Senna content coming soon?

[JogoAsobi]

He also helped develop the Prelude, at the time there were comercials with him driving a prelude.

Yes, I remember those from when I lived in Japan. Forgot he had a home in Portugal.
Anyways my point was that there is/was more than one "Senna NSX" and color.

Ayrton Senna Honda Prelude TV Commercial (Japan)

 

[Rodrigo Nunes]

Look at it this way, PD is working. They are doing something. Getting licenses and contracts, modeling and developing things take a long time...they are doing it. I have no doubt about that.

The only problem is that KAz and PD does'nt like to comunicate with the gamers, unlike other developers. So by that, we are left clueless.

Everyone was dead sure nothing would happen May 1st, comes may 1st and we get (confirmation of) an awesome car and confirmation that there will be Senna content in May.

Its just that. Things will happen but not in our time. In theirs. Just like every other developer. The only diference is that PD does not comunicate what their time is. Which frustrates just about everyone.

 

[axl54]

According to the 'Ayrton's Wish' film, Kaz travelled all the way to Brazil and talked to everyone at the Institute, in part to attempt to figure out how to integrate Senna into Gran Turismo........ so Time Trial, & possible white knuckle 'race' against the zombie-chicane bots it is then

Goddamn Kaz is either completely deluded or just full of it.

 

[Squach240]

The only problem is that KAz and PD does'nt like to comunicate with the gamers, unlike other developers. So by that, we are left clueless.

Pretty much like every other Japanese dev studio.

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

I do hope that this DLC comes on time, though. In school, we have to meet our deadlines or we fail, whether it's grade 1 it college.

Please, PD, don't set your own due date and fail to meet it...

 

[MatheusBond]

Pretty much like every other Japanese dev studio.

The Last Guardian, anyone?

 

[gregorius93]

Don't know if this is common knowledge or not because I only noticed this today, but Senna's 1988 Racing Gear is already in-game priced at 500,000 credits in the special outfits !!

yeah I have it since the first update

 

[Imari]

...comes may 1st and we get (confirmation of) an awesome car and confirmation that there will be Senna content in May.

For some reason everybody seems to think that they now have more information than they had before.

PD never stated categorically that the Lotus was part of the DLC. They put some pictures up. Any connection being made is solely in the minds of the readers, just as PD usually operates.

We already knew that the plan was to have Senna content in May. Now we know that the plan is to have Senna content in May. Woo. We still don't know any more about this Senna content, just that they've narrowed the window to the last week and a half of May. Given their release "schedule" so far, anyone could have guessed that it would be late in the month at best.

The May 1st news release told us basically no new information, apart from that they're not all asleep. At least one person had to be awake to make those posts.

 

[NOSWaster]

So... is anyone of the theory that a reason we haven't gotten a lot of content since February is due in part to this partnership and the small tribute video they did to him? I mean, it wasn't all done in one weekend, was it?

 

[GTP_CargoRatt]

Disregard.

 

[CarreraGT]

No, I like F1. I actually have F1 2013 and just couldn't for the life of me get into it. I probably shouldn't have said yuck though, it's not like the game is bad.

I agree that the F1 franchise is really screaming out for next gen consoles but I think Codemasters have done a bloody job with the game.

F1 2010 was good at the time and it's gotten better each year. I'm hanging out for F1 2014 on ps4 (even though the cars will sound like crap). Could be a good year for racing sims

 

[wowbaggerBR]

So... is anyone of the theory that a reason we haven't gotten a lot of content since February is due in part to this partnership and the small tribute video they did to him? I mean, it wasn't all done in one weekend, was it?

Nope. Poliphony doesn't produce videos, so the documentary wouldn't cause any trouble for them. And, personally, I do believe that the content was recorded a while ago.

 

[ProjectWHaT]

Nope. Poliphony don't produce videos, so the documentary wouldn't cause any trouble for them. And, personally, I do believe that the content was recorded a while ago.

I agree. A bunch of the footage can be seen in the GT6 intro.

 

[MatheusBond]

I agree that the F1 franchise is really screaming out for next gen consoles but I think Codemasters have done a bloody job with the game.

F1 2010 was good at the time and it's gotten better each year. I'm hanging out for F1 2014 on ps4 (even though the cars will sound like crap). Could be a good year for racing sims

I loved F1 2010 back then, as I did 2011. I skipped 2012 though (and it seemed like a good thing: people complained about the handling, I think). But 2013 has something weird about the handling that made me dislike it plenty. It's very prone to understeer for some reason. I hope they do a good job on next gen.

 

[Tenacious D]

Just like it's unfair of PD to capitalize on Senna's name?
I'll send the Senna institute $5. I'm sure that's much more than they receive from the copy of GT6 I bought.

This is being rather petty, not to mention cheap. Waving your burger money around, which I sincerely doubt you'll donate to anyone but yourself, makes your post rather small minded. If you're going to talk charity, don't play kiddy ball. Man up like I do, and give roughly $1500-plus a year to charity, because I actually want to change this disappointing dirtball as much as a mere peon can. Score digs against PD some other way.

Good grief, PD does something really praiseworthy, and you have to be all like this...

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

TD, don't worry yourself. The positive contributions of one person (like Senna) far outweigh the lack of contributions of some, and the small contributions that eSZee promised.


Or, in other words, just be glad. We're celebrating the life of Ayrton, and remembering him, not guilting people into donating to Ayrton's institution despite having purchased Gran Turismo 6, which is in and of itself a donation to Instituto do Senna.

 

[danardif1]

Personally... I think they've had the content schedule ready for ages, they wouldn't have made the initial announcement without knowing what cars they were getting hold of to scan etc,, which ones they had ready etc.

But with F1 cars it's notoriously tricky to get much time with them unless they are in private hands such as the Lotus. Also there is the potential snag that Kaz referenced in the initial announcement that McLaren hold Ayrton's image rights from 1988-1993, which are of course his prime years. Any retrospective of Ayrton has to include his McLaren era, and though I don't think McLaren are a tricky company to deal with, especially when it's essentially content that would promote them as well as their most successful driver and someone who Ron Dennis was especially close to, image rights are tricky legal things. That would have consumed time and resources. The light at the end of the tunnel being that we've already got his 1988 helmet and suit in game, which suggests some rights have been licenced to PD.

What I think we'll see this month -

- The Lotus obviously.
- Interlagos GP circuit and kart track
- A Senna-themed go-kart, either his actual one from the late 70's/early 80's World Championship exploits, or a themed one ala the Red Bull one.
- A McLaren (I think the '88 MP4/4 because of the suit)
- Seasonal events at some if not all of Monaco (Cote d'Azur), Monza, Interlagos, Nurburgring, Silverstone, Brands and Suzuka. All circuits ingame that Ayrton raced at, if not quite in the configurations we have ingame. Big prize money for gold times.
- Suits and helmets, both historical and connected to the Senna Foundation.

I hope for more, but I think this is realistic given the established content on GT6.

 

[Bo]

PD's gonna mess this up, I'm sure of it. I don't even trust them one tiny bit.

Same exact feeling.

You can be very happy then when they don't.

 

[Johnnypenso]

Or, in other words, just be glad. We're celebrating the life of Ayrton, and remembering him, not guilting people into donating to Ayrton's institution despite having purchased Gran Turismo 6, which is in and of itself a donation to Instituto do Senna.

Technically no. The phrase was, "a portion of the profits", not "a portion of the revenue". The game has sold 1/3 of any previous title and it's being discounted already. I'd be very surprised if all of that revenue didn't get eaten up by development costs + Sony + retailers...and then some. Meaning of course, no profits = no donations.

So @eSZee is almost certainly correct that $5 is more than they Institute will receive from GT6.

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

This is true, but surely they're at least breaking even?

 

[Bo]

This is true, but surely they're at least breaking even?

I find it hard to think that PD are making huge losses on this.

 

[RACECAR]

One thing I thought was weird is how the first suit for Senna in the game is not his suit from the Team Lotus portion of his career, but his suit from the McLaren portion of his career. That would be just odd to have the suit and not the car itself (likewise strange to have the 97T and not his matching suit).

 

[Bo]

Well... they did say "among" new content...

 

[Tenacious D]

You can be very happy then when they don't.

I hate to say this, but I hope you're right.

I want to see racing events, more for the others than me because Formula 1 racing and other superfast types give me the shakes. Still, I watch these vids of Senna working his magic and pushing his car harder than perhaps is wise, and it is exhilarating. Of course, this means a bot A.I. tweak, but from the experiences of dozens of bot racers, we can see that there's a core of good code that just needs to be free of the straightjacket and polished up. Lord knows there's as much caterwauling about the sounds as the bots around here, so PD knows the level of satisfaction. And I expect for there to be racing. It's rather hard to think of a game addition based on a man who made it his life's work to be a little faster than the guy in front of him that doesn't involve racing. Samus has mentioned Formula 1's dire licensing restrictions, so I expect Kaz to have worked on something in this regard.

 

[Imari]

I find it hard to think that PD are making huge losses on this.

There's a substantial difference between "huge loss" and "breaking even".

 

[Bo]

There's a substantial difference between "huge loss" and "breaking even".

I know, because I was reaffirming his point. @ITCC_Andrew said breaking even "at least", and anything less then breaking even is a loss.

 

[Imari]

I know, because I was reaffirming his point. @ITCC_Andrew said breaking even "at least", and anything less then breaking even is a loss.

Do I need to point out there also a substantial difference between a loss, even by a dollar, and a "huge loss"?

We don't know if they're breaking even or not. As you say, it's highly unlikely that they're making a huge loss, but that tells us nothing about whether they're making a profit, breaking even, or making a small loss.

GT5 was expensive. We don't know how much GT6 cost, nor do we know exactly how much it's sold. It has been discounted very, very early, and we know it hasn't sold in great quantity like GT5 did. With the costs of licensing all that content and 3 years worth of salaries and all the rest of it, it's entirely within the realms of plausibility that they're making a small loss on GT6.

 

[doblocruiser]

This is being rather petty, not to mention cheap. Waving your burger money around, which I sincerely doubt you'll donate to anyone but yourself, makes your post rather small minded. If you're going to talk charity, don't play kiddy ball. Man up like I do, and give roughly $1500-plus a year to charity, because I actually want to change this disappointing dirtball as much as a mere peon can. Score digs against PD some other way.

Good grief, PD does something really praiseworthy, and you have to be all like this...

What makes you think that your 1500,- is more important than another man's 5,- ?

 

[FoRiZon]

 

[TokoTurismo]

You can be very happy then when they don't.

Expecting PD to do something really awesome with this is only bringing youself into disappointment, especially them screwing up the sound of the Lotus. Even though it's Ayrton Senna, I still can't see PD doing good with the content.

But I'm sure lot's of folks here has their expectations low, due to PD's record...