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I figured it's about time I actually make a thread about this highly popular topic concerning "rice" cars. I'm awfully sick of hearing that word on GTPlanet. And of course, I've been sick of hearing that in my AOL Chatting days. I think I'm going to start with a bit of personal background on me, then get to the topic at hand. By the way, this WILL be a long introduction, so b*tch about me on that later. Okay, let's do this.

I'm so linear to these modded cars because first and foremost, I still think they are cars no matter what sportscar and muscle car enthusiasts daresay. I don't think these tuner cars will win any road races or drag races against powerful machinery. Some people like to think the intended demographic are Asians with Japanese or even Korean cars. In actuality, anyone into something fun to drive and is cheap on wallets will probably pick up on these cars. Some see cars as a way to get from Point A to Point B. Others see them as pieces of art, looking to be perceived and awed by the public. If you ask me, my interest in cars has mostly shifted to the sport compact and tuner market, but I am still heavily into classic American cars, American classics of our day, the most extravagant European sportscars, the Japanese beasts Americans have to basically import, those Australian cars with the sweet styling, even a supercar in the African country of Morocco (spelled right?). I mean, I'm actually not turned on about horsepower or top speed. I like people who are comfortable with the cars they drive, no matter what anyone says about them. For example, I HATE Saturns, but that Red Line is turning out to be a tuner favorite, and I have no problem with that. I don't know if enthusiasts dislike tuner cars because people try to make them LOOK faster than what's under the hood, because stickers and decals do not add horsepower, because their bodykits and bolt-ons are nothing compared to a Chevy crate motor with 700hp (most likely for the drag strip) and stock appearance, or what. I'll tell you what, and this may offend some people, but if you are a CAR enthusiast, that means you respect most every car no matter what intentions the owner has. So if you dislike these cars, ARE you a real car enthusiast? Doesn't sound like it from where I'm sitting.

I've basically "grown up" getting into these tuner cars because I am an art person. So I have my own views about neon lights, chrome wheels, aftermarket brakes, bodykits, and of course, rear wings. I don't really like neon underlighting, and some bodykits take the race car look a little too far. A little too far in terms of having way too many lines (like the 2000-ish Pontiac Bonneville, or MAYBE the 2000-ish Mitsubishi Eclipse), or looking too aggressive to the point where it is more ugly than attention grabbing. And just because a dirty VW Jetta has a touring car wing on the back doesn't mean it is a "ricer." And it doesn't mean the car has been killed. You wouldn't want someone doing that to a C5 Corvette, so why say that it also sucks for a sport compact or import? One person said that he likes Hummers and calls Hondas and Toyotas "junk." And I still can't get over people saying: "we don't make our cars with chopsticks," or "isn't the Toyota Supra an expensive piece of junk?" Like I said, not all cars are built to take on the 1/4 mile. Did the Mini ever win any drag races against muslce cars? Can the Lamborghini Gallardo smoke a Mustang on the strip? No and no (or prove me wrong). As I've said, people with these cars don't have to rule Pomona or Talladega. If I had a car, I don't care if I get bashed on for having a car that's more show than go. If a person wants his/her car to be that way, then damn it, let them. Since when did all non-American small cars have to be 11 or 12 second street cars? I say that for the people who want to tune to look like race cars, one day you may have to prove your car can still perform, but if you want it to look nice, go for it. You own your car, you do whatever you want to it.

Reply now about either why "ricers" get dissed on, or anything like that. And remember, this does not have to be a bashing session on me. I have my own thoughts, be good or bad. I am human as you are, so limit the "I'm starting to hate you, John," comments to a minimum.
 
:rolleyes:

When you see John post, you know it will be long. In fact, everyone, in just about every post has mentioned it. Everyone should get used to it, and either read the damn thing (heaven forbid) or just not post.

As far as the topic goes... We all have our own little opinions, some more subtle than others. When I got different wheels, rebaged and replaced the exhaust (almost the same size piping, just a lot more subtle tip) it felt great to have everything I didn't like about the car fixed. All appearance. Other things I just find tacky. Like one set of huge wheels/small tires on the rear wheels and stockers up front of every Honda in front of a neighbor's house. Or unpainted body kits.
 
I only use the word because everyone knows generally what it means. I'd call them whatever else if other people understood. I could call them Beans with thier Beaner drivers or whatever. I get tired of the word tired. It's so bleh.
 
I'd call the author of this topic a sadistic, sodomistic necrophile, but that's beating a dead horse.
 
and John most of your topics are the same thing, just different words. Your just a post whore who types more then just 2 words.
 
I hate rice boys, but overall I hate posers. (Ricers are just a catagory of posers)

Heres my view on it. It does not matter what race the person is or what brand of car he drives. I hate people pretending they are something they are not, both in the car world, on the internet, and in person. A persons car is a reflection of there personality, especially if they customise it. You are bragging that you are something you are not if you put a type-R badge on your car if its just a POS Civic. I hate it when a stock rustang pulls up to me and revs with his cowl with nothing to back it up. These are the people who want the glamor of having a fast car, with out having to do any of the real work behind it. I do not mind neon lights, lowriders, choptops, hell even awesome paint jobs are cool. It is when someone tries to make their car look like a race car, and when they think it is fast. It is like bragging about something that you did not do, or saying you have something you do not.

Wow, I was ranting.
 
I hate it when people just use the term 'rice' for any modified car.

"Fast And Furious is rice.."
"A BMW with a Reiger kit is rice" (!)

Etc. I just hate people that worship American cars so much that they're blinded by anything slightly different.

I hate the fact then when i buy a car and modify it, people will say it's rice, whether it is or isn't.

So what's rice imo?

I think rice is really a misused term. It should be imo used for cars with huge japanese bodykits (not aerokits - and no they're not the same thing) that weigh more than the standard bodywork, rediculous wings and huge performance altering rims.

Of course it's hard to tell people not to use the term rice wrongly as it means different things to different people. But... imho...

"Rice should not be a term just thrown around for any modified car."
 
I just use rice as a general term for hopped up Japanese cars. For me, its a way to differentiate between muscle cars and non muscle cars or whatever. For me, there's good rice - which includes tasteful exterior modding (tasteful to me at least) and tuning. There is also bad rice - which to me means excessive exterior modding to the point of looking rediculous, misbadging, etc. People dont like the term...oh well. Also, when comparing cars' speeds and such, you really shouldnt compare modded vs stock, or modded vs modded. THAT is beating a dead horse as well. I know tons of minis that could beat mustangs in a drag race, and quite a few civics that could beat a viper in a drag race. Who cares? In the end, rice or not, each car is an expression of each persons individuality. Doesn't mean we have to like it though, but at least they had the balls to do something that they wanted to, instead of just blending in with everyone else.
 
well I'd rather call them 'rice' then 'pathetic saxo's with mufflers and a dodgy paint job and spoiler'.
As it has been said, it is just a generalisation that is used simply to make some peoples lives easier.
 
hiya! :D :embarrassed: :lol:

Well here this "rice" word go again! :embarrassed: Well, the word "rice" to me when talking about cars changed overtime as I read threads from here and thought about it over the year. Each person got their own ways or simillar ways of what they considered "RICED." I'll go different ideas that get told over and over from various people. The idea of having a car look good on the outside with fancy bodykits that make it look fast until you find out that there is like nothing at all under the hood seems to be a common one around where I live. I dink its just a typical thing when someone sees a fast looking car, they think it must be heavily modified under the hood. Same thing to others too when you see a good-looking man in an expensive business suit carrying a suit case, we think this person might be well educated and have a high-paying job. I believe its just human nature of how when we see something fancy, we expect it to work/perform better than other products that look less fancy. :rolleyes:

I am sure that when a racing type person get thier car, I am pretty sure they going to do something to the car within the first month. Upgrade such as Air intake, Filter and a muffler is common. Now, its just that they way certain people drive their car will make people target them as their car being "riced." And when I mean by the way they drive, I mean as they drive way beyond the speed limit, Zips past you and go straight and cut off many cars. Well, this doesnt really seem "riced" more like a dangerous driver for sure, but its the way they drive is what get people mad and call their cars "riced." :eek:

Now for me, I got this new idea for myself from seeing "funny" cars in the past two month. I see cars that are being decorated or being displayed as if they are the "better" version of the other car. For example, at school, this person claimed that his Integra is an Integra Type R. Everyone wants to go see it because the school never had a Type R in the lot, ever. So we all went to go see it only to find out that something looks a tinne einnie wrong about his car..."Tight huh?" Since I didnt know enough about integras, I decided to keep my mouth shut and just let the others talk. People began to circle around the Integra and I can see that the owner seem to be getting nervous, until.... "Hey! this is kewl....How long did it take you to cover up the edges of the TYPE R sticker with some paint?" BUSTED!!! Yea so, um...In my opinion, its just that when the owner of the car lies to himself and to others of what car he have when it REALLY ISNT IT, is what I call rice. Same thing can go with Camaros, not a Z28, then get some Z28 emblem, put it on the back and the two side and claim you have a Z28. So its like talking about your car of how you got the better version than the normal one when you dont even have it. But it sure does bother them when you asked them to race it with the REAL car of that type and see if it really is. Yea thats all I have to say for now! Just please be happy with what you have and dont lie to yourself and your friends about your car. If it isnt the better one of that name, dont be afraid to tell them its not a Z28, SS, DX, LX, SE, GT or Type R. You will only hurt yourself and feel embarassed when your friends and buddies figured out that your car ISNT what you said it is. :embarrassed::embarrassed:
 
Originally posted by donbenni
I hate it when people just use the term 'rice' for any modified car.

"Fast And Furious is rice.."

Fast and Furious is rice, and the Eclipse, RX7 and the Supra all look better for it. Just because a car is rice doesn't mean it's bad.

I personally think rice is generally any modified Japanese car, although other countries can produce rice cars as well.
 
Originally posted by Roo
Fast and Furious is rice, and the Eclipse, RX7 and the Supra all look better for it. Just because a car is rice doesn't mean it's bad.

Imo the term rice is used too often for bad things that it's pretty much accepted as being bad.
 
Dude not another one of these man. Im gonna pass out reading another 40 page long thread on Rice. We've already beaten the **** out of this word and people arent gonna change man. Just take it for what it is. Only reason i may use this word...and i know i may be wrong...but its the only word that comes to mind when i need to describe something. And its the only word im sure almost everyone else will understand the meaning of. I dont say the term rice is politically correct. But, around here, so many people have modified their vehicles in super-extravagent show, no go fashion and such UGLY ways that the word has just been pounded into my face. I dont mind a nice clean body kit or ground effects...but when people go to far with it....
 
Originally posted by neon_duke
I'd call the author of this topic a sadistic, sodomistic necrophile, but that's beating a dead horse.
I get all the relevant information from the title of his threads.

Note to John: I bet you're a really nice guy and everything, but your posts are boring beyond belief. (SPECIAL NOTE)

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Okay, this "whack the piñata" (me) apparentely has to stop right now! At least I said at the beginning that this would be a big intro. My point is to learn exactly why people downplay such cars and such drivers, and I've seen some good ideas posted. All I wanted was public opinion on the issue at hand. At least no one asked me "what the hell is this thread about?" Good grief. No wonder such forums don't go anywhere. And if anywhere I mean "to hell," then so be it. This is nothing more but an investigation as to why people are so opposed to them. I'm not saying I'm for the subculture, I'm not saying I'm against the subculture. I just want to know.

40-page long intro... looks like a full moon is rising, or some abuse of power is going on. Special post. Next replies. (slams door angry)
 
Well, these threads have been crushed into the ground hundreds of the time before. Everyone on this board has expressed his opinion on rice at least 4 times each. It just gets old.
 
You just stated what i said in a more open way:rolleyes: . Rice threads have gotten the crap kicked out of them. Please do not start another thread that has anything to do with rice, comparisons between American and Japanese vehicles, Tuners, or Customizing cars because all are going to go to hell in a handbasket. And im pretty sure you've made like atleast 3 out of the many i listed.
 
Originally posted by JohnBM01
My point is to learn exactly why people downplay such cars and such drivers
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Need another reason? There are plenty of nice looking bodykits, spoilers, etc out there, and if you are not interested in performance and just want a good looking car, that's fine by me. But 'things' like this just make me want to vomit. Sadly, there are lots of 'things' as ugly as this out on the roads.
 
Fun time - that Vauxhall/Opel Tigra runs a 1.6i at 100hp.

All show + no-go = "insert derogatory term here"
 
I thought that was (of all cars, I know), the Ford Falcon.
 
"Regis, I'm going to take a guess and say that car is a Tigra."

REGIS: "Final answer?"
ME: "...yes. Final answer."
 
Originally posted by JohnBM01
Okay, this "whack the piñata" (me) apparentely has to stop right now! At least I said at the beginning that this would be a big intro. My point is to learn exactly why people downplay such cars and such drivers, and I've seen some good ideas posted. All I wanted was public opinion on the issue at hand. At least no one asked me "what the hell is this thread about?" Good grief. No wonder such forums don't go anywhere. And if anywhere I mean "to hell," then so be it. This is nothing more but an investigation as to why people are so opposed to them. I'm not saying I'm for the subculture, I'm not saying I'm against the subculture. I just want to know.

40-page long intro... looks like a full moon is rising, or some abuse of power is going on. Special post. Next replies. (slams door angry)
The problem is, John, that you're retreading territory that has been covered many many times. It is possible to add your thoughts to an existing thread that you didn't start. Also, I've been accused of writing long posts myself, but you need to work on condensing your thoughts a little for clarity's sake.
 
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