Return of Nissan's Godzilla

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The GT-R is coming back and it will bear a close resemblance to its dramatic concept model. Nissan design chief Shiro Nakamura has confirmed the close connection between the upcoming production model and the GT-R Proto revealed at last year's Tokyo Motor Show. "It is 90 per cent what it will look like," Nakamura says. "The production version will not have some things such as the carbon fibre at the front, but it is very similar."

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"The new 350kW-plus GT-R supercar will go on sale in Japan next year and roll into American showrooms in 2008. Nissan Australia has put its hand up for the GT-R and is likely to import the car from 2008 if it is made available for the right price.
Previous GT-Rs, called Godzilla because of their racing domination, were based on the regular Skyline model. But Nakamura confirms the new GT-R will be a stand-alone model.

"This car has nothing in common with Skyline, not even the door handles and gauges," Nakamura says. "It doesn't share anything with any Nissan car."
In Australia to speak at a design conference last week, Nakamura says the new model maintains the hard edges of previous GT-R models.
"The original C10 Skyline in the 1960s was very boxy, also R32 and last R34 were very boxy. We intend to make this car boxy. We could have made this car soft and sophisticated, but the spirit is rather rough. It is not like a Porsche or a Ferrari.

"This design is completely stand-alone, we don't care about any trend with the design." The basic shape of the GT-R was first revealed in 2001 at the Tokyo Motor Show after the previous model was phased out due to emission restrictions.
The supercar has been a long time coming, but Nakamura says it will be worth the wait.
"This car is much more high performance than the previous model. It was already considered a high-performance car, but we wanted this car to go one or two levels higher," he says.
Nakamura confirmed countless visits to wind tunnels to ensure
the GT-R looks good and has the aerodynamics to enable stable driving at top speed.
"We have had a very long development time, we don't want to rush to bring it to you," he says.
Nakamura says he has just finished the initial design of the next-generation 350Z which is not due until at least 2009.
He says the next Zed has a unique shape and will not share any design themes with the GT-R.
* Meanwhile, Nissan has been forced to change its marketing campaign for the poorly selling and poorly named Tiida small car.
It has begun new advertisements explaining that the car is the replacement for the once-popular Pulsar.
Gone are the initial series of ads featuring Sex and the City star Kim Cattrall espousing the sexy nature of the car.
However, Nissan says it will still use Cattrall in future campaigns.


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-The Daily Telegraph
 
I for one like this...even when I saw the prototype...

I want one! Does anyone have some official specs on this?
 
all i know for fact, thats its gonna acutally use V6 layout, twin-turbo, rear wheel drive, and retail in australia in 2008, summer, for more than $150,000.
Not sure bout U.S, might be retailed by Infinity. And lastly, the GTR, will proberly be in same league as Porsche GT2, if not lower class. So its worth flopping out all that cash to beat a Porsche, but best, to see what aftermarket industry can do to this car.....
 
and insider info from Nissan on other forum said that it'll be awd with 7-speed flappypaddle 'box..
 
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all i know for fact, thats its gonna acutally use V6 layout, twin-turbo, rear wheel drive, and retail in australia in 2008, summer, for more than $150,000.
Not sure bout U.S, might be retailed by Infinity. And lastly, the GTR, will proberly be in same league as Porsche GT2, if not lower class. So its worth flopping out all that cash to beat a Porsche, but best, to see what aftermarket industry can do to this car.....
You know that for a FACT right, I don't know if they've announced it will use a V6 or V8 yet and it is likey going to be twin turbo and use a 7 speed transmission, but they're also planing on using a more advanced 4WD system from the ATESSA one used in the R34 GT-R, the GT-R will not be rwd. And finally, Nissan confirmed ages ago that it would be a Nissan everywhere, not an Inifiniti. I don't think the new engine will be as easilly tunable as the old one, but we'll certainly still see them being tuned.
 
Pretty much all details are in the air, untill the car has reached production model. They can change what ever they want untill then.

Theres been quite a few threads made on this GTR including a sticky thread.
 
Porsches are among the most driver focused and involving car's out there, in what way are they soft? Sophisticated, yes the technology is a Porsche is superb, but they arn't soft.
 
I think soft was pointed towards the body design, not how it will be to drive. And in a desingperspective, Porsches are soft!

I like the design of the GT-R, and it will probably be a great car overall.
 
Modern Porsche compared to Old School Porsches, they are soft indeed, just ask anyone who has owned several 911's through the years, the new ones are so good they're boring.


This will be cool to have out, I'm placing my bets on 450-500 Hp, AWD, 3500-3800 Lbs, Twin Turbo 3.5-3.7 V-6, with the engine shoved back some to try and get something like a 50/50 weight distribution, and maybe it will actually slip under 3500 lbs, depending on how much Lotus was able to do.


Lotus doesn't just do wonders with suspension, they also hate pork.
 
So good they're boring, sorry I have to dissagree with that, just what Porsche owner has said their 996 is boring or their 997 is boring? What review hasn't highly praised the way they drive? I've never driven one myself, but I do know owners, and they do not find them boring. Also the higher end performance ones like the GT3 are incredibly diffcult on the limit for lesser skilled drivers so that's certainly not nannying soft.
 
I talk with people who have interesting cars all the time.

Any time I catch one getting in or out of one, in fact.

I've noticed that all of the older guys, who have new 911's, and have had several before, comment about how they miss the edge of the older cars, how not just anyone could hop into it and drive it well, how they were exclusive not because they were expensive, but because they were dangerous.

Then there is that magazine writer, I think it might have been Top Gear, or Car, that commented how people are scared to bring up the 911's flaws, like it's front end bob and weave, or the fact that the rear seats are best restricted to children or groceries, or that they keep getting heavier with each generation, because it's just an accepted rule that you do not badmouth the 911.
 
Right, back to the GTR then: Yeah, I'm not the biggest GTR fan, but I do give credit where credit is due, and this car is looking to be quite the monster when it finally hits the US in CALLENDAR YEAR 2008 (check the website, Nissanusa.com).

If the rumors are true, they have been saying we are looking at the updated VQ35 V6 with twin-turbochargers pushing out somewhere in the neighborhood of 450HP being put to the ground by either RWD or AWD (neither has been confirmed or denied, although I speculate AWD will be the standard issue.) Prices in the US have been rumored to START at $70,000, making the car $40K more than a base 350Z.

My early views on the car: With the growing push twards higher and higher performance cars from each automaker, the GTR is going to be floating in a sea of other hot rides. Adding to that equation is the price, that will push the car closer to the moster Corvette Z06, Porsche 911, Dodge Viper SRT-10, etc. These are all high-performance Gods of the automotive world, and Nissan will have to do a lot to out perform them. Not that I doubt that they cannot do it, but it would surely be a dissapointment if the car cannot match that of a 911 Carrera S or Corvette Z51 (cheaper, less power, as fast as the Carrera S).

I suppose it is a case of "we will see," and while I am confident that the car will indeed be fast and something that will be near the top of most kids' "Most Wanted" lists, they still need to prove to everyone else that it is a performer. Simply put, the younger Playstation Generation that made the car famous cannot simply go out and buy one, thus the older folks will have to be convinced that they should.
 
Screw this GT-R that 95% of America won't buy. The front of this new GT-R is hideous in my opinion. And I'm quite sure the Americans that have $70k to spend on a sports car will either buy a C6 and save $20k, spend about the same on the ZO6, or spend an extra $10k and get a Porsche.

I'm more interested in this:
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Nakamura says he has just finished the initial design of the next-generation 350Z which is not due until at least 2009.
 
live4speed
So good they're boring, sorry I have to dissagree with that, just what Porsche owner has said their 996 is boring or their 997 is boring? What review hasn't highly praised the way they drive?

EVO magazine's first drive of the 997 used the words "boringly perfect."

I think you're minuderstanding the term. It's perfect. It is a perfect car, that got a perfect 5/5 stars. It's boringly perfect because there are no flaws to write about, there aren't any flaws you have to avoid while driving the car, that's how good it is.
 
Exactly, it's so "blah blah blah" and it "blah blah blah's" so "blah blah" that it makes you wonder why one would get any other car, it "blah blah blah" etc, etc, etc.

Yes, they are great cars.

I would never want one, give me a 1974 Turbo, or any model up to the 993 any day.
 
WTF are you guys going all off topic for?

Porche's lines on all of their cars are soft. Soft means round and fluid, whereas the skyline has always been more Hard, or jagged/boxy.

What is the big deal?
 
Omnis
WTF are you guys going all off topic for?

Porche's lines on all of their cars are soft. Soft means round and fluid, whereas the skyline has always been more Hard, or jagged/boxy.

What is the big deal?

Sure thing, sir.

We are questioning the comments of the main designer of the car. This GTR's exterior design is still far from soft or sophisticated.
 
I don't see anything wrong with the comment in the article either. Ferraris, Porsches do have softer, more sophisticated design. Skylines/GT-Rs has been boxy. Just different approach, he's not insulting anybody.
 
350 KW screams 100 large supercar. thus, pricing it out of the hands of anyone but MUCHO rich enthusiasts...cause it also screams 2000 a year insurance rates for guys with 50 years of driving under their belts *shakes head*

drop the Porsche thing. argue about the variations all you want. it's a car that guys like me can't afford to LOOK at.
 
They will sell the cars by the ass-load, don't worry. There are plenty of GTR fanboys out there to pick them up, and plenty of them have enough money to foot the $70K bill.

Unless this thing is an absolute screamer, I dont see any reason as to why you would want to spend $70K on this when you can get a Z06 for LESS, a 911 or SRT-10 for just a few bucks more, or hell... Cayman, Exige, Atom, etc.
 
I have a feeling that 450 Hp won't be enough for Nissan.

Hell, you can get a Mustang for $40k with more than that now.

A normal Corvette almost makes that, and the "normal" Camaro will too.

I'm betting they will kiss the 500 Hp mark, and they can do some awesome things with that ATTESSA system, so that will definitely be in so they can brag about the 3 something second 0-60 run.

$70k is an awful lot though, especially if it's just 450 Hp and winds up weighing more than 3500 lbs.
 
The keyword for the car to be fast is going to be "LIGHT." The Lamborghini Gallarado has more than 450HP these days and still has yet to break 4.0 sec 0-60 even in the hands of the Car and Driver guys, who always get faster times than everyone else. The combination of AWD and either a crappy clutch or that God-forsaken E-Gear seems to have sealed the casket on that mission, but even then the car is still too heavy.

The R34 may have been a marvel of modern engineering, but I'm not so sure about the "R35." I'm setting my bechmark for the car at the Corvette Z51, which is probably shooting just a bit low, but it is a safe shot nevertheless. The car will be a handeling monster, no questions there. If they can keep the weight down even with AWD, the car will be a rocket. But given Nissan's record as of late, Z51 it is...
 
Again, they apparently spent quite a bit of time with Lotus.

If they forgo making it super luxurious, and strip it down, leaving the luxury to Infiniti, it could be a hell of a car, sub 3500 lbs, AWD, and 450+ Hp would be very competitive.
 
with Lotus AND Cosworth, that is. lotus is working on suspension and chassis, and Cosworth is putting their magic under the hood.
 
996 GT3 RS 7:40 'ring time, 380hp.

I think a 450hp skyline will do just fine. The emphasis is on handling rather than 1/4 mile figures.

Cosworth make brilliant engines, back when audi owned them they made the RS6 engine.
 
Yeah, the emphasis will be on making it handle well.

Nonetheless, if it follows the latest trend of cars being porkier than their previous generations, it will be one of those cars that it's fanboys drool over, and everyone else asks "what's the point, when I could get ________ for less and go just as fast/faster?"
 
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