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Which is actually great advice I follow when possible. Problem is when I get tossed in the Corvette or slightly bumped off track, that's usually race over for me :( You probably know or have an idea at what getting that RWD 60 feet out of the sand (after getting a shortcut penalty too) from being hit by someone does to a lap... By that time it's pretty much just a matter of letting it go, because at that point there's little hope in me catching them again, especially in the 5-10 seconds of having to readjust to the dirty tires when you get back on the track...
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That is why I almost only raced in the HSRing. Easy to come back.
 
there's really no point moaning about it until there are private rooms
although I don't like it, all the people that ram etc paid money for their game so they can play it how they like!
 
Rubbing and small contact I'm OK with. Well I'm not, I don't fully understand why contact between cars is necessary. Either you can make it clean and do it, or you're unsure and wait for a better moment. But I will say it's understandable. I'm not a prude who thinks that races will never have contact. They shouldn't, or at least wouldn't have as much if people were more careful and cautious, but that's beside the point... I can live with you tapping the side of my car, but if it's persistent, there's a problem with your driving, not mine.

Intentional or not, negligent driving isn't something I tolerate, even less so when I know the action was deliberate, but it's in no way acceptable regardless. I know, accidents happen, they happen far too much, but they do happen. I wouldn't hold you too accountable if you'd just make an attempt at making amends with myself and other drivers. Maybe even just write their name down and send them a short message detailing your intent and what actually happened.

Earlier this week I was rear ended on Suzuka at the turn after the hairpin (roughly halfway though the course...) I don't think the guy did it on purpose. He seemed clean and legit, and we were neck and neck coming around the bend. Well he pulls behind me, and when I go to brake, he smashes into me. He had little to no room for judgement, or just poor reaction time and hand eye coordination, and managed to find himself in an awkward position which ended up with me in an even funnier spot... in the sand... My braking point is much earlier than his was, apparently, and I have to be careful with the Vette. I've drove Suzuka so many times I know where I'm comfortable and what speeds I'm comfortable with, and I feel safer at the point I brake at. Now he might have been trying to push his luck, or maybe he could pull it off, the possibility that it was on purpose is there, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. Naturally I was upset, but I wasn't so much pissed that he did it, I was more angered by the fact that he drove off and appeared to care less.

This is the type of etiquette I'm talking about. If you're going to push your luck, so be it, but if you screw someone else doing it, and innocent driver, don't just shrug your shoulders and say "Sucks to be him." because then you wind up blacklisted and being targetted yourself.
 
I race with good intentions and will be a gent if others are. But when someone does me wrong, woe betide them. They'll get some back

I'm not in the least worried if some here think that that attitude is counter productive, because in due course will have private rooms and all will be well

Until then, what will be will be. It's as i've said before, enjoy the battle any way you can :D :cool:
 
Like I said before... when it's mayhem, I do not use the GTP_name.

If people keep bumping me intentionally or don't avoid contact knowing I'll me in trouble, I will not be courteous to them. I memorize their names and if in the same race they make a mistake and cut across my path, or intentionally "over-defend" by parking the car on the inside line, I do not deviate or brake earlier to avoid them.

FTL
 
Another thing i've noticed is that good clean drivers like ourselves are better at the dirty tricks than those that instigate them :lol:

Anyone else noticed that? It's true i swear :lol: :lol:
 
What I love the most is anticipating their moves and see them go take a sand trip.

Or recover from one, catch up then trail them (instead of even trying to overtake) and watch them screw up.

Or overtaking them, and watch them in the mirror outbraking themselves trying to hit your rear.

Or brake sooner, letting them go in the inside, knowing they are waiting to lean on you, and then see them understeer into the sand.

Or...
 
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Or brake sooner, letting them go in the inside, knowing they are waiting to lean on you, and then see them understeer into the sand.

Or...
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yeah that happened so many times, when I was racing on suzuka because most of the times I really break early so I can hit the apex. It so much fun when your opponent thinks yeah now I can outbreak him, so he drives too fast into the corner breaks, looses grip and ends up in the sand :sly:
 
what I really hate is when I'm going through a corner, braked enough where I don't really slide, but the person in front of me went in a bit too fast and his front end dips into my line as he slides... I can't really adjust without risking a wipeout, so I clip his front end sending him into a spin or the wall. I feel really bad a bout it, as neither of us were really racing dirty, but he was the one in lesser control of his car.. I dunno.

If I wipeout in a pack, I'll stay or move against the wall or grass till they pass, or I'll try to anyway. What really irk me is those who will reverse and line back up while a pack is taking the corner, causing mass chaos.. Sure you want to place, everyone does, but getting a rear end boost from causing a mass wreck isn't really the way about it..
 
helseth
Retaliation against most of those won´t do any good. They'll just let it off on someone else... It won´t sink in no matter what. That´s why some people drink, smoke, rob, steal, do drugs, kill, rape and so on, regardless if it´s legal, healthy or banned.
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i smoke :D but i get your point. it's like bugging someone, well, that's basically what it is. the more you get annoyed, the more they'll bug you.
 
What do you make of this?

I was racing in HSR today at 500PP, and this guy for 4 laps was wall surfing. I was right behind him everytime before the S turn. But he was invisable and always finding a way to get ahead of me. He was racing a little dicey with me, not giving me much room and hitting me sometimes. Nothing intentional. I was ahead of him again on the last lap, but he did he wall surfing move and got ahead of me again for the 5th time before the S turn. So before the S turn I didn't brake as early as a usually did and bumped him up the track a bit. I did this full knowingly what I was doing. I got past him and ended up winning the race.

My question, am I justified in my actions? If it wasn't for his wall surfing he would have been 7 or 8 second behind me. I know it is wrong to make contact, but I see it sometimes in Nascar and other events where the driver moves the person out of the way without wrecking him. Since he was cheating, did my dirty move make me as low has him? It wasn't like I was trying to wreck him..I have enough control over my car to make it do what I want. So I bumped him in the corner..I mean I was a tap..like 5 MPH..

What are your thoughts?
 
Chadwicksracing
What do you make of this?

I was racing in HSR today at 500PP, and this guy for 4 laps was wall surfing. I was right behind him everytime before the S turn. But he was invisable and always finding a way to get ahead of me. He was racing a little dicey with me, not giving me much room and hitting me sometimes. Nothing intentional. I was ahead of him again on the last lap, but he did he wall surfing move and got ahead of me again for the 5th time before the S turn. So before the S turn I didn't brake as early as a usually did and bumped him up the track a bit. I did this full knowingly what I was doing. I got past him and ended up winning the race.

My question, am I justified in my actions? If it wasn't for his wall surfing he would have been 7 or 8 second behind me. I know it is wrong to make contact, but I see it sometimes in Nascar and other events where the driver moves the person out of the way without wrecking him. Since he was cheating, did my dirty move make me as low has him? It wasn't like I was trying to wreck him..I have enough control over my car to make it do what I want. So I bumped him in the corner..I mean I was a tap..like 5 MPH..

What are your thoughts?
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Rubbin's Racin, IMHO. Gently, at least. Full throttle ramming into the side or such, not really. Gently moving someone out of your line without crashing them, I feel is alright...If I see someone drafting close to me looking for a bump, I'll try to square up on their line so if they bump I'll just get a boost. But if they are coming from a completely different line/not drafting me, I'll let 'em pass as most likely they are going wide and I'll have the speed going out of the corner. Your situation is a thumbs up in my view.

I won't get mad if someone genuinly has the speed on me taps me and it screws up my line. Now if they ram my rear-side panel, I'll get a bit miffed, but again unless they were one of those crazy drivers, chances are they had my number anyway and it was my fault for not lining up for a "proper" block, if there is such a thing.

What I would really like is a "pass" button, where there is a signal on or above your car that tells the driver behind you that you are giving them a pass. (since we can't really use our "hands" to wave someone on) On the last straight on HSR (where I prefer cornering vs speed) I usually get passed, and if I see someone speeding up on me I'll pull to the side and let off the accelerator. But when they stay right behind me and bump me throwing me into that first corner I get a bit upset, but after all they didn't know I was letting them pass...
 
can someone help me i bought gt5 prolouge and i want to wonder how long it lets me play for and when does the real gt5 come out

if stupid gt5 prologue is a demo why did i pay 40 bucks for it :(
 
@ gt5kid: Please check your private messages, and stop spamming other people's threads with your inane questions.

This is an entire site dedicated to all things Gran Turismo, all the answers you need are here. Try the search function, GT5:P is not GT5, have you lived under a rock in Florida for the past year-or-so? The answer to your question is in the article that you quoted in the other thread you spammed! :dunce:

GT5 isn't out yet, read my last post here, read your PM and calm down. ;)

You've also been warned about double posting. :grumpy:
(Actually it was octuple posting last time, but let's not split hairs, eh?)

Lay off the caffeine, take a deep breath and READ some of the information about GT5:P before you make your next post. :sly:
 
i did answer your private message, i appoligized to you.Sorry for the miss-spelling im 12.Also i am fairly new please dont be mad at me :(

One last question so everyone here has gt5 prologue and gt5 is not out yet?My last question.
 
There is an "EDIT" button in the bottom of every post you make here.
Learn about it and use it. This is the 3rd and last time I will ask you. :grumpy:
You have a PM reply.

Stop spamming threads which are unrelated to your questions.
 
@Chadwicksracing,

The temptation to do something like that is big. I actualy fell for it in the past.

But now I will not nudge someone to pass, not on purpose. I will however take up any chance I get to mess up their moronic moves and "allow" some contact. Like when they are all over the place and cut across my path. Or sometimes leave my car in front of their wall riding line. Usually alows me to get bumped into some wallriding and him to slow a bit, enough to pull ahead a decent lead and stay away from their wall riding passing moves.

If I'm racing a 1 on 1 with such a moron I just quit very early if not the host, or park the car. They are not worthy of racing me (us).
 
Someone else's bad behavior does not justify your bad behavior.

In short, I'll take the loss rather than make an a$$ of myself.
 
The best revenge is to come back from a punt and beat the punter to the line, although this is not always possible.

I'm not in agreement about being 100% passive with the punters. I don't advocate bashing bad drivers, but a blanket rule that says never retaliate becomes a weapon that can be used against you in future races.

If the punters learn that GTP ers will never retaliate, I'm pretty sure that isn't going to make them leave us alone. There are people in the world that seem to learn nothing if it isn't accompanied by a whack to the head (or fender in this case), and there are times when it can be accomplished and the proper message sent. Use your discretion and common sense.

As for me, I don't really ever retaliate, not because I don't want to, but because I'm so pathetically bad at it. Most of my attempts to punt resulted in my going off in the dirt. Now I just resist the urge.

As someone noted in another thread, it seems GTP tagged drivers are becoming a target because some drivers need to bash us to beat us. If you really want to get abused out there, put [US] at the end of your handle and play PAL online!
 
Thanks for the comments, I knew it was a 50-50 thing from people. Its just it was so unfair, and the previous race I was slammed into the wall 100 yards from the finish line. Where I would have won the race because I got a better drive off the last turn.

This guy I was racing, I would build a 2 second lead every lap, then he would draft up on me do his wall surfing move then he was 1 second ahead of me. So for once I decided to bump him up the track to give me my racing line.. I think I will just quit next time, because like you guys said its not worth it. I don't want my GTP name to go to hell. Thanks.
 
slicecom
You make a good point.

I honestly don't care much about winning anymore, I've beat the game and own every car. I'd much rather have a good battle and finish 3rd than dominate and finish 1st. It just makes me mad when I see people racing dirty. How can they even feel good about a win when they had to ram 3 people off the road to get it? I just don't understand.
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Exactly. A good battle is important, I can finish 1st when no one's within 12 seconds of me, but I get a better feeling finishing 3rd, but having just an awesome battle, whether I won or lost the spot. On the final chicane @ Suzuka, I was in third the other drivers braked and I braked a little late (sometimes I forget how much faster and unstable the car is in traffic). I knocked them both off the track and I went around the chicane for the almost win. I stopped and let both of them back on in front of me. 3rd place finish but what a race it was until I screwed it up for everyone. :)
 
There is some bumps and collisions that I let pass by, but some contact boils my blood.

It's the stupid things like when someone follows you into a hard braking zone right on your bumper. There's no way they know when you're going to brake yet they stay inches from your bumper and always end up hitting you. Also guys who try to pass you in the most rediculous parts of a track.

At the start of a Suzuka race I had this one dumb bunny behind me in a tuned clio at the start bump me right before turn 1 which sent me off into the sand. I waited for him to come around then shoved him off the track from the lead. I don't feel too bad about doing that, the clown would have been black flagged in real life.

At another race some joker ran me off the track with an over the top move. I caught up to him and ran him off. He caught up to me and passed me cleanly without retaliation, knowing good and well he deserved what I gave him.

All this mayhem isn't a problem in NASCAR 2003 Online, nearly every race has a "Boss" watching everyone, and he has the power to eject/give black flag. You are given instructions not to retaliate but rather send a message to the Boss with your complaint vs a certain driver. He will check the replay and lay down the law. Retaliation gets you ejected or banned.

Everyone has been talking about how NASCAR has encouraged some players to ram each other I can tell you that's simply not true. It's the bumper car physics and pass 15 cars in 1 lap missions that encourages bonehead behavior. I've watched online racing videos of guys outside of GTP on youtube and the way they try and run through the field is pathetic, you would think they are racing AI cars because of how they treat them, diving bombing etc etc, and they seem to have no problem with it because they post the video up like they are proud of it. Afterall barging your way through the field is acceptable and encouraged offline, why not online? 👎

NASCAR 2003 by Papyrus for the PC is home to some of the cleanest online racers on planet earth. These guys have the talent to stay 3-wide inches apart in 35 car packs at tracks like Daytona even though the game has extremely unforgiving crash physics where the slightest touch will spin someone out.

And what do 90% of the drivers do if they spin you out? They pull over and retire from the race. Some servers force you to retire for spinning someone or you get ejected from the race.

It upsets me everytime someone says wreckers in GT5P should go play a NASCAR game. The cleanest, fairest racers are in NASCAR 2003 online
 
This is the game makers favorite car.Sorry for this post moderators if say for example is not anything.
Sorry if this is not a picture of a car i did not know how to put the url.
 
Gt'sBest is a duplicate account of gt5kid and has been warned previously about multiposting in numerous threads last night (including twice in this thread!!!!)
Registering another account to repeat that misdemeanour isn't a sensible idea.
This account has been terminated.
There is an unread PM from me in gt5kid's inbox which answers all your questions from last night.
Please do not create multiple accounts to get around warnings and infractions. 👎
 

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