should there be NOS on GT4

[Red Six]

NO

👍

 

[tha_con]

^^^ yet you haven't even played the game.

I was upset at first also, but it's impact on the game is SO minimal...you're making a big ol' fuss.

It is a part of car culture. Also, remember that GT isn't regulated SCCA racing, etc, which is why you can have severly overpowered cars in races...but of course I don't see anyone complaining about that...

If anything, I would say the people who say N20 is rice...are in fact saving face in the forum...because they are probably excited about it, lol.

 

[Taneras]

I just find it funny that people could complain about getting 100hp at the push of a button...

 

[Red Six]

^^^ yet you haven't even played the game.

I was upset at first also, but it's impact on the game is SO minimal...you're making a big ol' fuss.

It is a part of car culture. Also, remember that GT isn't regulated SCCA racing, etc, which is why you can have severly overpowered cars in races...but of course I don't see anyone complaining about that...

If anything, I would say the people who say N20 is rice...are in fact saving face in the forum...because they are probably excited about it, lol.

my point exactly, nitrous was used in muscle cars back in the 70's far before "rice" hit the streets...

 

[Taneras]

my point exactly, nitrous was used in muscle cars back in the 70's far before "rice" hit the streets...

I was always under the understand that "rice" was tasteless body kits/rims/euro's/neons/paintjobs/spoilers/etc. I wasn't aware that certain performance upgrades were considered rice...

 

[Red Six]

I was always under the understand that "rice" was tasteless body kits/rims/euro's/neons/paintjobs/spoilers/etc. I wasn't aware that certain performance upgrades were considered rice...

dont forget go-fast stickers 👍

 

[Taneras]

dont forget go-fast stickers 👍

OOOO!!! OOOO!!! The ones that add 20hp???!!!

 

[FRST]

I said "rice" because most of the cars I see in Switzerland with NOS (which is illegal on a street car of course) are 1.6l engines and the guys who put it have tried it once and that's it..what a waste of money...
sorry if I mixed-up my real-life with the topic

still I think NOS has NOTHING to do in a proper race competition and should be used only for drag-racing like in real-life, I really don't see NOS used in JGTC

 

[FRST]

its funny how you say "nos" is "rice" yet there are loads of guys driving mustangs (just like the one in your avatar) that use "nos" and tons of other muscle cars that take advantage, I agree with one of the previous posts about turbos or supers, its the same thing as nitro just not constant, power addatives are power addatives

those guys do drag-racing with it just like I said....

 

[jervinator]

I read an old magazine article where Yamauchi-sama said he wanted the GT series to be an encyclopedia of automobilia. My take on that is that it means old cars, new cars, street cars, race cars, and all forms of modification. If you want to exclude NOS from GT, you may as well ban bolting turbos onto formerly non-turbo cars. Hell, you may as well ban all mods, as well as any cars you personally don't like!

If NOS is good enough for Yamauchi, it's good enough for me

 

[tha_con]

I said "rice" because most of the cars I see in Switzerland with NOS (which is illegal on a street car of course) are 1.6l engines and the guys who put it have tried it once and that's it..what a waste of money...
sorry if I mixed-up my real-life with the topic

still I think NOS has NOTHING to do in a proper race competition and should be used only for drag-racing like in real-life, I really don't see NOS used in JGTC

Well...since GT4 isn't about legal rules and proper racing, we'll be fine.

You my friend...are not a car enthusiast...in fact you are blinded by your ignorance and your first hand experiences.

I'm pretty sure, last time I checked, that GT4 isn't JGTC, otherwise there would be power restrictions, yet again I do not see you complaining about using overpowered cars against underpowered cars...interesting indeed.

 

[Gabkicks]

yeah, and dont forget about adding weight onto the car when you win races to make competition more even like in JGTC. do u guys want that


NOS is in... the developers have probably argued over it with eachother, testers and other people and have decided to empliment it.
its ok to say NOS because NOS is the namebrand in the game.
NOS NOS NOS!!!!!! ...........(NAWWWS!) Has anyone actually bothered to ask people who have the game if it is disturbing Gran turismo at all having NOS in the game?
Is it unfair? Does NOS replace good tuning? does Nos have any Negative aspects to it in the game?
I dunno... maybe my questions have been answered and just been ran over by other peoples arguments.


uh.... BOOBS!!! 👍

 

[tha_con]

I own the game, and as I said, if you don't use it, it doesn't exsist, because computer doesn't use it at all.

 

[Gabkicks]

there we go, argument over?

 

[RallyRacingFan]

I also own the game and I have seen no evidence that the computer uses it. So don't install it on your own car and like tha_con said - it doesn't exist.

Further I don't think it is any more unrealistic or unfair than adding a turbo kit or whatever to your car. You think driving a LM car against a bunch of sports or even normal cars is fair or realistic? Well GT4 lets you do that, so did GT3.

I think N2O adds an interesting dimension to road racing. How efficiently can you use your limited N2O to overcome a HP disadvantage against the AI? Can you win with a car that otherwise wouldn't have a hope?

Lastly I don't know why people are using their N2O at low speeds. Wouldn't you gain greater advantage using it at higher speeds?


Disclaimer: I have the game but haven't yet tried N2O, however this thread has definitely piqued my interest and I will have to give it a shot. I will see what it can and can't do.

 

[Red Six]

I also own the game and I have seen no evidence that the computer uses it. So don't install it on your own car and like tha_con said - it doesn't exist.

Disclaimer: I have the game but haven't yet tried N2O, however this thread has definitely piqued my interest and I will have to give it a shot. I will see what it can and can't do.

I dont mean to personally point you out, BUT you make the perfect example about what we were discussing earlier in this thread, how people that try to save face on the forum, just look at your last two sentences, im not afraid to say I WILL use nitro out the box, its part of the game so why not use it? I may decide to use the nitro in favor of the boost, know what I mean, and I will squeeze all over the AI

p.s. dont take it personally, its cool

 

[pussinboot]

Guys! Guys! listen...

Last nite I tried NOS on on the game .. here goes...
CAR: 99 H. s2000 with weight Stage 1, Flywheel, Exhaust improvement.. 265bhp.. plus the argued NOS / N2O or whatever its called...
Challenge: Pro Hall - Tuners Race...
GT4 Ver.: Chinese
Cockpit: A red gauge like the Fuel on the right of Tachco..Each R1 press reduce the amount.
A-spec Point: 200 pt (normally i just get 8~18 pts 4 other races)
1 Stage: Mid-valley
Description: rollin race start.. by the time i reached the chicane all the car r fast approaching the hairpins (that's how fast they were) I think those tuner's cars must hv a huge hp. Anyway thinking that i hv the ultimate (cheating) weapon.. i can blast them to pieces when i reach the long straight with a fast sweeping right curve after the hair pin rite? . i reached the straight.. I shift the next gear accordingly as the light lid.. i press the R1 button along.. a soft hissin is heard (like some gas is leaking) G#d d#mn! nothing happened (effect don't come in an instant like NFSU) hell no.. no effect at all except i notice with each gear i could reach a higher speed than normal..on 5th i could come aleast at 220km/h but that don't come like a magic show where a press & whoosh everything i see turn blur! no it come progressively... before there's any catch up on the packs I'm already out of straight tracks to NOS. So i tried it on the start long straight this time, Still hissing.. at 6th gear 260km/h + and already I have to down shift again! 👎 👎

So guys! no need to argue whether this is the ultimate (cheating) weapon on the GT4! NOS exist ! yes! super duper speed in an instant & blow the crap out from the competition - NO! you'll still require some decent upgrade in order to chase the pack down..yeah sure! my skill hv 2 take some bashing too.. but still it's not like the NOS in NFSU we used to see... the NOS does improves the speed (if the tracks allow) but only marginally i would say

 

[Red Six]

Guys! Guys! listen...

Last nite I tried NOS on on the game .. here goes...
CAR: 99 H. s2000 with weight Stage 1, Flywheel, Exhaust improvement.. 265bhp.. plus the argued NOS / N2O or whatever its called...
Challenge: Pro Hall - Tuners Race...
GT4 Ver.: Chinese
Cockpit: A red gauge like the Fuel on the right of Tachco..Each R1 press reduce the amount.
A-spec Point: 200 pt (normally i just get 8~18 pts 4 other races)
1 Stage: Mid-valley
Description: rollin race start.. by the time i reached the chicane all the car r fast approaching the hairpins (that's how fast they were) I think those tuner's cars must hv a huge hp. Anyway thinking that i hv the ultimate (cheating) weapon.. i can blast them to pieces when i reach the long straight with a fast sweeping right curve after the hair pin rite? . i reached the straight.. I shift the next gear accordingly as the light lid.. i press the R1 button along.. a soft hissin is heard (like some gas is leaking) G#d d#mn! nothing happened (effect don't come in an instant like NFSU) hell no.. no effect at all except i notice with each gear i could reach a higher speed than normal..on 5th i could come aleast at 220km/h but that don't come like a magic show where a press & whoosh everything i see turn blur! no it come progressively... before there's any catch up on the packs I'm already out of straight tracks to NOS. So i tried it on the start long straight this time, Still hissing.. at 6th gear 260km/h + and already I have to down shift again! 👎 👎

So guys! no need to argue whether this is the ultimate (cheating) weapon on the GT4! NOS exist ! yes! super duper speed in an instant & blow the crap out from the competition - NO! you'll still require some decent upgrade in order to chase the pack down..yeah sure! my skill hv 2 take some bashing too.. but still it's not like the NOS in NFSU we used to see... the NOS does improves the speed (if the tracks allow) but only marginally i would say

well put, maybe some people will re consider their stance?!

 

[JBR-Man]

Please do not mention NFSU . This forum deserves better things.

btw, my answer:

NOs

 

[Red Six]

Please do not mention NFSU . This forum deserves better things.

btw, my answer:

NOs

no NFSU talk= 👍 your answer about NOs= saving face 👎

 

[RallyRacingFan]

how people that try to save face on the forum, just look at your last two sentences

It isn't exactly like that. GT4 is a huge game, I haven't had as much time with it as I would have liked and have not gotten to every aspect of the game. I have driven only a few cars, done a couple of license tests, run two B-Spec races and taken one photo. My TV died the day I got GT4 so I have been playing when I can at my girlfriend's house, basically only a few hours total. My interest is in Rally racing so most of the time I have had with the game I was driving rallies. When you play GT4 you will understand the vast number of options and you, just like me, will not be able to try everything out in the first few hours. N2O was simply not on the top of my list of things to try, there are a wealth of other things in the game. I want to see how the AI drives, I want to see how the cars handle, I want to see what B-Spec is, play with the photos, drive in rallies etc. There is more to this game than a single optional part in the upgrade screen (which is what N2O is). I haven't tried out all the other optional performance parts yet either but I will.

But yes, people will try to save face on the forum. If you actually came to my house you would possibly find me driving an LM car in the Sunday Cup and having fun doing it! How else did you think I knew you could it?!

 

[Red Six]

But yes, people will try to save face on the forum. If you actually came to my house you would possibly find me driving an LM car in the Sunday Cup and having fun doing it! How else did you think I knew you could it?!

like i said dont take it personally

 

[JBR-Man]

I meant NO

the "s" was a typo.

 

[tha_con]

why? that's all I ask.

If you say anything about rice, or "proper racing" no one will listen. This is not an SCCA simulator with regulated rules. Certain races for certain cars, you upgrade as much as you can and viola, have a blast. So why not? Because popular trend suggests it to be a savior of racing? You know different, so why care? If you don't use it, you'll never see it.

I just don't see why you would think it's that bad. I would object more to body kits and decals, rather than another engine upgrade...but I'm sure a lot of the people who say N20 is "rice" think the opposite of me...funny thought isn't it...

 

[RallyRacingFan]

I would object more to body kits and decals, rather than another engine upgrade

Why would you object to body kits and decals? Maybe not 20hp go-fast stickers but what is wrong with cosmetic changes? A lot of people want to paint the cars and who hasn't changed a rim or two - isn't that just cosmetic? We'd all complain if the cars you bought came in white or something, we want to be able to choose custom colours. Different coloured cars are more visually appealing - a few decals might spice things up too. I play this game for four reasons:

1) To drive around
2) To race
3) To mess with the tuning setups
4) Just to look at the graphics

Decals and body kits can add to the enjoyment of the fourth aspect.

 

[sukebe]

Whats with the attitude to nitrous? I have been playing the game for almost a month. It has nitrous, I use nitrous, nitrous is cool. Entering a high A-spec point race with a nitrous car is a real challenge. Without the nitrous, my car is underpowered and I can't win. But with very strategic use of nitrous (eg. making that main straight passing move when popping out from the slipstream) its possible to win such races. It adds a further element to the game that can be used or ignored. Personally, I have found it a tactical buzz. For those who are so strongly against it, lose the Fast and Furious attitude boys! Just coz Vin Desiel had it and didn't disclose it before the race.......

 

[Minnesota01R6]

Nitrous + Racing cars around a circuit = Unrealistic.


That's why I don't like nitrous in the game. Using it in drag racing is one thing, but it plain isn't allowed in ANY road racing that I can think of when other cars are on track with you.

 

[VIPFREAK]

Why is this thread still moving? Look at the damn poll...

 

[pussinboot]

quote"Nitrous + Racing cars around a circuit = Unrealistic.
That's why I don't like nitrous in the game. Using it in drag racing is one thing, but it plain isn't allowed in ANY road racing that I can think of when other cars are on track with you."

Guys NOS is an option.
1)You can bloody race without it like a "proper" race as you guys mentioned = realistic race !
2)After you're done with the above now you can bloody start race around where you're painfully underpowered compared to the competition and all u can do is NOS it at a couple of places of the track=a Challenge!
👍 👍 👍 So Chill out! 👍 👍

 

[HKS_T51KAI]

From my point of view, seeming as i have been in a street modifed Skyline GTR, all NOS really does is boost your cars response in take off and allows your car to clock top speed. But in terms NOS is For weaklings, people you can't race or Drag. Its mor of a Handy Cap. If your more like me Say 'NO TO NITROUS, STICK TO RAW POWER'
There are plenty Street cars running a 10 sec 1/4mile and using no NOS. Theres a bloke in Aus whole ran a 9.3sec in 1/4 in a R32 GTR. NOS just ruins the fun of testing your cars potenial.