Should "Older" Models Be Updated?

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When I mean newer I mean by year. An example would be the Dodge Viper SRT-10. As we all know, the Viper in the game is the 06 model which features only 510 hp. Shouldn't PD update the Viper with the 08 model that has 600 hp, better vented hood, more torque, etc...?

The reason why I gave an example of the Viper is because it is something that I believe PD won't have any trouble updating. All you have to do is just change some exterior differences and variables for the performance and viola!

I'm sure there are other car examples but the Viper one is one of the bests I'm trying to convey my point across. Besides, you would be crazy if you rather drive the 06 model rather than the faster and better 09 one. :crazy:

Thoughts?
 
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Depending on how advanced/complex PD's model is, the 08 Viper might not be that easy (but easier than an all new car). I get you're point though, and I agree. We should get the 06, 08, and ACR in GT5. Same for other cars, but the Viper is most important lol.
 
regoon
Besides, you would be crazy if you rather drive the 06 model rather than the faster and better 09 one. :crazy:

Thoughts?
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Crazy? Just because the newer model is faster, doesn't mean it's better. ;) I enjoy driving the '02 Viper a alot more than the SRT-10 in the game.

Like the man said: "the enjoyment of driving it is something that cannot be expressed in numbers". :D
 
This idea will just end the GT series forever. New game+New car models=more money. Same game+updated car models=money/2 >
 
EJRocky
I'd rather drive a 1967 Cobra than the 2004 version.

Take me away to the loony bin, doc! :rolleyes:
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now the only reason i'm quoting this is because PD had the ac and shelby cobras identical in gt4 now correct me if i'm wrong but i don't think irl the british version was anywhere near as fast....
 
I prefer to have different models from different years to be able to compare performances etc ...

GT as a driving simulator give the possibility to drive different cars models and that makes sense, the only problem in my opinion is like GT4 if we have alots of repeated models (skylines, RX-7...) again in GT5.
 
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I prefer to have different models from different years to be able to compare performances etc ...

GT as a driving simulator give the possibility to drive different cars models and that makes sense, the only problem in my opinion is like GT4 if we have alots of repeated models (skylines, RX-7...) again in GT5.
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problem? I don't see a problem if we have both. I do agree though the 1992 3 4 and 5 civic vti's had no differences expect maybe mileage but if you look at say the 1992 3 4 5 6 and 7 impreza wrx's and evo's there are somewhat noticeable differences so there are somewhat reasonable grounds to include them imo.
 
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with downloadable content, this really could be a reality if PD keep up with it.

I don't think anyone could scoff at getting more cars and varients, even if the changes are simply adding new colours or wheels introduced in real.
 
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Dijital Majik
with downloadable content, this really could be a reality if PD keep up with it.

I don't think anyone could scoff at getting more cars and varients, even if the changes are simply adding new colours or wheels introduced in real.
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and they'd make hella money this way too and keep alot of people happy.👍
 
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I think (hoping) that we will see the ACR Viper,and some newer Mustangs,along with some newer models from across the pond.
 
Ugh. I just noticed my thread title should be "older" and not "newer". :(

Anyway, I'm a firm believer that cars should have their best equipment and performance. When I look at the lap records online, there are cars that will always beat other cars consistently. For the sake of understanding, lets just say car A always beats car B. This makes me sad because I know car B has better variants which can most likely help them beat car A.

And just to make sure we are on the same page:
What I mean:
997's model starting from 2004/5 to present. <-- Use the best updated form for this 997 model.

What I don't mean: Use 997 over 996. No, because these two are "different" cars.

Oh and one of the reasons why I used the Viper as an example is because it is also my favorite super car. 👍

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600hp version.
 
The fact that the 2008 Viper ACR holds the Nurburgring lap record pretty much guarantees it will be in GT5, and separate from the base 2008/09 regular Viper models. I don't think the concept '06 Viper in GT5P is close to what the ACR can do. Regardless, I am waiting as patiently as possible for GT5 to be released.
 
http://www.fastestlaps.com/index.php?page_id=compare&car1=46f221c68c759&car2=458beafb60ef3

Viper SRT-10 (600hp) Viper SRT-10
Max speed 197.78 m/h (319 km/h) 189.72 m/h (306 km/h)
0-100 km/h acceleration 3.7 4.2
0-160 km/h acceleration 7.6 8.5
0-200 km/h acceleration 11.5 13.8
0-300 km/h acceleration 46.6 -
Quarter mile time 11.6 11.8
Power/weight ratio 0.29 0.23


What's new: (Car and Driver's concise specs)

- Bigger intake nostrils which increases the power by 20%.

- Variable valve timing helps to expel more hot air.

- 8.3 L to 8.4 L. Staying true to the "bigger is badder" theme.

- New dual-disc clutch that Dodge says offers an 18-percent reduction in rotational inertia, and lower clutch-pedal effort to go with it.

- Transmission is upgraded as well, with stronger gears and upgraded synchros to improve shift quality.

- Quicker-acting limited-slip differential to better put down the snake's power.

- 6 vented hood to dissipate the heat.

- Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 rubber.

All of this contribute to the 09 model being better.
 
"the Viper in the game is the 06 model which features only 510 hp"

Only 510hp :-) makes me chuckle that it`s still not enough for some of us!
 
I think it's too much of an effort to include all the latest versions from all cars still in production. Say there are 200, maybe 300 cars still in production in the final GT5. If only half of those models are slightly revised every year (slight aero changes, 5 hp more, etc), they would have to make up to 150 new cars each year WITHOUT making new ones.

In my opinion it's enough to include the spec in which the model first came out and one current one, if it has significantly changed in the meantime. Or, as an alternative, one version that is generally seen as a 'classic' one for one particular model.
 
Some cars can just be updated and the old model removed. Recent Vipers I think you can just update them rather than having an 06 model, 07 model AND 08 model. I really wanna drive the newest ACR as well as just a regular street version, but I'm not too fussed about having all the old ones in. However some cars should stay instead of just being updated, such as the older 90's vipers which had a completely different body shape.

Personally I'm not too fussed about having the latest and greatest model of a car unless its a significant upgrade on the previous model (like the 600hp viper vs the 500hp ones of a few years ago, or the ACR vs a regular viper).
 
I agree that the ACR Viper will most likely be in the game but at the same time, I'm not sure if the base model (600 hp) will be though.

Don't get me wrong, but I really really really hope the base coupe of the 08 Viper will be in the game. If the ACR is in the game, this might give PD the initiative to not include the base since ACR and the 05 models are completely different and maybe that is what they want, "variety".

If I were PD, I would just do away with the 05 model and include both 600 hp of base and ACR. 👍
 
premhz
"the Viper in the game is the 06 model which features only 510 hp"

Only 510hp :-) makes me chuckle that it`s still not enough for some of us!
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Sadly, it is not. At least not in the American mindset. 👍

More power, the better. :sly:
 
Rob192005
now the only reason i'm quoting this is because PD had the ac and shelby cobras identical in gt4 now correct me if i'm wrong but i don't think irl the british version was anywhere near as fast....
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The AC and Shelby Cobra 427 were exactley the same car with different badges and the steering wheel on different sides. AC and Shelby both made different versions of the Cobra and at the time the 427 was made that was the fastest and most powerful. There's plenty of Cobras since that will wipe the floor with the 427 on a track though.

regoon
Ugh. I just noticed my thread title should be "older" and not "newer".
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Have no fear, if you edit your first post in the edit post screen the thread title will be in bar above where the body of your post is and you can just change the thread title in that bar and then submit like a normal reply and hey prestoo, the thread title should be changed.
 
Dave A
Have no fear, if you edit your first post in the edit post screen the thread title will be in bar above where the body of your post is and you can just change the thread title in that bar and then submit like a normal reply and hey prestoo, the thread title should be changed.
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Thanks, I changed it. 👍
 
-> Why replace or update cars? I say we should add them in, it gives a whole more variety! Like for example:

Bold-> denotes that particular car was featured in GT4:

Dodge (Neon) SRT-4: 215hp ('03); 230hp ('04-'05)
Dodge Viper SRT-10: 510hp ('03-'06); 600hp ('07-'10)
Chevrolet Corvette [C5] Z06: 385hp ('01); 405hp ('02-'04)

:)
 
The Vanishing Boy
-> Why replace or update cars? I say we should add them in, it gives a whole more variety! Like for example:

Bold-> denotes that particular car was featured in GT4:

Dodge (Neon) SRT-4: 215hp ('03); 230hp ('04-'05)
Dodge Viper SRT-10: 510hp ('03-'06); 600hp ('07-'10)
Chevrolet Corvette [C5] Z06: 385hp ('01); 405hp ('02-'04)

:)
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Agreed whole heartedly.👍
 
When you say "update", I hope you mean "add", not "replace".
 

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