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I am wondering and very curious if the " controller steering sensitivity " in the DRIVING OPTIONS make any difference on a wheel..

I've ask others. They say it does.. but i am still skeptical about this.

I am using a G27 at the moment, or any advice for best feed back, power steering assist ( on/off )


Please help and answer back PLEASE!
 
It won't make any difference, that option only applies if you use a DS3.

I have heard of this before, I tested it with my T500. I race with FFB set to 10 and power-steering off (those 2 other settings only apply to the ancient Logitech Driving Force Pro and EX wheels). I tried with sensitivity set to minimum, and then maximum, there is no difference in feel.
 
Azure Flare
It won't make any difference, that option only applies if you use a DS3.

I have heard of this before, I tested it with my T500. I race with FFB set to 10 and power-steering off (those 2 other settings only apply to the ancient Logitech Driving Force Pro and EX wheels). I tried with sensitivity set to minimum, and then maximum, there is no difference in feel.
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Thank you Azure! Appreciated.
 
I beg to differ, I had some trouble with the KTM coffee break, then I set my sensitivity to 7 on my DFGT and got it within a few minutes...
 
Driving aids make huge difference in that KTM mission. I shaved 2 seconds (of 40s lap) just by turning ASM on. Are you sure you only changed the controller sensitivity setting?
 
mr_lab_rat
Driving aids make huge difference in that KTM mission. I shaved 2 seconds (of 40s lap) just by turning ASM on. Are you sure you only changed the controller sensitivity setting?
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Yes, that is all I changed, I do not use ASM. Like I said, I felt a difference in response especially in the first part of the mission, the slalom. All I changed was the sensitivity. It felt like the car responded quicker to my inputs. As previously mentioned, it could be the placebo effect. Have a go at it and tell me what you feel.
 
DeifieD
Yes, that is all I changed, I do not use ASM. Like I said, I felt a difference in response especially in the first part of the mission, the slalom. All I changed was the sensitivity. It felt like the car responded quicker to my inputs. As previously mentioned, it could be the placebo effect. Have a go at it and tell me what you feel.
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Here's an experiment for you; get a willing assistant and pick any car or track you like. Set the sensitivity at 5 (default) to begin with and drive. Then ask your assistant to change to a new sensitivity, but while you're not in the room or not looking. Come back after they're done and drive again. Your job is to guess whether it is either default, higher than default or lower than default. But there is a catch. The assistant may deliberately choose to not change it but make it seem that he did change it so you have no idea on whether it has changed or not, or if it has been changed whether it is higher or lower than default.

The outcome would confirm if it is DS3 only or if it has a minor effect for wheels too.
 
MSTER232
Here's an experiment for you; get a willing assistant and pick any car or track you like. Set the sensitivity at 5 (default) to begin with and drive. Then ask your assistant to change to a new sensitivity, but while you're not in the room or not looking. Come back after they're done and drive again. Your job is to guess whether it is either default, higher than default or lower than default. But there is a catch. The assistant may deliberately choose to not change it but make it seem that he did change it so you have no idea on whether it has changed or not, or if it has been changed whether it is higher or lower than default.

The outcome would confirm if it is DS3 only or if it has a minor effect for wheels too.
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I'm not sure if we're talking about the same setting then, because default is 0 on the one I'm talking about. It goes from -2 to +7, 0 being the default. The setting I'm talking about is located in the driving options menu, before you start a race or event.

As far as your experiment goes, I don't need to involve anyone else. I can go and compare the 2 extremes, -2 and +7. Have you gone and done the same?

I'm not trying to argue with you, I'm just telling you what I experienced in that particular event.

Directly from the manual:

"Controller Steering Sensitivity
Adjust the movement speed and sensitivity of the front wheels in response to steering input from the directional buttons or stick. A smaller value will result in slower movement and smoother steering control. A larger value will result in quicker and more responsive steering. Adjusting this value will allow you to find a level of sensitivity that fits your playing style."

That would suggest it applies to DS3 only. However there is a chance that the programming of this feature could have a bug and apply to wheels too. That and the placebo effect are the 2 only possible explanations. I will test this next time I play, as now it has me very interested....
 
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Yes, this is my post and has me very interested and curious.... But still does it have ANY effect on wheel.. They guy on 2nd comment says it does not apply to a G27..
 
TAkEoFF_420
Yes, this is my post and has me very interested and curious.... But still does it have ANY effect on wheel.. They guy on 2nd comment says it does not apply to a G27..
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Go into the KTM coffee break and try -2 and +7 setting, post back with your opinion.
 
DeifieD
Go into the KTM coffee break and try -2 and +7 setting, post back with your opinion.
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We'll, I've tried this theory online in a race of hot laps.. I turn it down towards -2 , from +7 I had got a smoother feel and a way better lap time.. And help me race without ABS, I feel like it applies for a wheel also, but I AM STILL SKEPTICAL.

I JUST WANT TO HEAR FROM OTHER TO BELIEVE THIS WORKS.
 
TAkEoFF_420
We'll, I've tried this theory online in a race of hot laps.. I turn it down towards -2 , from +7 I had got a smoother feel and a way better lap time.. And help me race without ABS, I feel like it applies for a wheel also, but I AM STILL SKEPTICAL.

I JUST WANT TO HEAR FROM OTHER TO BELIEVE THIS WORKS.
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I'm skeptical too, the only official answer would be from PD, the rest is our personal opinions based on our experiences. Normally I do not move that setting from 0, that KTM coffee break has such tight turns though and the need to go from left to right quickly, so it's a good course to test the theory on. I doubt I'll have the chance before Saturday to give it a go, but I'll try to remember and post back here after I do. Keep in mind I'm also on a DFGT and not a G27, maybe that has something to do with it.

It might be a good idea to change the thread title to reflect the specifics you seek as far as sensitivity settings, it might attract more input from others.
 
@TAkEoFF_420, changing the controller sensitivity does have a major impact on how the wheel reacts. Even though its a wheel, its still a modeled controller. Pending on your driving style the change may or may not work.
 
I suggested the KTM coffee break challenge due to the required tightness of the course and the relatively quick reactions of the KTM.

@bluecharger yeah, I have both of those, I'm somewhat of an obsessive collector.

Edit: I might not have the "Mercededes" j/k
 
DeifieD
I suggested the KTM coffee break challenge due to the required tightness of the course and the relatively quick reactions of the KTM.

@bluecharger yeah, I have both of those, I'm somewhat of an obsessive collector.

Edit: I might not have the "Mercededes" j/k
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EDIT: NM, I said the right car I was thinking of.
 
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DeifieD
I'm not sure if we're talking about the same setting then, because default is 0 on the one I'm talking about. It goes from -2 to +7, 0 being the default. The setting I'm talking about is located in the driving options menu, before you start a race or event.

As far as your experiment goes, I don't need to involve anyone else. I can go and compare the 2 extremes, -2 and +7. Have you gone and done the same?

I'm not trying to argue with you, I'm just telling you what I experienced in that particular event.

Directly from the manual:

"Controller Steering Sensitivity
Adjust the movement speed and sensitivity of the front wheels in response to steering input from the directional buttons or stick. A smaller value will result in slower movement and smoother steering control. A larger value will result in quicker and more responsive steering. Adjusting this value will allow you to find a level of sensitivity that fits your playing style."

That would suggest it applies to DS3 only. However there is a chance that the programming of this feature could have a bug and apply to wheels too. That and the placebo effect are the 2 only possible explanations. I will test this next time I play, as now it has me very interested....
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I thought it was on a scale of 0 to 10, that was a mistake. In order to avoid the placebo effect, you'd need someone else to "change" the sensitivity if they want to at will without you knowing what value they've changed it to or whether they've changed it at all. If there really is a difference, then once the assistance has progressed from one extreme (-2) to the other (+7), you will notice an actual change.
 
MSTER232
I thought it was on a scale of 0 to 10, that was a mistake. In order to avoid the placebo effect, you'd need someone else to "change" the sensitivity if they want to at will without you knowing what value they've changed it to or whether they've changed it at all. If there really is a difference, then once the assistance has progressed from one extreme (-2) to the other (+7), you will notice an actual change.
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We are not running a sophisticated scientific experiment here. If there is a difference between the two extremes, I can actually test this myself. Steering input can be tested quite easily by seeing how the car reacts to extreme left and right inputs (such as a slalom). I took it at face value at the time I passed the KTM event, meaning that I saw a difference and it helped me get gold in that event. I will go back and run my own tests to determine if there is a difference. Since I'm skeptical of both theories, and unsure which is true, I'm somewhat unbiased and will try several times with different setting to determine my position on the issue.

You haven't stated if you tried the KTM event as I suggested, also you were talking about numbers that don't appear in the settings slider we are discussing. Is it possible you are confusing the sensitivity slider with another setting slider? (Not trying to be rude, just wondering)
 
DeifieD
You haven't stated if you tried the KTM event as I suggested, also you were talking about numbers that don't appear in the settings slider we are discussing. Is it possible you are confusing the sensitivity slider with another setting slider? (Not trying to be rude, just wondering)
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I was thinking of a different slider in the game, sorry. I'm about to give this a go, and see if I can tell a difference.

EDIT: I can confirm there's no noticable difference with my wheel.
 
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MSTER232
I was thinking of a different slider in the game, sorry. I'm about to give this a go, and see if I can tell a difference.

EDIT: I can confirm there's no noticable difference with my wheel.
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Just wondering how you came to this conclusion, which track, which car?
 

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