SCCA SWTC Round 3 - Results UPDATED

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Welcome racers to Road Atlanta (AKA for our purposes Infinion stock car course) this race is another sprint race, the field was FIERCELY competitive in round 2, so i figured we'd have another like it, (that and the only 2 event style races with this track are the LMP cars, or sport tires only) so 2 lap sprint, family cup, level 10 round 2 results will be posted up later tonight, im gonna make a few changes to the series so be watching for them, but no worries, the format and everything will remain the same, just some staff changes i think.
 
Just had a quick look at “Infineon Stock” and I need some rules clarification please:

  • Can I hit the cones (as long as I keep any other OLR rules)? And,
  • How do we approach the fast right turn right after T1? Is the rumble stripe represent the end of the track or can I pass it from the left while the car is on paved road?




And a general question for anyone that knows:

I was expecting to see my practice car getting an HP boost after the engine will be broken-in, but it’s still the same as my race car (271hp) is that feature gone from GT?
 
GT4 doesn't have a break-in period like GT3 did. Once you've bought the car and changed the oil, you'll have the car's max hp 👍
 
as far as im concerned, cones are fine, and the big runoff where the nascar version of this track skips the inside road course part, again if you can make that big open area to the left work for you feel free, i however have not found a fast way out there, because the rumbles always screw me up.
 
So, just to clarify, anything other than touching with wall is OK?

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I would assume, then than the same applies here?

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It's tough to get too much advantage on the first one, but the second one's a different story :p
 
If it were me, I'd consider the yellow markout as the rumble strip, and anything more than the left side wheels to the left of it as out of bounds. I'm not very interested in searching for a trick way through the courses like this.

[edit] Not that I think that's what you're trying to do, Luxy. I understand you're just looking for clarification.
 
Duke
If it were me, I'd consider the yellow markout as the rumble strip, and anything more than the left side wheels to the left of it as out of bounds. I'm not very interested in searching for a trick way through the courses like this.

[edit] Not that I think that's what you're trying to do, Luxy. I understand you're just looking for clarification.
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I agree with you, Duke. If it were up to me, the rumble strip/yellow line would be the boundary, in both cases (which is how it was when the WRS ran here). I just want to make sure I'm running by the same rules as everyone else, because there's a definite advantage to going past the boundary in both places ... :crazy:

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yourlocalgod
1 yes legal, 2 no, not legal, yellow marks the spot.
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Ok, that's how I'll run it, then.
 
sorry fellas, new to the series, whats the rules on discussing times ect... and how are the races actually run?
 
You can discuss everything except lap times and your overall race time, so talking about your split times, your lines, or your speed through certain corners is all good 👍

How's everyone going in practice?

I've got a:

T1: 0'21.305
T2: 0'43.6xx

(although I did go outside the yellow line at the entry of turn 6, as I ran it before YLG's ruling).
 
races are run whenever you want to but you need 2 seperate cars. 1 for practice only, and one for races only. when you submit your race time, also submit your milage on your car. this helps to try and keep things legit on the one race only rule. also practice on an empty track only, and remember you only get one shot at the race itself.
 
T1 - 21.658
T2 - 45.127.... just gettting used to a FF car again!
 
Luxy
How's everyone going in practice?
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Haven't had a moment to practice. I love this track in Sports Car form, but I've never run the Stock Car version. I'm not expecting better than 10th here, either... Deuce has more miles at Monaco than I have on my practice car in total!
:ouch:
 
I've got a bit of practice time in this week already since I'll be out of town for the weekend. I like the way my Protege is set up for this circuit and I've got my times down to where I think they'll be competitive.

Sorry, no splits recorded, and we can't discuss lap times, so I'll have to keep you guessing. :sly: I'll check them tonight.

Thanks for the ruling on the yellow lines. I was previously a bit unclear on this. I'll likely be running my race tonight, so hopefully no more updates.

I'm a bit worried about the AI in this one. As tight a course as Cote is, I didn't have too many issues with the AI. Infineon, however, is ALL about lines and corner entry, so I think there is huge potential for AI to screw things up! :mad:

Welcome to the newcomers to the series! :cheers:
 
Been running some practice laps (NO AI's this time). I feel good about the lap times.

T1 0:21.546
T2 0:44.568

It appears that I'm losing a second between T1 and T2 compared to Luxy's Times. I guess I'll just throw some extra weight in the boot of his car. :dopey:

I hope we have a full grid this week. Should be interesting.
 
bleurabbit7
T1 0:21.546
T2 0:44.568

It appears that I'm losing a second between T1 and T2 compared to Luxy's Times.
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I'm right there with you. 👎 👍
 
Ran my race tonight, and it didn't go so well :grumpy:

The Grid:
Zonda C12 '00
AC Cars 427 S/C '66
Dodge Viper SRT-10 '03
Spyker C8 Laviolette '02
Dodge Viper GTS-R Concept '00
Mazda Mazda 6 5-Door '03

Lap 1
T1 0'27.910
T2 0'51.461

Lap 2
T1 0'21.424
T2 0'44.942

The field pulled away from me at the line. I overbraked for turn 2 (being overly cautious about cold tires), and lost a bit of time, but caught and passed the Viper Concept into turn 3 (where he banged my passenger door in frustration). Passed the Spyker through turn 4, but took too tight a line, hit the inside curb and bounced wide with three wheels. I passed the SRT-10 cleanly on the outside in turn 5 (while staying inside the rumble strip), and outbraked the AC into turn 6, leaving the Zonda left to chase down. I gained on him all, and pulled along side on the run up to the fast right before the hairpin, where the Zonda attempted, and partially succeeded in running me off the road ... jerk. We end up going through two-wide, rubbing doors. I outbrake him into the hairpin, and suddenly, I've got a clear track ahead.

Lap 2 is going well, until I get to turn 6, where I make a silly mistake and over-brake, running dangerously close to the tire wall on the inside, and ruining my exit.

I'm finding it really hard to deal with running without tire-wear in practice, but with it in the race. I'm really looking forward to doing some longer races (5+ lappers), 2 laps is just too short to get any sort of rhythm going.
 
Luxy
where the Zonda attempted, and partially succeeded in running me off the road ... jerk.
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Italian drivers make better lovers… 👎


Luxy
I'm really looking forward to doing some longer races (5+ lappers), 2 laps is just too short to get any sort of rhythm going.
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Indeed.
 
Golf Power !!!

Race completed, PM was sent to YLG.

With extra 75kg I got even less A-Spec points. 👎

180 A-Spec points race.

Line up and results:
(#)- Position when race started.

+00.000 VW Golf V GTI ’05 (6)
+05.140 Pagani Zonda C12 ‘00 (1)
+08.313 Nissan R390 GT1 Road Car ’98 (4)
+08.646 Dodge VIPER GTSR Concept ‘00 (5)
+11.157 Dodge VIPER SRT10 ’03 (3)
+13.259 AC Cars 427 S/C ’66 (2)

I was able to avoid any contact with AI cars, but couldn’t keep it completely clean.

There were 2 “incidents” to report (both in lap #1):
  1. In turn #4: while avoiding some traffic; I cut the turn from the inside, at least 3 wheels off; as well as a speed killing jump.
  2. In the slalom the 4th turn (right): took it too fast and finished out of the track, 4 wheels on the grass.

My 2nd lap was almost a full sec’ slower than my best practice lap.

GL everyone, I will post some photos shortly.

Golf Power !!!
 
First overtake of the day:
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Turn#4: 3-4 wheels off the track, and who knows how many sec’ off my time?
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Getting into too much traffic, I move to the left of the rumble stripe: (in 5th place)
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And come back in 4th:
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2nd time off the track (Just look at the line the AC is taking)
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Moving to 1st:
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The AC was having a very rough day spending more time on the grass:
(Started the race at 2nd and finishing dead-last.)
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i think we need atleast 5 laps for this serise. come on youlocal, plz figure something out.
 
So that looks more like 3 incidents, Deuce?

I got a chance to run some practice laps yesterday. I'm a little off the pace because I'm still trying to find the magic line through Turn 6; I've never run this configuration before. I'm also not as consistent as I should be; my consistent laps are a full second behind my magic lap, and I hate having that big a disconnect between 'best' and 'average'. So far even my lowest lap has half a second or more left in it because I had a Turn 4 incident which, while rules-compliant, definitely cost me time. The car is set up pretty well for ultimate speed now, but the rumble strips are more poison than I'm used to.
 
sorry fellas, another stupid couple of questions, imi guessin we set the ai on 10?? is this right, and when is the deadline??
 
ls2_297
sorry fellas, another stupid couple of questions, imi guessin we set the ai on 10?? is this right, and when is the deadline??
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Yes. AI is set at 10 and the deadline is Sunday at midnight CDT.
 
Yes, the AI speed gets set to 10.

The schedule of dates and tracks is indicated in the first post of the original "SCCA Speed World Touring Challenge" thread. YLG has been announcing the specifics of each upcoming race when he posts the results of the last one.

Deadlines are usually Sunday nights at midnight for the dates indicated, and results get posted the next evening. There's been no official ruling for the international dateline issue, but if you submit by the deadline on your local time I imagine that's OK.
 
Duke
So that looks more like 3 incidents, Deuce?
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Why 3?

If you referring to the way I passed the Nissan I believe it is within the rules per YLG.

yourlocalgod
1 yes legal, 2 no, not legal, yellow marks the spot.
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I was under the impression that outside the rumble strip was outside the rumble strip. He's not been terribly clear on his clarifications. The picture given showed the Superbird to the right of the rumble strip, which is of course legal, so that's what I thought he was addressing.

Can we get an explicit clarification? Is the paved area to the left of the rumble strip at the exit from Turn Five considered track or grass?
 
I ran my race this morning and was pretty happy with the results. My 2nd lap time was about 0.500 off my average practice lap and I was able to pretty much avoid the unruly AI in Lap 1. :rolleyes:

As I started the race I noticed that the clock was already at 4.3xx as I crossed the S/F, so a little quick math heading into the first corner gave me an idea of how my splits and first lap times should look.

My field consisted of the following:
Spyker C8
R390 Road Car
RUF Yellow Bird
RUF CTR2
AMG SL 65
Mazda Protege

I caught and passed the AMG in turn 4 (left heading up the hill).

As I crested turn 5, I noticed the CTR2 off in the grass. He also ran wide (across the rumble strip) in turn 6, so I had the opportunity to pass him without altering my line. He pulled along side me down the straight, but braked early and didn't affect my entry into turn 7 aside from my approach being a bit to the right.

I came through the tight right well and passed the Yellow Bird on the outside around turn 8. I was able to get in front of him, so he didn't challenge or take me off my line through the small curves prior to the all important left-hand turn 11.

I shot past the R390 and the C8 after turn 14 as they braked for turn 15. Because my line was now off, I also had to brake a bit for turn 15. Normally, I only had to coast the corner entry before getting back on the gas for the chute straight. My Protege got me through the hairpin as well as ever and I was hard back on the gas as I checked my rear-view to see if I was in the clear. The R390 had outbraked the C8 into the hairpin and had taken 2nd place.

I had a 1.516 second lead on him at the S/F, so I knew I was in the clear for a uninterrupted 2nd lap. That said, I was only able to come within 0.500 of my average practice lap as noted earlier. :indiff:

MOV: 5.411
Splits:
1T1: 28.191
1T2: 51.948
2T1: 21.609
2T2: 44.959

Time submitted.

Have a happy and safe 4th everyone!

qb
 
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