Question on upgrading a 289

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Recently found a 1965 289 engine that a guy's selling for $450 with 1968 high performance heads.

I'm questioning the heads since Google and our 289 indetificaion sheet show no HiPo heads for 1968. We haven't seen them yet, so I don't have any pictures. I'm thinking they're possibly from a Shelby (possibly) or are made to be high performance heads.

If anyone could clear this up, that would be great :). Casting code does show its a 1968 (C8OE-7K13).

Edit: We just bought a '65 block - came with 2 non-matching heads and these heads (which are NOT HiPo heads). We are now looking into building it into a mild-perfomance engine.
 
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No hi-po for 1968. 302 was introduced that year. I sincerely doubt it has Shelby heads. I think the guy is jerking your chain to be honest.

When I bought my Mustang, the owner swore up and down that it had a "high lift cam" and "ported heads" both of which were total bs. However, I was 16 and wanted to go fast, so I bought it anyways.
 
Indeed no high-a nything for the 289 in 1968; even so, think about them this way: high performance heads in the 60s = laughable performance heads today. For that money buy a set of used GT40s on E-Bay and be done with it.
 
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Indeed no high-a nything for the 289 in 1968; even so, think about them this way: high performance heads in the 60s = laughable performance heads today. For that money buy a set of used GT40s on E-Bay and be done with it.

Zees. Unless you have a personal reason (eg: accurate restoration), buy modern parts.
 
Thought so :/

The engine originally had a cracked head, but the seller found this matching pair of "high performance heads" for $200 he says. A little but more poking around leads me to believe they're just 302 heads (that being the C8OE-K code).

Only other option is to just buy the engine as-is with the cracked head for $250 and hunt down another pair of heads.
 
If the bottom end is in decent shape, then $250 sounds fair. I would just get some E7's to be honest. They are hardly the highest flowing heads out there, but they are cheap, easy to find, and are fun on a stock motor. No use putting aluminum heads if you don't have a big cam and increased compression anyways. You will be amazed at how fast a first gen mustang can be with a essentially stock small block.

Just be sure you have a good rear axle (3.73 is a good choice) and a manual transmission. Autos suck the life out of an engine, IMO. My brother has a '67 coupe with a stock-block '91 5.0 engine, bored over to a 306. It has a holley 600, longtube headers, and that's it. 3.73 gears paired with a T3550 5 speed manual trans, and it will roast the tires (275 section no less!) through all of first and second gear. It genuinely shocked me how quick it was, considering how pathetically slow it was when the same engine was mated to a C4 auto and 2.72 gears.

Let me put it to you this way, producing torque at the rear wheels is what accelerates the car. Let's assume you have a 1:1 gear and a 2.72:1 axle.

If you increase torque at the motor from 280 to 320 (somewhat realistic, although it's more likely just to shift the torque peak higher in the rev range) you will be producing 870lbs*fts of torque at the wheels, in the 1:1 gear, which is about 110lbs*ft more than you would if you left the engine alone.

Now if instead of modifying the engine, you change the rear axle ratio to 3.73:1 and leave the engine torque at 280, you will be producing 1044lbs*ft of torque at the rear wheels in that same imaginary gear! That's a stonking 285lbs*ft more! More than double the gains you would get from doing expensive engine modifications.

Of course with higher gear ratios means that you aren't able to go as fast in each gear, but later on, you merely have to upgrade the engine, allowing it to rev higher (heads, higher-lift cam, etc) and it will make up for it.

Remember, torque at the engine is largely irrelevant. It's the torque that gets put to the pavement that counts. That is why low torque, high power, high rpm cars are just as fast as high torque, low rpm cars. Gearing + RPM!

Rotary ftw?!

I may have gone on a tangent..apologies.
 
Assuming the car still has the same stock rear axle, mine is 2.8:1. Looking at the ID plate, found out the car was once an automatic too :crazy:.

The block's been bored .030" over. Still have to make a thourough lookover inside all the ports an pockets just incase.

Rotary? Meh. It'd be nice to own a car that has 8 rotarys though xD (I believe that would be a first, no?)
 
We now have a block and these heads...which turned out to not be HiPo heads.

We're looking into making it into a mild-performance engine - advice and part recommendations are greatly accepted. Some bits we're considering:
-Shave the heads down a bit
-Performance cam
-New valves
-New carb/intake
-High compression pistons
-Headers
 
I would go for a mild cam (ford racing E303 or TFS-001 comes to mind) if you are using stock heads. But other than that, that should be a fun motor. Probably 235-250whp and a lot of torque from idle. I'd stay away from Holley carbs. They make good power but they need a lot of maintenance and leak. Something in the 600cfm range will work well. Look at Edelbrock if you can afford it. If you do end up getting pistons, I would suggest boring the engine out to a 306. It doesn't cost much, and you can feel the difference.

edit: It seems like you have Ford E5 heads. They are pretty inferior as to what is available cheaply. If you shave them down, you might get combustion chambers close to the size of the E7s, but what's the point? Go find a pick-n-pull junkyard and grab a pair of cylinder heads from a late model, 5.0 explorer. They are iron version of the GT40 heads. Those engines made 260hp in stock from, IIRC, in the explorer. You will have to block of EGR I think, but other than that, they should bolt right up. Way better than any E5 heads even with work done to them.

Here is a link to more info: http://mustangforums.com/forum/5-0l-general-discussion/582166-ford-explorer-heads.html

I would suggest some type of longtube header. We've got hooker competition longtubes on this:
DSC_0114.jpg

Mild 306. Sounds amazing with the longtubes. I think there is an H pipe on this car, but I would recommend an X if possible.

And again, do NOT forget getting a better rear axle ratio! This is far more important than any of the mods you listed. It will double your torque roughly! Those mods might increase it by 15-20%
 
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Recently found a 1965 289 engine that a guy's selling for $450 with 1968 high performance heads.

I'm questioning the heads since Google and our 289 indetificaion sheet show no HiPo heads for 1968. We haven't seen them yet, so I don't have any pictures. I'm thinking they're possibly from a Shelby (possibly) or are made to be high performance heads.

If anyone could clear this up, that would be great :). Casting code does show its a 1968 (C8OE-7K13).

Edit: We just bought a '65 block - came with 2 non-matching heads and these heads (which are NOT HiPo heads). We are now looking into building it into a mild-perfomance engine.

1968 did NOT have any Hi-Po heads AT all. I garuantee you they are NOT Shelby's either. As already said. Don't even try running it with mismatched heads. To put it lightly, stock heads BLOW. If they are plain 302 heads, you got lucky cause that's what I run. Light machine work with the small combustion chambers can yeild decent horsepower but not what aftermarket can. GT40, GT40P and E7 heads are the best "stock" heads you can get that will bolt right in. You might have to drill the bolt holes out to fit the different size head bolts but you can do it yourself with a drill press or even a hand drill if you can keep it straight.

No hi-po for 1968. 302 was introduced that year. I sincerely doubt it has Shelby heads. I think the guy is jerking your chain to be honest.

When I bought my Mustang, the owner swore up and down that it had a "high lift cam" and "ported heads" both of which were total bs. However, I was 16 and wanted to go fast, so I bought it anyways.

I would've bought it anyways too :lol:

Indeed no high-a nything for the 289 in 1968; even so, think about them this way: high performance heads in the 60s = laughable performance heads today. For that money buy a set of used GT40s on E-Bay and be done with it.

The 289 was discontinued past 1968, when the 302 came into play as it's replacement. It's really the same engine though. Port the GT40 heads though while you're at it.

Thought so :/

The engine originally had a cracked head, but the seller found this matching pair of "high performance heads" for $200 he says. A little but more poking around leads me to believe they're just 302 heads (that being the C8OE-K code).

Only other option is to just buy the engine as-is with the cracked head for $250 and hunt down another pair of heads.

It's bull. Trust me.

If the bottom end is in decent shape, then $250 sounds fair. I would just get some E7's to be honest. They are hardly the highest flowing heads out there, but they are cheap, easy to find, and are fun on a stock motor. No use putting aluminum heads if you don't have a big cam and increased compression anyways. You will be amazed at how fast a first gen mustang can be with a essentially stock small block.

Not true. Mild cams and low compression can be a good thing, later on for turbos and low compression with a mild RV cam can give you monster low end torque.


Just be sure you have a good rear axle (3.73 is a good choice) and a manual transmission. Autos suck the life out of an engine, IMO. My brother has a '67 coupe with a stock-block '91 5.0 engine, bored over to a 306. It has a holley 600, longtube headers, and that's it. 3.73 gears paired with a T3550 5 speed manual trans, and it will roast the tires (275 section no less!) through all of first and second gear. It genuinely shocked me how quick it was, considering how pathetically slow it was when the same engine was mated to a C4 auto and 2.72 gears.

3.73, 3.56 and 4.10/11 gears are probably the best set of gears you can get. I'm willing to bet since it had an automatic it was probably either a Cruise-O-Matic or a C4, the latter being the better of the 2.

Let me put it to you this way, producing torque at the rear wheels is what accelerates the car. Let's assume you have a 1:1 gear and a 2.72:1 axle.

Torque wins races. I doubt he'll be racing this anyway.

If you increase torque at the motor from 280 to 320 (somewhat realistic, although it's more likely just to shift the torque peak higher in the rev range) you will be producing 870lbs*fts of torque at the wheels, in the 1:1 gear, which is about 110lbs*ft more than you would if you left the engine alone.

Generally. Other factors come into play though sometimes with certain combinations or setups.

Now if instead of modifying the engine, you change the rear axle ratio to 3.73:1 and leave the engine torque at 280, you will be producing 1044lbs*ft of torque at the rear wheels in that same imaginary gear! That's a stonking 285lbs*ft more! More than double the gains you would get from doing expensive engine modifications.

Doing both will be one scary car. That's why when you tell someone you have a low horsepower can that launches like a bat out of hell makes them think howdafukkdidudodat?

Of course with higher gear ratios means that you aren't able to go as fast in each gear, but later on, you merely have to upgrade the engine, allowing it to rev higher (heads, higher-lift cam, etc) and it will make up for it.


Remember, torque at the engine is largely irrelevant. It's the torque that gets put to the pavement that counts. That is why low torque, high power, high rpm cars are just as fast as high torque, low rpm cars. Gearing + RPM!

Rotary ftw?!

I may have gone on a tangent..apologies.


Like I said before, low compression with a mild RV cam will make gobs of low end torque, either in or below 3500 rpm, while leaving the option to turbo. Ghnsu, if you plan to turbo it later on for whatever reason, make sure compression stays 8.5:1 or below.

Assuming the car still has the same stock rear axle, mine is 2.8:1. Looking at the ID plate, found out the car was once an automatic too :crazy:.

Only way to tell is to crawl under their and look at the number on the pumpkin. That will give you an idea, however finding out your actual gears will have to be tested.

The block's been bored .030" over. Still have to make a thourough lookover inside all the ports an pockets just incase.

Have the block sonic tested for cracks, just in case. That's the first thing to do when purchasing a block. A 289 can be bored only a another .030 over which would put you at 289 cubes. Best option here is either increase the stroke and build it up to a 306 like said, or get a forged rotating assembly, slap some aluminum heads, intake, Holley carb, headers, mild cam and BAM you've got yourself a street demon.

Rotary? Meh. It'd be nice to own a car that has 8 rotarys though xD (I believe that would be a first, no?)

We now have a block and these heads...which turned out to not be HiPo heads.

We're looking into making it into a mild-performance engine - advice and part recommendations are greatly accepted. Some bits we're considering:
-Shave the heads down a bit
-Performance cam
-New valves
-New carb/intake
-High compression pistons
-Headers

I figured they wouldn't be Hi-Po heads. Don't touch the heads that you have. Get some kind of aftermarket or the others we suggested. Stock heads don't even flow as well as the worst aluminum heads with them being fully ported. Remember, you're engine only flows as well as the heads it's feeding into.

I would go for a mild cam (ford racing E303 or TFS-001 comes to mind) if you are using stock heads. But other than that, that should be a fun motor. Probably 235-250whp and a lot of torque from idle. I'd stay away from Holley carbs. They make good power but they need a lot of maintenance and leak. Something in the 600cfm range will work well. Look at Edelbrock if you can afford it. If you do end up getting pistons, I would suggest boring the engine out to a 306. It doesn't cost much, and you can feel the difference.

As much as I love Holley carbs and hate to say it, I agree. They are VERY high maintenance. I've oned a bunch over the years and they've all yield epic performance but needed a lot of care.

edit: It seems like you have Ford E5 heads. They are pretty inferior as to what is available cheaply. If you shave them down, you might get combustion chambers close to the size of the E7s, but what's the point? Go find a pick-n-pull junkyard and grab a pair of cylinder heads from a late model, 5.0 explorer. They are iron version of the GT40 heads. Those engines made 260hp in stock from, IIRC, in the explorer. You will have to block of EGR I think, but other than that, they should bolt right up. Way better than any E5 heads even with work done to them.


This. Then again, that's only 30hp more than the 289 made if it was all original, at the ground. Rated 260hp at the crank, with a manual it would have probably put that down. Auto, probably more like 210.


Here is a link to more info: http://mustangforums.com/forum/5-0l-general-discussion/582166-ford-explorer-heads.html

I would suggest some type of longtube header. We've got hooker competition longtubes on this:
DSC_0114.jpg

Mild 306. Sounds amazing with the longtubes. I think there is an H pipe on this car, but I would recommend an X if possible.

Hooker longtubes are AMAZING.

And again, do NOT forget getting a better rear axle ratio! This is far more important than any of the mods you listed. It will double your torque roughly! Those mods might increase it by 15-20%



Definitely. The one you have is kind of on the low side.

Whats your rear end sibce it had a V8 before?
 
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Edit: This post was in response to the post above that has since been edited. Originally, slashfan claimed that a 302 with a "simple tune" would make an "easy 375-400hp."

You will not get anywhere near that power with a "simple tune"

I don't know why people think that SBF are capable of incredible power without a huge amount of work.

If you did an entire trick-flow top end kit (heads, cam, efi intake) you might see 270whp on a 306. To make 400hp on a 302 based engine takes an extraordinary amount of work. I'm talking fully built 347 stroker that isn't really streetable anymore. A friend of mine has a mildly built 306 with a gt47r turbo on it running 8-10psi, and it's only making 400whp...

I remember now why I got out of the Mustang/Ford Performance loop...their owners tend to think their cars are decedent from God. Also why I got out of the Honda loop...
 
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You will not get anywhere near that power with a "simple tune"

I don't know why people think that SBF are capable of incredible power without a huge amount of work.

If you did an entire trick-flow top end kit (heads, cam, efi intake) you might see 270whp on a 306. To make 400hp on a 302 based engine takes an extraordinary amount of work. I'm talking fully built 347 stroker that isn't really streetable anymore. A friend of mine has a mildly built 306 with a gt47r turbo on it running 8-10psi, and it's only making 400whp...

I remember now why I got out of the Mustang/Ford Performance loop...their owners tend to think their cars are decedent from God. Also why I got out of the Honda loop...

It's not exactly hard...I'm mean, yeah it is, but it's not at the same time. Maybe with a 289, after that I've seen a 331 (302) lay down 500 not supercharged or turboed. So yeah, it can be done. Might be expensive,, but relatively simple.

302 will make max 600hp and 351's will do 800, at MAX. It takes a lot of money but most of it's slap on and go. That's just about all they can hold, that's why one my my 351's died after running 780hp. That was a 🤬 nightmare.



Quick tune pulled off Google, and proven with dyno sheets. 450 out of a naturally aspirated 289 tuned 331 stroker with bolt ons.

High Nickel Mexican Block bored to 4.040"
Eagle 3.25" 4340 Forged Crank
Eagle 5.400" H-Beam Forged Rods
Ross .040" over Flat Top Pistons
Comp Cams XE274HR Cam .555/.565 lift, 224/232* Duration @ .050 lift, 112* lobe center
AFR 186 Heads
Power Plus Cross Wind Intake (Edelbrock Performer RPM Air Gap will also work)
Barry Grant Speed Demon 750 Carb
MSD Billet Distributor w/advance locked
MSD Blaster II Ignition
1 5/8" Hooker Super Comp Headers

This combination is good for a dyno proven 448hp @ 6100 rpm and 445lb/ft torque @ 4700 rpm.
 
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Those heads are $1000 a piece! That is a $600 crankshaft! The pistons are $600 for a set for crying out loud! The cam set is even $700. That is probably close to a $10,000 engine. When is a stroked, fully built race motor a simple tune? When is replacing literally every single component of the engine either easy or simple?? A simple tune on a pushrod SBF means mostly stock components and between 200-250whp. That is the reality. A Ford 302 will not make 600hp, at least not for long. The engine block is simply not strong enough and it will crack along the valley. And no, the K-code hi-po 289 never made anywhere near a real 270hp. That was SAE gross. A hi-po 289 will probably put down around 195-210whp or 225bhp in stock trim. That's a best case scenario. Here is one result:

1965 289 High-Performance Automatic
Actual Rear Wheel:
141 hp/254 lb-ft
Estimated at Flywheel:
176 hp/318 lb-ft
Factory Rating:
271 hp/312 lb-ft

Another result from MM&FF

2V 289 = 108 RWHP
4V Non-HiP0 = 141RWHP
4V HIPO = 171RWHP

The 1960s were a time of very imaginative horsepower ratings.

For reference, my emissions restricted, non-turbo 80 cubic inch engine from the dawn of fuel injection would put down more power stock than the original 2 barrel 289. :lol:
 
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Those heads are $1000 a piece! That is a $600 crankshaft! The pistons are $600 for a set for crying out loud! The cam set is even $700. That is probably close to a $10,000 engine. When is a stroked, fully built race motor a simple tune? When is replacing literally every single component of the engine either easy or simple?? A simple tune on a pushrod SBF means mostly stock components and between 200-250whp. That is the reality. A Ford 302 will not make 600hp, at least not for long. The engine block is simply not strong enough and it will crack along the valley. And no, the K-code hi-po 289 never made anywhere near a real 270hp. That was SAE gross. A hi-po 289 will probably put down around 195-210whp or 225bhp in stock trim. That's a best case scenario. Here is one result:

1965 289 High-Performance Automatic
Actual Rear Wheel:
141 hp/254 lb-ft
Estimated at Flywheel:
176 hp/318 lb-ft
Factory Rating:
271 hp/312 lb-ft

Another result from MM&FF

2V 289 = 108 RWHP
4V Non-HiP0 = 141RWHP
4V HIPO = 171RWHP

The 1960s were a time of very imaginative horsepower ratings.

For reference, my emissions restricted, non-turbo 80 cubic inch engine from the dawn of fuel injection would put down more power stock than the original 2 barrel 289. :lol:



I didn't say it would be cheap, I said it could be done (for that kind of power anyways). And yes, a 302 will hold 600hp just fine, anymore and it will explode.
 
heh, I knew this thread would turn into Slashfan telling us Ford engines make gobs and gobs of power just with pouring some water into them. There's a reason people put small block Chevys into Mustangs, not just to be annoying.
 
I didn't say it would be cheap, I said it could be done (for that kind of power anyways). And yes, a 302 will hold 600hp just fine, anymore and it will explode.

Tell me how useful that is in this thread. I'd like to here it.

And no. 450hp is the practical limit on a 302 block without a girdle.
 
Tell me how useful that is in this thread. I'd like to here it.

And no. 450hp is the practical limit on a 302 block without a girdle.

:lol: You're going to tell me I haven't done it? Any respected builder will tell you any 302 block can hold 600 horses :lol: Just about max. Anymore and the block will split. Do a quick seatch, it's common knowledge XD
 
Alright.


1.
Not even close. The rods are good to ~500fwhp with a good set of bolts, and I don't really know when the cranks will die (I suspect somewhere upside of 600hp) but the stock blocks will split clean in half at ~475fwhp. THAT really kills the potential



If properly prepped, I think a stock 302 crank can handle around 500-550 hp, any more and you're going on thin ice. The block is the real weak link, since there isn't much meat in there. Cracking in the mains, between the cylinders, even up into the lifter valley can happen.

2.
There are some freaks in the 9's on stock blocks, but truthfully anything over 500 hp and you're running on borrowed time.



Stock blocks were not engineered for severe use. Some people have had success without breaking one. Motorsport even says 450 horse is limit. Myself, I have cracked one block and busted the main web/crank in another under 500 horse. Stroker motors are at even more risk due to greater centrifugal forces of the longer crank arm. Good main Girdles cost more than the block is worth. Adding 100s of horsepower and thousands of dollars worth of parts on a $300 block is an accident waiting to happen

Just a few entries I've found in my brief search.


Slashfan, I'd really like to see some of these engines you claim to have built. Because I just don't buy it...
 
I can find just as many if not more contradicting that >.>. I've seen guys at the strip doing 750 but rarely lasted longer than a race with mid 9s. Oh well.
 
Surviving for a quarter of a mile isn't what I call an engine. I call that a bomb with a 9 second timer. If an engine lasts less than 5,000 miles it's not suitable for street use. I suspect your 600hp 302-based engines will fall into this category....

edit: For the record, all of the entries I posted above were chosen simply because they were the most succinct, not because their information was in my favor. The fact is I did not see a single post claiming that a 302 can 'handle' 600hp. It's because they cannot. They can make that much power, but they will break.

I'm still waiting to see some engines you've built, as you claim you have. This thread not more than 10 months ago seems to indicate you don't even have a drivers license, much less a car.

From the linked thread:
Basically, I've got a 1975 Ford 351W block, already bored out 30 over. It NEEDS to go 60, maybe I can get away with 40 or 50 over, because it was already built once, and I mean BUILT, as in 700hp. Connecting rods and internals cracked and landed in the oil pan. My dad says the block is shot and I'm better off getting a new one like a crate, as boring it out 60 over isn't really worth it. I plan on doing an entire engine swap for this Windsor.

From this thread:
that's why one [of] my 351's died after running 780hp. That was a nightmare.

So you built this 351? Or no?
 
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heh, I knew this thread would turn into Slashfan telling us Ford engines make gobs and gobs of power just with pouring some water into them. There's a reason people put small block Chevys into Mustangs, not just to be annoying.

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:lol:
 
Trolololo /thread.


400hp is more than enough. The guy is on a tight budget. Get out of this thread with your $5000+ engines.
 
Surviving for a quarter of a mile isn't what I call an engine. I call that a bomb with a 9 second timer. If an engine lasts less than 5,000 miles it's not suitable for street use. I suspect your 600hp 302-based engines will fall into this category....

edit: For the record, all of the entries I posted above were chosen simply because they were the most succinct, not because their information was in my favor. The fact is I did not see a single post claiming that a 302 can 'handle' 600hp. It's because they cannot. They can make that much power, but they will break.

I'm still waiting to see some engines you've built, as you claim you have. This thread not more than 10 months ago seems to indicate you don't even have a drivers license, much less a car.

From the linked thread:


From this thread:


So you built this 351? Or no?

Helped, yes. All I have left is the block though.
 
Trolololo /thread.


400hp is more than enough. The guy is on a tight budget. Get out of this thread with your $5000+ engines.

This. Money is tight ATM, especially since we just dumped $9000 on a new AC for the house (old one lost all the refrigerant somehow).


We're looking for something that gives a decent "oompfh", definitely not a stock motor and definitely not a $20,000 race engine. 400hp is a little overboard, thinking of more around 250-350hp. We aren't going to race it (or maybe not yet), just want a car that says "I'm here, I'm loud, and not afraid to show it".

And get the Corvette/LSx crap outta here. Ford is Ford, Chevy is Chevy - Ford =/= Chevy. Already seen a LSx powered '65 Coupe a local car show...just makes me puke :yuck:.
 
This. Money is tight ATM, especially since we just dumped $9000 on a new AC for the house (old one lost all the refrigerant somehow).


We're looking for something that gives a decent "oompfh", definitely not a stock motor and definitely not a $20,000 race engine. 400hp is a little overboard, thinking of more around 250-350hp. We aren't going to race it (or maybe not yet), just want a car that says "I'm here, I'm loud, and not afraid to show it".

And get the Corvette/LSx crap outta here. Ford is Ford, Chevy is Chevy - Ford =/= Chevy. Already seen a LSx powered '65 Coupe a local car show...just makes me puke :yuck:.



Alright, as we've said, cheap set of heads, headers, decent intake, 4 barrel carb and a mild cam and you'll have about 290-300 on the ground.
 
-Longtube-style headers [Hooker Competition]
-Heads [Ported E7 or GT40p is my recommendation]
-Intake [Weiand/Holley makes good stuff]
-Carb [600CFM, Holley or equivalent]
-Ignition [MSD 6AL]
-Electric Fan [Taurus or something similar, well worth it]
-3G Alternator [to run the fan properly]

Again, don't expect 300 to the ground, but you might be approaching that much at the flywheel.
 
-Longtube-style headers [Hooker Competition]
-Heads [Ported E7 or GT40p is my recommendation]
-Intake [Weiand/Holley makes good stuff]
-Carb [600CFM, Holley or equivalent]
-Ignition [MSD 6AL]
-Electric Fan [Taurus or something similar, well worth it]
-3G Alternator [to run the fan properly]

Again, don't expect 300 to the ground, but you might be approaching that much at the flywheel.

With ported E7/GT40/GT40P heads I'd say that sounds about right. For ignition I'd run a Blaster II Coil with the 6AL. 600cfm carb should be more than enough. You could do a power steering delete if you wanted but it might be hard to turn.
 
Unless something can be scavenged at a yard for dirt cheap, we're keeping the heads we have (the so-called HiPo heads).

I've heard recommendations of shaving the heads and putting in new valves, though I forgot what was said about the valves...larger ones? Smaller? Longer? Shorter? I think the old set (the unmatching pair) had 54ci (combustion chamber) and "new" set (the matching, so-called HiPo ones) has 60-65ci.

I don't exactly know what my dad wants...but it sounds like he wants to keep the ignition system as-is (though we don't have a distributer yet). Headers - definitely a yes. New pistons are a possibility (though maybe a necessity if the seller can't find the missing #5 piston). Cam - probably. Carb - probably. Intake - don't know. Electric fan - don't know. He did show some interest in an electric water pump after seeing a couple cars at car show with one. His plans though are, and I quote, "a car that doesn't look like a hot rod" and "is a sleeper".

Oh, he was also looking for a book that has info on building performance Ford small blocks (he says they exist...) - O'Rilley and PepBoys yielded no results.

What would you guys recommend on wheels? We were thinking Cragar, American Racing, etc. Something sort of classic/racey. What's recommended for tires?


And err...already have manual everything. Already locked the brakes today at an attempt to stop for a sudden yellow light (which failed)...made a decent 15ft skid at least.
 
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Larger combustion chambers have lower compression, therefore less performance. You want smaller combustion chambers. For the amount of money/effort that you would be putting in those E5 heads you could do much better. Just my opinion.

If you do end up using the stock heads, don't bother with a cam or intake. All it will do is shift the torque peak higher to a point where the engine isn't capable of breathing enough air to make good power. You will just lose torque and power instead of gaining it.

A stock 289 won't really rev past 5500rpm. Possibly less. With the factory cam and heads, the torque probably comes on at 2,000rpm so you have a nice 3,000rpm window of torque, 2,000-5500rpm. If you put in a high-lift cam, it will shift that torque peak. So instead of that 2,000rpm-5500rpm sweet spot, it will be more like 3,500rpm-6500/7000rpm. Which is great if the rest of your engine can cope with that. But with stock heads, you are still limited to 5,500rpm. So you are just narrowing your torque band in reality, with no increase in power nor torque. I've done this before, it was the worst mod I ever did to my Mustang. Now my friend's car had a full trick flow heads, cam, and intake package. His car came alive at 4,000rpm and didn't stop until 7,000. It was an animal.
 
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Yup. Basically, the main component around which you build an engine is the head/heads, because that determines the airflow capability of everything else. If you're gonna use the stock heads there is not much you can do, really.
 
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