Shift Lock ?

DG5 DRIFTER

DG5 DRIFTER

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I was just wondering is it possible to shift lock on Gt4 if so I think I did it on Tsukuba circuit wet on the last turn in a JZX100."Please tell me if it is possible or I can't do it because there isn't a clutch"I was also reading the different ways to do shift lock.:)
 
JZX100=Chaser
Shift Lock- this is performed by letting the revs drop upon downshift into a corner and then releasing the clutch to put stress on the driveline to slow the rear tires inducing over steer. (this is like pulling the E-brake through a turn - note: this is best to be performed in the wet to minimize damage to the driveline etc)

Shift Lock Drift
1. Enter a turn at a speed too high for the vehicle to handle (if you do not drift, your vehicle should experience understeer at this speed).
2. Turn your wheels into the turn and quickly downshift into a lower gear (2nd gear).
3. By quickly downshifting (but not Heel-Toe Downshifting) you will put stress on the driveline, causing the vehicle to slow down and your engine rpms to increase.
4. After downshifting, quickly get on the throttle causing your wheels to break traction, sending your vehicle into a drift.
5. When you feel the vehicle’s rear end kicking out, immediately countersteer the wheels to face straight with the road. Your vehicle will pull in the direction of the front wheels, as long as the wheels are still moving. Keep on the throttle. If you press the brakes or let off the throttle because your vehicle is in an extremely oversteered condition, you will spin out or leave the road.
6. When you wish to straighten out your car, after completing the drift, let off the throttle smoothly and straighten out the wheels as your vehicle kicks in line behind the front tires.
 
It is possible....though it is very hard to execute without the aid of a clutch...I have been able to shift lock before but it isn't a technique i use a lot....
 
now i know what you're talking about :D i think i have experienced something similar in my Evo 7 GSR, i just dropped down a gear and floored it, it started to drift :) is shift lock similar to powering over then?
 
I always though that shift lock is where you don't shift at all. but drift using high RPMs.
 
Shift lock is dropping down a gear while traveling faster than you can go in that gear.
That makes the rear end lock up momentarily, and as your lose speed you regain traction gradually.
The bonus is you're at the top end of the torque range for the gear you just dropped into, allowing you to easily overpower your available traction and smoothly enter a sustainable drift.

At least that's my take on it.

...and yes it does work in GT4, but I've only been able to use it predictably when running a 60/60/60 diff.
 
thats good because i knew i shift locked but i didn't think it was possible and i know what shift lock is thanks for making me know that i was right because i was kind of on the i don't know side but now i know i did it.
 
LOL no way man how can you shift lock without clutch did u watch Drift King drift bible? its state shift lock is work with clutch cos the gearbox when you shift down it will lock suddenly for awhile to cos the rear to lock its similar to braking drift.
 
wow there is a ton of misinformation in this thread.
shift lock is when you shift from a higher gear to a lower gear without revmatching.(and not slipping the clutch, you just let it out fast)(IE from 4th to 3rd) and yes you need to be in the lower gears speed range or youll over rev your engine, possibly killing it. since you dont rev match the downshift, it upsets the cars balance shifting weight to the front and locking the rear tires for a moment. since this is a technique that involves use of the clutch, it isnt possible in gt4. ill post a video to show the proper way to use shift lock.
 
Suzuki
wow there is a ton of misinformation in this thread.
shift lock is when you shift from a higher gear to a lower gear without revmatching.(and not slipping the clutch, you just let it out fast)(IE from 4th to 3rd) and yes you need to be in the lower gears speed range or youll over rev your engine, possibly killing it. since you dont rev match the downshift, it upsets the cars balance shifting weight to the front and locking the rear tires for a moment. since this is a technique that involves use of the clutch, it isnt possible in gt4. ill post a video to show the proper way to use shift lock.
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Very nice Suzuki!But...
...yes in gt4 we don't have clutch but in the game when you downshift entering a corner(with a litle help with the steering of course) you 'll see that the car reacts like you shift locked..the wheels they dont exacly lock but the loss of their speed (with steering help) make the car goes sideways!..i think the programers had shift lock in their mind when build the gt4 physics but they didnt make it out ...
i like very much using this "technic" together with weight transision to entering corners..
 
the game automatically revmatches while downshifting to prevent spinouts when entering a corner, therefore the car reacts like its supposed to. ive never experienced a spinout while grip racing by just downshifting while braking entering a corner. if it worked any, then you would notice it while grip racing.
 
Suzuki
the game automatically revmatches while downshifting to prevent spinouts when entering a corner, therefore the car reacts like its supposed to. ive never experienced a spinout while grip racing by just downshifting while braking entering a corner. if it worked any, then you would notice it while grip racing.
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i didnt told that you spin out if you downshift..
i told that the downshift entering a corner make the wheels have loss in their speed(not locked) plus the steering help(you cant make it out without it,perhaps the steering work creates and a litle weight transfer we can say)makes the car slide the tail out...that its clear if you try while you are entering a corner sideways(sector before applying in gas)and as the revs falling downshift another gear, you will see that the result of that downshift was to make the tail go out litle further...ok you dont spinout but you feel that the tail has moved sideways as reaction..i think that i can say is shift lock in gt4..i know its not like KING keichi show us...
 
night madness there are different ways to shift lock Dori kin just used the clutch.
this is the other way to do it.
Shift Lock Drift
This is performed by letting the revs drop on downshift into a corner and then releasing the clutch to put stress on the driveline to slow the rear tires inducing over steer. This is like pulling the E-brake through a turn, but this should be performed on wet ground to minimize damage to the driveline. Similar drifting technique to Clutch Kicking.
 
dorykiiing
i didnt told that you spin out if you downshift..
i told that the downshift entering a corner make the wheels have loss in their speed(not locked) plus the steering help(you cant make it out without it,perhaps the steering work creates and a litle weight transfer we can say)makes the car slide the tail out...that its clear if you try while you are entering a corner sideways(sector before applying in gas)and as the revs falling downshift another gear, you will see that the result of that downshift was to make the tail go out litle further...ok you dont spinout but you feel that the tail has moved sideways as reaction..i think that i can say is shift lock in gt4..i know its not like KING keichi show us...
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yes, but if there truely is shiftlock in gt4, then you would be able to tell when grip racing. if your driving the car on its edge, and downshift without revmatching this will upset the balance of the car, thus most likely causing a spinout.
because there is no clutch in gt4, means that you cannot preform shift lock technique. end of story. gt4 ALWAYS revmatches when downshifting. it can NOT be preformed. there is pretty much only one way to do shift lock. that is exactly what dorikin is doing.
 
DG5 DRIFTER
night madness there are different ways to shift lock Dori kin just used the clutch.
this is the other way to do it.
Shift Lock Drift
This is performed by letting the revs drop on downshift into a corner and then releasing the clutch to put stress on the driveline to slow the rear tires inducing over steer. This is like pulling the E-brake through a turn, but this should be performed on wet ground to minimize damage to the driveline. Similar drifting technique to Clutch Kicking.
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HUH? what are you talking about shift lock is perform using clutch of shifting down only, ok even you say can perform shift lock i tell you theres no way man cos the creator of GT can't make the effect so real to make the rear lock by shifting down and what does you mean by > This is like pulling the E-brake through a turn, but this should be performed on wet ground to minimize damage to the driveline. Similar drifting technique to Clutch Kicking. < LOL e-brake is e-brake drift and clutch kicking is not a tec on drifting its only to make the rev more during corners you play D1GP theres demo on clutch kicking. So that's all <(^(OO)^)>
 
Your are right gt4 does rev match all time.
it is like a ebrake by locking up the back tires you gotta think.
i know what clutch kick is.
and thanks suzuki i know that you are right when you said that the rev always match
 
DG5 DRIFTER
you are right when you said that the rev always match
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...and that is why you drop the gear when going about 15 to 20 mph faster than the gear you're going into can do.
It's the only way to get the rear end to cause drag without having to use the brake.

The nice thing is that this isn't real life, it's just a game so you won't blow your engine.
Gotta remember the difference between the two. ;)
 
Agent Smith
...and that is why you drop the gear when going about 15 to 20 mph faster than the gear you're going into can do.
It's the only way to get the rear end to cause drag without having to use the brake.

The nice thing is that this isn't real life, it's just a game so you won't blow your engine.
Gotta remember the difference between the two. ;)
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That is far from the point, without a clutch there is no shift locking at all. It doesn't matter if you think the effect is the same, the tecnique is extremely different. It's like saying a cashew is the same as a peanut because it tastes similar. They may seem a lot alike but they're grown completely differently.
 
DG5 DRIFTER
night madness there are different ways to shift lock Dori kin just used the clutch.
this is the other way to do it.
Shift Lock Drift
This is performed by letting the revs drop on downshift into a corner and then releasing the clutch to put stress on the driveline to slow the rear tires inducing over steer. This is like pulling the E-brake through a turn, but this should be performed on wet ground to minimize damage to the driveline. Similar drifting technique to Clutch Kicking.
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huh? try to produce a video because I'm going to do that right now based on your guy's post.
 
don't chew my head off here, but shift lock seems to work in the snow.
i recently completed the hard versions of both snow tracks and i downshifted to get sideways.

this was a few days ago. I don't have my ps2 with me at the moment, so i can't check to be sure but thats what i remember. it was in the 03 imprezza rally car if it makes a difference.
 
grip~drift
don't chew my head off here, but shift lock seems to work in the snow.
i recently completed the hard versions of both snow tracks and i downshifted to get sideways.

this was a few days ago. I don't have my ps2 with me at the moment, so i can't check to be sure but thats what i remember. it was in the 03 imprezza rally car if it makes a difference.
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I'm going to say this one more freakin time:grumpy:
you can't shift lock and never will shift lock no matter what car just like Suzuki said the game matches rev altime and there isn't a clutch so you can't do nothing about it accept the truth and that is that so no more you can or can't! :grumpy:
 
DG5 DRIFTER
I'm going to say this one more freakin time:grumpy:
you can't shift lock and never will shift lock no matter what car just like Suzuki said the game matches rev altime and there isn't a clutch so you can't do nothing about it accept the truth and that is that so no more you can or can't! :grumpy:
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DID YOU TRY IT, and see what happens. No need to get grumpy about it.
 

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