RedBull X1

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1. Tires that can grip well enough to handle 8g's and 500km/h
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What enables this car to get 8g's of lateral acceleration is not really because it uses unrealisticly grippy tires, its because of the sheer amount of downforce generated by the thing.
 
I read a comment from someone saying, ''the faster this car goes the more grip it has, how unrealistic is that?''

I guess they havn't heard of the word downforce.lol. A formula one car doesn't do 60 mph bends very well at all compared to doing 140mph bends. One of the cleverest race engineers ever has helped design this car, i'd love to see it being made to see what it really is capable of. An F1 car today is held back by so many regulations.

Cheers Grayson:) Trust me the more people drive this thing the more they will realise its do able. Heck i didn't even do anywhere near perfect laps but i got it round.
 
I read several posts in this thread talking about the X1 Challenge being difficult and barely achievable at bronze level. I couldn't agree more, but to my surprise yesterday, a friend of mine "golded" all three tracks with the controller. I won't know for sure unless I come over his house or something, but I've always known him as a DS3 user. So technically, it's not impossible if this is true. When I asked him, he told me he got motivated from me, but I had to switch to the wheel to achieve gold so nothing amazing there. He basically just showed me up.
 
The X1 gives me a headache, its too fast and too crazy, you learn to drive it and it gives you horrible bad habbits when driving other cars after it, though i still like it more than the FGT. The X1 has its place but its ridiculous that they banned the usage of the Ferrari F1 cars in A-Spec (Which i hear are lovely to drive, not bought one yet), while still allowing you to use the X1 in those same events.
 
Destinkeys
We can already build planes that can't be flown by a human. It's not that the technology to build it might exist, on paper (I'm still interested in tires that can handle 8g for a race, though), but whether anybody could withstand the punishment of driving it, or race organizers that might be concerned about spectator safety should the fan engine blow (but, this being science fiction, 100% reliable engines should be a given, shouldn't they?) and the downforce disappear suddenly.

Indy cars are already pushing the limits of what drivers can endure in turns, and blackouts and neck injuries are causing the tracks to be modified and cars limited. The X1 ratchets these problems up another order of magnitude. This is sci-fi, pure and simple. Until we breed a better, faster, more powerful human being, able to leap tall buildings in a single bound, faster than a speeding bullet.... Hold on! THAT'S sci-fi, too!

Reality? Epic fail! :crazy:
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I'm sorry, but are you saying that the car isn't possible because a human would not be able to drive it to its limit?

Just because a human can't drive it does NOT mean the car itself isn't possible.
Human does NOT equal car.
 
I don't think it ruins the game or makes you a cheater. Just means you're going to win by a lot more if you can master the car.

"It don't matter if you win by an inch or a mile, winnings winning!" - Vin Diesel in The Fast and the Furious.
 
I would like to just say that I consider the X1 sort of a trophy in and of itself. Here is this car that is so powerful that it's even far away from the original top of the tree, the Formula GT, and you've proven you can rein it in, so here you go, have fun with it. Here is a car so ridiculously fast and agile that you have to develop a brand new driving style just to attune yourself to the thing, and by and away designed so that the only thing that can possibly compete with it is another X1.

Even then, the physics for the car surprisingly line up (high downforce generation in a very aerodynamic closed-cockpit body, supplemented by suction on the car's underbody) although the driver would need a G-suit and there would need to be a quantum leap in tire technology not for the tires to grip, but for the tires to last more than a couple minutes routinely punching through 400 km/h and pulling almost 9 lateral Gs without just exploding and forcing the X1 to ride on rims, but we don't worry about that in Gran Turismo so that's kind of irrelevant and the kind of complaining that people who hate the X1 with a passion would be doing, and I really like the X1.

But even if you only receive it by getting up to lv 35 or buying it at lv 40, it proves something: it proves you've got the dedication to play GT5 that long, and that dedication needs rewarding. That justifies the X1, I think. Besides, I have to like it because it manages to top the Formula GT as the "ultimate car" in the Gran Turismo series. And the ultimate of anything deserves to be experienced: thus the X1 deserves to be driven.

That being said, not everybody has X1s online or wants to drive their X1 online, which means anyone who shows up with an X1 online is kind of unable to win any moral arguments. If (s)he just wants to show off this car he's either a cheat or a braggart, apparently. I somehow think that there should be competitions online purely for X1 drivers so nobody whines when X1s are being used online (like how I want competitions purely for the 10 Prestige bastards in MW2 who camp all day long inside a porta-potty and win games via Tactical Nukes at the expense of pretty much everybody else playing). You know, like the Formula GT World Championship, but in fast forward.

X1 World Championship? X1 Online Series? It could set a new standard in competition there, a bit like an online mini-endurance series: a race that, perhaps, goes on for an hour or two, as long as a full F1 race or something, except that time would be even more exhausting because the challenge is now to do this with a car that demands so much from the driver that it almost wants...a sort of individual that's half-Stig, half-supercomputer. Allow me to wonder.
 
Those drivers who can't stay up with this beast, means they're not better than sebastian vettel. You have to have to beat the crash kid!
 
Kevin****Theory
Those drivers who can't stay up with this beast, means they're not better than sebastian vettel. You have to have to beat the crash kid!
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Why would I care beating the world champion of F1!? PD should make it easier and more enjoyable, dumbasses xp.
 
I had the weirdest sensation driving that car around Monza to try to bronze this thing...I feel like flying an airplane....the speed the car is capable of doing is comical to see, sure it might have some ground in reality, but even compare to F1 cars of today it's barely believable, and F1 cars are already defying belief when seen in-person.

Still struggling with it on N-ring GP and Suzuka, I just feel like I can't physically keep up...
 
Destinkeys
We can already build planes that can't be flown by a human. It's not that the technology to build it might exist, on paper (I'm still interested in tires that can handle 8g for a race, though), but whether anybody could withstand the punishment of driving it, or race organizers that might be concerned about spectator safety should the fan engine blow (but, this being science fiction, 100% reliable engines should be a given, shouldn't they?) and the downforce disappear suddenly.

Indy cars are already pushing the limits of what drivers can endure in turns, and blackouts and neck injuries are causing the tracks to be modified and cars limited. The X1 ratchets these problems up another order of magnitude. This is sci-fi, pure and simple. Until we breed a better, faster, more powerful human being, able to leap tall buildings in a single bound, faster than a speeding bullet.... Hold on! THAT'S sci-fi, too!

Reality? Epic fail! :crazy:
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Humans can endure a lot more than 8g when wearing pressurised suits. If someone wanted to drive the X2010, it could be done with today's technology.
 
Fortress_Anfiel
Humans can endure a lot more than 8g when wearing pressurised suits. If someone wanted to drive the X2010, it could be done with today's technology.
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Not sustained and certainly not necessarily in the way that a car is being loaded. Pilots still only takes + vertical Gs(the plane banks into turns). The G suit squeeze their leg to force the heart to pump blood in their brain so they don't go G-LOC. But in a car with lateral G and longitudinal its your head and neck being subject to this for and your are fighting that while you are inputting steering force. There is a limit as to how long your neck can hold out and brain can be tossed around in the skull...

Even with G-suit on the pilot still can only tolerate very little amount of - vertical G as human red-out much quicker...
 
I got 3 Redbull X2010, I spent 20 million to buy it at the dealer because I thought besides the challenge, there's no other way to get the car... I regret it so much. The 2nd one I got from reaching level 35 B-spec.... and the last one I traded a Chapperal 2J race car for it. I gave one to my friend and I'll just saved the other 2 and hopefully I can trade for some cool cars in the furute but seeing how everyone is duping cars, I think the X2010 may be worthless now.
 
This car is insane. Watching Bob race it is like watching a race in fast forward simply because he does laps in half the time as any of the other cars and takes corners at 250mph that would normally be taken at 150.
 
With the use of a G-Suit it may be drivable by a human but not on most current tracks. The s-section at Tokyo, for instance, is pure insanity. Very few current tracks can handle a car like this. Only tracks like Indy Daytona, LeMans, and etc.; big open sweeping tracks suit it more. The other problem is looking far enough ahead. You will need spotters in almost every corner, heads up displays in the helmet, and it's almost to the point of needing radar of some sort. On average you're going 340+feet per second. The ammount of information the drivers will have to process is staggering. F-1 would be come a true test of the best drivers on the planet at that point. In the current state of motorsports, globaly, this car would bring back 40's-60's era Grand Prix racing romantics, the risks will out weight the benefits 10 fold.
 
Well, also, the tires of the X1 are impossibly resilliant. If a normal car made corners as fast as the X1, it'd have no tires after a few laps. The X1's tires last just as long as the tires of other cars. I mean, you'd need a tire that can withstand 8Gs.
 
I don't understand why the X2010 is so hard to handle at high speeds on a straight line. Sure, it's fast, but it's not *that* much faster than the FGT. The wheel-driven land speed record is some insane 460-470mph or 740-760kph. Isn't the X2010 supposed to be the ultimate race car? I don't want it or need it to be faster, but shouldn't it be more stable at high speeds?
 
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The X1 is very stable at high speeds, in my experiences at least. Just an assumption, if you tested it at Le Sarthe the problem is that the track is very bumpy, for any car, especially one with suspension as firm as the X1's. If not then just ignore that.

Also, even though there are many land vehicles faster than the theoretical X1 they were all for a single purpose, To go fast in a straight line. Just look at the current record holder, the Thrust SSC. I highly doubt that would outpace the X1 around any track. The beauty of the X1's design is that it is the ultimate race car, to go around tracks. It wasn't designed to be the fastest land vehicle.
 
I think the x1 is great. It's really rewarding to pull off some great laps with the car and to beat other x1 owners online. It's also good for making endurance races less tedious. There is a bit of an adjustment period once you switch to other cars, but by no means does it ruin the game or make it worse at all.
 
My friend gifted me the X1/X2010. I drove it for about 5 laps and never picked it up again. How does GT claim to be the "Ultimate Driving Simulator" yet it has numerous cartoony jumps and the X1?
 
The X1 is a nice car to have in your garage for those times when you need to rip off a few races to get some credits for a purchase. I got mine yesterday, finally! :dopey: Going to use it to finish the B-Spec LeMans (want that GT one). Other than that, it is a nice trophy, but I'd much rather drive one of my racecars or a Lotus!
 
Finally got one.....the car is comically fast, I have bob driving it and watching via the cockpit cam..I dont think I can drive this car it looks like the game is even struggling to keep up with how fast the car is going. I think my contacts dried up watching the thing zip around the track. Still think its very neat.
 
Yeah, the cockpit cam with Bob is pretty funny. It literally looks like the game is in fast forward. Just imagine how fast it'll be actually IN fast forward. Craziness. But, try to keep them in racing tires as much as possible. Especially in the rain. I had a bob average aroun 60mph around Nurburgring 24hour 'cause I had him on sport tires.
 
superb16
My friend gifted me the X1/X2010. I drove it for about 5 laps and never picked it up again. How does GT claim to be the "Ultimate Driving Simulator" yet it has numerous cartoony jumps and the X1?
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What's unrealistic about the X1?
 
FGT is much more fun IMO, not sure why, I just like it a whole lot more. Granted I haven't spent long with the X1 yet.
 
I sort of like driving the car. When I'm not pressured by the times for the S. Vettel Challenge, then it can be a great car. On the other hand however, it's not so fun when your trying to beat the times for it. (Just to let you know, I unlocked the S.Vettel Challenge today, and it is HARD. I tried Monza at least 30 times and I always get disqualified. Mainly because I don't have the skills to actually drive it fast enough to get at least bronze or silver.)
 
i got it today (the right way), golded monza after an hour, then bronzed nurburgring in half an hour and suzuka in 15 minutes, once you understand the capabilities of the car it's really easy to drive, i love how it looks but i think it has too much grip to be a fun car to drive
 
FanBoy08
I sort of like driving the car. When I'm not pressured by the times for the S. Vettel Challenge, then it can be a great car. On the other hand however, it's not so fun when your trying to beat the times for it. (Just to let you know, I unlocked the S.Vettel Challenge today, and it is HARD. I tried Monza at least 30 times and I always get disqualified. Mainly because I don't have the skills to actually drive it fast enough to get at least bronze or silver.)
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Same here I just unlocked it, tried Monza first, I was perplexed, it requires tons of concentration, my first complete lap was a 1:10 I think.About how it drives, not that it is a bad car its the same as the FGT or say the Minolta, its to fast for me to enjoy, maybe after some practice I start to like them (hopefully), driving a slower and less powerful is much better in the fun aspect, especially online.
 

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