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Bloody hell, I'm an idiot. I edited my original post on the 1st page instead of my final post with race results! ARGH!
Anyway, here it is again, so as not to confuse anybody:
Supercar Challenge - Old Timer Event - 1972 Ferrari 365 GTS4 Spyder - Sunday, January 17th, 2010 - Race Results
Once again, a big thanks to all those who took part in the 365 GTS/4 event. In this case, a few less people showed up than I assumed would and many people who wanted to be included in the event weren't on-line during the race. I'm assuming they either forgot or had plans elsewhere. I purposely didn't do much promotion for the last few days both in this thread and by way of PSN messages since the last race was pushing the limit and I had people asking for invites when the lobby was full. This time, we never had more than 10 people in the lobby (although both Bullie & Turnupdaheat had trouble connecting.) Really a shame.
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Race No 1 : VIR - 15 Laps - Dry - 2 Lap Qualifying to Precede the Race
Qualifying went much better this time. That is to say, I assume it did. A little domestic disturbance on my one and only flying lap meant I would be relegated to the back of the field. Or so I thought. When the race started, I was rather confused to see I was starting from pole position. I wasn't sure what to do. I had my mic back in the charger and I would have had to get up to reach it. And lining up again would have meant an additional qualifying run which would have been unfair to everybody. And I had no way of knowing who else had a 'red' lap in qualifying. So I just took it but felt a bit ill at east with this decision.
Simcoeace was behind me and made a pass up the inside going into the uphill braking zone before the sharp uphill right hander. I was able to slice back inside behind him, tapping him a bit in the process and making a little contact with Alan behind me. At that point, I was a little confused and wasn't sure if there was another car on my right rear quarter and stuck hard to the left before realizing I was in the clear. Alan was able to get by with a great inside slip stream and pass down the main straight. I tried to give him room into the braking zone and probably over did it, nearly running wide myself
Going through the esses, mhm66 was able to get by me when I went a bit off line before the last double right hander before the main straight. After Henrik got by, chilledant tried to stick his nose up the inside, we made contact, I got a bit off line and couldn't brake for the corner in time and most of the field got by. But realistically, I never should have been in that position to begin with so I didn't fight it. And either way it was just a racing incident.
From that point on, I was able to watch the battle between SimcoeAce and Hun200kmh and at one point, I was able to capitalize on a mistake by Mario and get around him. One thing I'm really at a loss to understand is how I overshot the braking zone for the uphill right hander, allowing Mario to get by again. If you watch the video (publishing later tonight or tomorrow) you can clearly see I brake at exactly the same spot and yet somehow I completely overshoot the braking zone. I'm not in anybody's draft, I'm not off-line, I'm just at a loss to understand it. But from that point on, I just couldn't get close enough to Mario to challenge him again, slowly falling behind here or there after a few mistakes.
Mario managed to get by SimcoeAce and I finished the race about 3.5 seconds behind Biggles. Well done to the top four who all put in very impressive lap times.
Results:
1. AlanG184 - 1:43:16 - 25 points
2. new_soul - 1:43:14 - 21 points *FL
3. mhm66 - 1:43:62 - 16 points
4. ChilledAnt - 1:43:60 - 13 points
5. GTP_Hun - 1:44:32 - 11 points
6. Simcoeace - 1:45.62 - 10 points
7. jjaisli - 1:45:29 - 9 points
8. drivatar - 1:50:77 - 8 points
9. sheffield-untied - RTD (but awarded 7 points based on 70% race distance completed)
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Race No 2 : Silverstone - 15 Laps - WET - Reverse Grid from the Previous Race
Starting 3rd on the grid at Silverstone, I had a good start and was able to get by both Drivatar and sheffield-united going into copse. I was thrilled to be able to maintain this lead for the first 2 minutes, before a hard charging mhm66 was able to get by me into Abbey. Silverstone has never been one of my favorite tracks and I knew I would probably struggle for pace here. But what I wasn't counting on was braking for Abbey on lap 4, at the same place I was the lap before, and understeering right off the road, allowing AlanG and Hun200kmh to get by me. I was really pretty angry with myself but, what can you do. I saw new_soul behind me and realized it was probably only a matter of time before he caught me and it proved to be the case. I could almost match him when I was putting in good laps (I had several laps in the low 2:27s but they were all red) but more often than not, a small mistake or a bad line here or there allowed him to make up about 2+ seconds/lap on me. Not much else to say about this race. Most of it I spent running on my own and I was just happy when it was over.
Results:
1. mhm66 - 2:26.44 - 25 points
2. AlangG184 - 2:25.88 - 21 points
3. GTP_Hun - 2:26:49 - 16 points
4. new_soul - 2:26:04 - 13 points
5. jjaisli - 2:28:47 - 11 points
6. simcoeace - 2:30:60 - 10 points
7 drivatar - 2:34:80 - 9 points
8 sheffield-united - RTD
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Race No 3 : Redwood Park (Montreal) - 15 Laps - Dry - 2 Lap Qualifying to Precede the Race
Qualifying seemed to go pretty well this time, although it did appear to take an awfully long time to build the gap. I wasn't thrilled with my lap but I guess considering the way this race turned out, I shouldn't be surprised. Once upon a time, I was actually pretty quick at Montreal. Perhaps it's the pressure to perform at what I see as one of my better tracks but I seem to have botched this race badly, the last few times I've raced here both in SCC and FC. Or at least lets say, when the race counts.
New_soul generously waited for the field to go by at the start in order to put the 'grid' back in proper order. From there, the race just didn't go as planned. My pace wasn't bad but my race was just marred by a series of small errors. And ultimately, I wasn't able to achieve the kind of lap times I wanted. Although I was able to get several laps into the mid 2:00s, all of them were red so it matters very little. It's a shame considering my 'race' pace was nearly .6 seconds beyond what I know I'm capable of. And instead, of eating into his lead, I saw Hun200kmh continuously pull away.
Eventually new_soul was able to get around me and kept it there for 2 laps. He made a mistake on the final lap and braked late at the hairpin and I was able to come up the inside. I didn't realize he was that close to me and I think I squeezed him a little bit
and from there we ran side by side, with my car slightly ahead and on the right side of the track, all the way down the back straight. About 200m from the braking zone, I could see I was just ahead of him and decided to move to the left to get a better line into the final chicane. But as I did so, our cars made contact (lag issue) 
and I saw new_soul hit the wall. I felt very badly about this and realized it probably looked to new_soul that I had tried to either squeeze him or perhaps even deliberately push him into the wall and I assure you that was not my intention. I then slowed down to allow him to take the lead but I was still ahead at the chicane. I tried to go wide because I wasn't sure exactly where he was and got a penalty. It look like at the end, new_soul was trying to slow down for me but I didn't want to take it and allowed him to claim 4th place. Perhaps he has a different take on this incident but that's how I saw it and I thought it was only right to allow him to cross the line first.
Ironically, even though he crossed the line at least a second in front of me, the game awarded the victory to me.
So to me it was clear there was a lag/timing issue between us and that was probably responsible for the incident on the final lap when I tried to move in front of him.
1. AlanG184 - 1:59:34 - 26 points (a new track record?)
2. mhm66 - 2:00:80 - 20 points
3. GTP_Hun - 2:00:69 - 16 points
4. new_soul - 2:00.54 - 13 points
5. jjaisli - 2:01:10 - 11 points
6. Simcoeace - 2:02:00 - 10 points
7. Ghost_dice - 2:02:02 - 9 points
8. Drivatar - 2:04:42 - 8 points *
9. GTP_bullie77 - 2:06.18 - 7 points *
* Unless I'm mistaken, Drivatar and Bullie also commented that their positions were reversed at the finish line.
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Final Results:
Back to the top. Proving that random or reverse grids matter little during longer events, AlanG returns to the sweet spot on the podium, with the wind full in his hair.
1. AlanG184 - 72 points
2. mhm66 - 61 points
3. new_soul - 47 points
4. GTP_Hun - 43 points
5. jjaisli - 31 points
6. SimcoeAce - 30 points*
7. drivatar - 25 points
8. ChilledAnt - 13 points **
9. Ghost_Dice - 9 points **
10. GTP_Bullie - 7 points **
11. sheffield-unted 7 points
* Age adjusted = 1,168 points and over-all victory
** took part in only 1 round
Once again, I hope everybody enjoyed themselves and was able to appreciate the 'spirit' of these events and the manner in which they are intended. For the time being, I have to put any future events on temporary hold until I can sort my schedule out. I'll post some video as soon as it's available. Although my camera ran out about 1/2 way through Montreal (unfortunate) and the quality is just awful.
Waiting for the race to start ~ 19:30 hrs - "RACE CONTROL"
Anyway, here it is again, so as not to confuse anybody:
Supercar Challenge - Old Timer Event - 1972 Ferrari 365 GTS4 Spyder - Sunday, January 17th, 2010 - Race Results
Once again, a big thanks to all those who took part in the 365 GTS/4 event. In this case, a few less people showed up than I assumed would and many people who wanted to be included in the event weren't on-line during the race. I'm assuming they either forgot or had plans elsewhere. I purposely didn't do much promotion for the last few days both in this thread and by way of PSN messages since the last race was pushing the limit and I had people asking for invites when the lobby was full. This time, we never had more than 10 people in the lobby (although both Bullie & Turnupdaheat had trouble connecting.) Really a shame.
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Race No 1 : VIR - 15 Laps - Dry - 2 Lap Qualifying to Precede the Race
Qualifying went much better this time. That is to say, I assume it did. A little domestic disturbance on my one and only flying lap meant I would be relegated to the back of the field. Or so I thought. When the race started, I was rather confused to see I was starting from pole position. I wasn't sure what to do. I had my mic back in the charger and I would have had to get up to reach it. And lining up again would have meant an additional qualifying run which would have been unfair to everybody. And I had no way of knowing who else had a 'red' lap in qualifying. So I just took it but felt a bit ill at east with this decision.
Simcoeace was behind me and made a pass up the inside going into the uphill braking zone before the sharp uphill right hander. I was able to slice back inside behind him, tapping him a bit in the process and making a little contact with Alan behind me. At that point, I was a little confused and wasn't sure if there was another car on my right rear quarter and stuck hard to the left before realizing I was in the clear. Alan was able to get by with a great inside slip stream and pass down the main straight. I tried to give him room into the braking zone and probably over did it, nearly running wide myself
Going through the esses, mhm66 was able to get by me when I went a bit off line before the last double right hander before the main straight. After Henrik got by, chilledant tried to stick his nose up the inside, we made contact, I got a bit off line and couldn't brake for the corner in time and most of the field got by. But realistically, I never should have been in that position to begin with so I didn't fight it. And either way it was just a racing incident.
From that point on, I was able to watch the battle between SimcoeAce and Hun200kmh and at one point, I was able to capitalize on a mistake by Mario and get around him. One thing I'm really at a loss to understand is how I overshot the braking zone for the uphill right hander, allowing Mario to get by again. If you watch the video (publishing later tonight or tomorrow) you can clearly see I brake at exactly the same spot and yet somehow I completely overshoot the braking zone. I'm not in anybody's draft, I'm not off-line, I'm just at a loss to understand it. But from that point on, I just couldn't get close enough to Mario to challenge him again, slowly falling behind here or there after a few mistakes.
Mario managed to get by SimcoeAce and I finished the race about 3.5 seconds behind Biggles. Well done to the top four who all put in very impressive lap times.
Results:
1. AlanG184 - 1:43:16 - 25 points
2. new_soul - 1:43:14 - 21 points *FL
3. mhm66 - 1:43:62 - 16 points
4. ChilledAnt - 1:43:60 - 13 points
5. GTP_Hun - 1:44:32 - 11 points
6. Simcoeace - 1:45.62 - 10 points
7. jjaisli - 1:45:29 - 9 points
8. drivatar - 1:50:77 - 8 points
9. sheffield-untied - RTD (but awarded 7 points based on 70% race distance completed)
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Race No 2 : Silverstone - 15 Laps - WET - Reverse Grid from the Previous Race
Starting 3rd on the grid at Silverstone, I had a good start and was able to get by both Drivatar and sheffield-united going into copse. I was thrilled to be able to maintain this lead for the first 2 minutes, before a hard charging mhm66 was able to get by me into Abbey. Silverstone has never been one of my favorite tracks and I knew I would probably struggle for pace here. But what I wasn't counting on was braking for Abbey on lap 4, at the same place I was the lap before, and understeering right off the road, allowing AlanG and Hun200kmh to get by me. I was really pretty angry with myself but, what can you do. I saw new_soul behind me and realized it was probably only a matter of time before he caught me and it proved to be the case. I could almost match him when I was putting in good laps (I had several laps in the low 2:27s but they were all red) but more often than not, a small mistake or a bad line here or there allowed him to make up about 2+ seconds/lap on me. Not much else to say about this race. Most of it I spent running on my own and I was just happy when it was over.
Results:
1. mhm66 - 2:26.44 - 25 points
2. AlangG184 - 2:25.88 - 21 points
3. GTP_Hun - 2:26:49 - 16 points
4. new_soul - 2:26:04 - 13 points
5. jjaisli - 2:28:47 - 11 points
6. simcoeace - 2:30:60 - 10 points
7 drivatar - 2:34:80 - 9 points
8 sheffield-united - RTD
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Race No 3 : Redwood Park (Montreal) - 15 Laps - Dry - 2 Lap Qualifying to Precede the Race
Qualifying seemed to go pretty well this time, although it did appear to take an awfully long time to build the gap. I wasn't thrilled with my lap but I guess considering the way this race turned out, I shouldn't be surprised. Once upon a time, I was actually pretty quick at Montreal. Perhaps it's the pressure to perform at what I see as one of my better tracks but I seem to have botched this race badly, the last few times I've raced here both in SCC and FC. Or at least lets say, when the race counts.
New_soul generously waited for the field to go by at the start in order to put the 'grid' back in proper order. From there, the race just didn't go as planned. My pace wasn't bad but my race was just marred by a series of small errors. And ultimately, I wasn't able to achieve the kind of lap times I wanted. Although I was able to get several laps into the mid 2:00s, all of them were red so it matters very little. It's a shame considering my 'race' pace was nearly .6 seconds beyond what I know I'm capable of. And instead, of eating into his lead, I saw Hun200kmh continuously pull away.
Eventually new_soul was able to get around me and kept it there for 2 laps. He made a mistake on the final lap and braked late at the hairpin and I was able to come up the inside. I didn't realize he was that close to me and I think I squeezed him a little bit
and from there we ran side by side, with my car slightly ahead and on the right side of the track, all the way down the back straight. About 200m from the braking zone, I could see I was just ahead of him and decided to move to the left to get a better line into the final chicane. But as I did so, our cars made contact (lag issue) and I saw new_soul hit the wall. I felt very badly about this and realized it probably looked to new_soul that I had tried to either squeeze him or perhaps even deliberately push him into the wall and I assure you that was not my intention. I then slowed down to allow him to take the lead but I was still ahead at the chicane. I tried to go wide because I wasn't sure exactly where he was and got a penalty. It look like at the end, new_soul was trying to slow down for me but I didn't want to take it and allowed him to claim 4th place. Perhaps he has a different take on this incident but that's how I saw it and I thought it was only right to allow him to cross the line first.Ironically, even though he crossed the line at least a second in front of me, the game awarded the victory to me.
So to me it was clear there was a lag/timing issue between us and that was probably responsible for the incident on the final lap when I tried to move in front of him.
1. AlanG184 - 1:59:34 - 26 points (a new track record?)
2. mhm66 - 2:00:80 - 20 points
3. GTP_Hun - 2:00:69 - 16 points
4. new_soul - 2:00.54 - 13 points
5. jjaisli - 2:01:10 - 11 points
6. Simcoeace - 2:02:00 - 10 points
7. Ghost_dice - 2:02:02 - 9 points
8. Drivatar - 2:04:42 - 8 points *
9. GTP_bullie77 - 2:06.18 - 7 points *
* Unless I'm mistaken, Drivatar and Bullie also commented that their positions were reversed at the finish line.
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Final Results:
Back to the top. Proving that random or reverse grids matter little during longer events, AlanG returns to the sweet spot on the podium, with the wind full in his hair.
1. AlanG184 - 72 points
2. mhm66 - 61 points
3. new_soul - 47 points
4. GTP_Hun - 43 points
5. jjaisli - 31 points
6. SimcoeAce - 30 points*
7. drivatar - 25 points
8. ChilledAnt - 13 points **
9. Ghost_Dice - 9 points **
10. GTP_Bullie - 7 points **
11. sheffield-unted 7 points
* Age adjusted = 1,168 points and over-all victory
** took part in only 1 round
Once again, I hope everybody enjoyed themselves and was able to appreciate the 'spirit' of these events and the manner in which they are intended. For the time being, I have to put any future events on temporary hold until I can sort my schedule out. I'll post some video as soon as it's available. Although my camera ran out about 1/2 way through Montreal (unfortunate) and the quality is just awful.
Waiting for the race to start ~ 19:30 hrs - "RACE CONTROL"
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Then again, he has a decade (or two) on you. And by my reckoning, there's one other player who is older than you and another the same age. So we can consider ourselves the 'mid life crisis' crew if you like. Except for some of the 'kids' in their 20s and yours truly who's still grasping hard onto the last straws of his glorious 30s. 
