 

[Third Reign]

That map looks way off.

Adenauer Forst isn't detailed at all, Wehrseifen is actually located where Ex-Mühle is labeled, Ex-Mühle is the corner before the 10km mark and Breidsheid should be the bridge in between.

Official Map: http://www.nurburgringexplorer.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/nurburgring_map_color.jpg

Got some awesome pictures of some GT3 monsters blasting down Hatzenbach in dusk and rain yesterday.

 

[Dr_Watson]

That map looks way off.

Adenauer Forst isn't detailed at all, Wehrseifen is actually located where Ex-Mühle is labeled, Ex-Mühle is the corner before the 10km mark and Breidsheid should be the bridge in between.

Official Map: http://www.nurburgringexplorer.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/nurburgring_map_color.jpg

Got some awesome pictures of some GT3 monsters blasting down Hatzenbach in dusk and rain yesterday.

I grabbed the first one on google image search that had legible writing and the GP-Loop. The one you linked is only readable because I already know what it's supposed to say.

 

[OutlawQuadrnt]

The sector past Aremberg and the GP section, that's the only two places I'm good at. Everywhere else, I'm at various levels of stink. Watching Tim and Travis helped me attack certain corners better than I had been doing, though. Bergwerk is where I improved the most, switching from rounding the corner smoothly to delaying my turn in as late as possible.

As for the turns leading to Dottenger-Hohe, that used to be a good spot for me in GT4. Now I get the most random, but sudden understeer.

 

[Dr_Watson]

The sector past Aremberg and the GP section, that's the only two places I'm good at. Everywhere else, I'm at various levels of stink. Watching Tim and Travis helped me attack certain corners better than I had been doing, though. Bergwerk is where I improved the most, switching from rounding the corner smoothly to delaying my turn in as late as possible.

As for the turns leading to Dottenger-Hohe, that used to be a good spot for me in GT4. Now I get the most random, but sudden understeer.

Yeah, that's exactly what I was talking about with: "the run down through Fuchsrohre and up into the fast left leading into Adenauer-Forst". You were always catching up through there, more than just the draft would allow. I know I was being a bit too tentative through there since if you get it wrong you're totally eff'd. Nothing like taking the left at the top of the hill 10mph too quick and ending up with the right side tires in the grass trying to brake and turn into Adenauer. (my "hows my driving" vid had a nice example of how to screw that up but stay out of the barriers ) Didn't have the confidence to bomb through there knowing a mis-step would cost me dearly in the race to stay within 3 pts of Travis.

 

[OutlawQuadrnt]

Yeah, that's exactly what I was talking about with: "the run down through Fuchsrohre and up into the fast left leading into Adenauer-Forst". You were always catching up through there, more than just the draft would allow. I know I was being a bit too tentative through there since if you get it wrong you're totally eff'd. Nothing like taking the left at the top of the hill 10mph too quick and ending up with the right side tires in the grass trying to brake and turn into Adenauer. (my "hows my driving" vid had a nice example of how to screw that up but stay out of the barriers ) Didn't have the confidence to bomb through there knowing a mis-step would cost me dearly in the race to stay within 3 pts of Travis.

I push hard there because I find that safer than trying to tiptoe.

 

[Dr_Watson]

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=283021