Sciaru BRZFRS (BreezeFrees)

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Zenith013
Anyone else feel like the new one looks a bit more... Korean?
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What do you mean? Define Korean because I have no idea what you are going on about.
 
That's about 100kg lighter than Autocar had guessed. Pretty impressive. That's roughly the same weight as a RenaultSport Clio 200 Cup, despite having a bigger body and RWD drivetrain.
 
boomee
the driver said you sure it wasnt a colaboration between subaru and lotus LOLOL
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That wouldn't surprise me actually. Lotus did develop the chassis/handling for the Supra and MR2 (which models, i'm not sure)
 
TheCracker
That wouldn't surprise me actually. Lotus did develop the chassis/handling for the Supra and MR2 (which models, i'm not sure)
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As far as I remember, Lotus was originally tasked with developing the Mk1 MR2 but Toyota took over fairly early in development when Lotus started running out of money.

Pity, as one of the AW11's biggest problems is rust. No such worries with a Lotus-esque fiberglass body...

Of course, Lotus then eventually made it's own MR2 and called it the Elise.
 
Everything seems to be 'A-Ok' with the car from a mechanical standpoint, honestly the biggest sticking point is going to be the price. If they're going to skimp on the options with the base model, as the training manual leak seems to suggest, I can't see the thing starting much beyond $21K.

Even if Toyota is suggesting that they want to put a decent buffer between it and the Scion tC, it would seem unwise to have the price climb too far into the $20K territory for fear of the Genesis Coupe and Mustang V6. In my mind, a nicely-trimmed car (power windows/locks, 4-speaker stereo with CD/iPod, carpet floor mats and fog lamps) shouldn't run much more than $23K out the door. Anything beyond that is far too much, no matter how good the car may be.
 
TheCracker
That wouldn't surprise me actually. Lotus did develop the chassis/handling for the Supra and MR2 (which models, i'm not sure)
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it wasnt from lotus at all what the driver was infering is that the car handles very nice but wistful thinking I suppose
 
boomee
it wasnt from lotus at all what the driver was infering is that the car handles very nice but wistful thinking I suppose
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What..? :odd: You know that drunken posting is bad, mmkay?
 
Some charts and translations from ft86club members so all credit goes to them:
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Scans from a training manual.

Power/weight:

HP: 147kw (200ps) / 200hp @7000rpm
Torque: 205nm (151 lb/ft) @ 6600rpm
Weight:

2662 ponds (1210kg) for base manual (~ 2580 lbs dry weight)
2706 pounds for higher trim manual


Columns:
First 2 column are for "small FR sport", column 1 is a higher spec model, column 2 is a lower spec model. 3rd column is Mx5/Miata, 4th is RX8 and last is CRZ. It's a comparison chart.

Top Section:
The top section is the dimension in mm, length width height wheelbase, ground clearance then number of seats. Next is weight.
Top spec manual is 1230kg, auto is 1250kg.
Low spec manual is 1210kg, auto is 1230kg.
Then its turning radius.
High spec rides on 17" wheels and low spec on 16.

Second Section:
This section is engine. Boxer 4 DOHC, 1998cc. Output as listed on 1st post above. Drinks unleaded and 50L fuel tank.

Fuel consumption base model:
13 km/l
30.58 mpg
49.21 kmg

Fuel consumption top model:
12.4 km/l
29.17 mpg
46.94 kmg

Third Section:
This section is front engine/rear drive, transmission type, suspension type, brake then tyre size.

High spec brakes: ventilated discs front and rear.
Low spec brakes: ventilated front, non ventilated rear.

Last Section:
Last section is equipment which is not that easy to understand. First thing I notice is top spec has LSD for manual and auto while low spec only has LSD on manual. I'll post more if I can read more.


More update:

Both spec have VSC, front passenger and front and rear curtain bags. Top spec has front LED, leather steering wheel, 6 speakers audio (low spec has 2 speakers), white rev counter with shift light and sport pedals. Top spec also has "smart entry and start".
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Things of note:

Strut front, double wishbone rear suspension
Base halogens, optional HIDs on base trim, standard HIDs on high trim
LSD on all MT cars
Stability control standard
Only 2 speaker audio on base car

High Spec:
Has "high-quality fabric" (上級ファブリック).
Option for leather heated seats with Alcantara inserts.
Steel door sill insert
Interior metallic door handle inserts
Carbon fiber center console trim
Door courtesy light
?Knee pad?

The "Customize Grade" at the bottom is interesting:
- Unpainted bumper
- 16 steelies (says ornament-included, guessing it includes the logo)
- plastic steering wheel
- NO A/C (only a heater)
- Power door locks
- Sunvisor (no vanity mirror)
- No speakers
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Nice 👍

Though since when has the CR-Z had a V4 engine?... :odd:

Interesting the last bit about the very low spec - clearly designed for people who'd chuck on their own wheels, seat, steering wheel etc anyway. Bit like the RS Mitsubishi Evos, designed for club rally drivers.

It's a pity they'd never sell anything that basic in the UK. I don't want all the crap that comes with a lot of modern cars.
 
Since racecar, I mean, always. Can only assume it's a bored out version of their 1.2L motorcycle motor.
 
eSZee
Since racecar, I mean, always. Can only assume it's a bored out version of their 1.2L motorcycle motor.
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You're definitely joking, right? It's just a hybrid version of the Fit's 1.5 inline-4. I don't think any car company has used V4s since the mid 1960s...
 
Oh, guess I am. googled cr-z v4 and got hits and sites stating a v4.
Sounded weird to me but MY BAD.

more ft86club stuff:

the car in fact does require premium unleaded gas (無鉛プレミアム)
the rear seat is one piece and is foldable (一体可動式）
did anyone mention that the high spec model comes with a digital speedo and tachometer? (デジタルスピードメーター　revメーター）
random interior bits included in the high spec model:
stainless door scuff plate? (ステンレス製ドアスカッフプレート）
some kind of mesh carbon interior panels
metal plated inside door handles（メッキインサイドドアハンドル）
door courtesy lamp？（ドアカーテシランプ）
knee pad (ニーパッド）
the "customize grade" bare bones model is 1190 kg
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Dayum. This car is definitely one of those ones making me wish I'd started climbing the career ladder a bit earlier so I could afford it when it arrives. Only consolation I guess is that I may get to drive one as part of my job.
 
homeforsummer
Dayum. This car is definitely one of those ones making me wish I'd started climbing the career ladder a bit earlier so I could afford it when it arrives. Only consolation I guess is that I may get to drive one as part of my job.
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Ditto, however it's nice to know by the time I can afford one there will be several sitting on used car lots for about $12k.
 
I'd love to find out more about the 'bare bones' model on the bottom left of the photo. I'm glad Toyota made a consideration for those who just want a track-day car, without any features such as speakers and alloys. It doesn't even have any body-coloured bumpers. Sweet. :)

Also, the colour chart has been revealed on the FT86 forum:
We also have a nice picture of the dash.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2105

- Satin White Pearl
- Sterling Silver Metallic
- Dark Grey Metallic
- Crystal Black Silica
- Lightening Red
- Orange Metallic
- Galaxy Blue Silica
 
Only things I've found about the custom trim level are listed above in post 728.
 
I think it'll be a case of seeing both in the metal. Given that I tend to prefer cleaner, less adorned designs, I expect the Toyota will still be my choice of the two.

Not to mention it's simpler and cheaper, which is the whole point.
 
-> Alright! The Subieyota or should I say, the BRZ (Concept) is here!

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^ And I must say, I like it a whole lot better! 👍

~> Your turn Scion! :sly:
 
Nah, still not really my bag. The rear arch treatment is a little cleaner than the Toyota and light design aside the back seems the same, but the front of the Subaru looks a little heavy-handed next to the Toyota.

I'm sure they won't all have the massive spoiler either but it looks like an afterthought.
 
Back of it look good. Front of it is LOLWUT.
 

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