So I can drive race car now ? ( in real life )

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There is a little amount of sarcasm in the topic title.

But, anyway... I was wondering can GT5 learn you at least something ?

I am driving using official wheel Logitech GT, all assists OFF .
As for game progress, I am currently level 23, finished all license tests, most of the special events ( all except rally and ones that are not yet unlocked ), golded all A-Spec events except Extreme ones ( can't be bothered with grinding right now )...

Now if I would drive a car in real life, would I be able to drive it fast through the corners similar like in the game. Would same techniques work ?
Race track should be in perfect condition with no rain / snow etc. I don't have much experience with those...
Be free to choose whatever car you want, since I guess not everything is perfectly simulated.

Oh, and in real life I don't even own a car, neither I have a driving license.
I don't plan to start racing on streets and risk other people lives so don't worry.
I am just curious.:)
 
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No enough money yet. But I will not able to buy fast car anyway, but regular normal city car... And if I am not wrong steering is a lot different with those cars ( you need to rotate wheel a lot ) ..
 
To a degree, yes. Simulation can be used as a training aid if treated like one, and GT5 is close enough to simulate real world driving to give you some benefit.

You will learn things like how to race in a pack (If you are in some good online races), proper lines, braking, throttle modulation, managing oversteer/understeer, etc.

the problem is when people treat simulators like "games." Yes, it's a game in the sense that there is a goal and points and rewards and such. But, if you decide that to learn a course you'll just drive 120% and hit every wall on the first lap around, you'd be dead in real life ... or at least several thousand dollars in the hole.

What you want to do is treat the simulation like it is real life. When you learn a track/car, you start slow and work your way up ... not the reverse. you brake early, go easy through corners and pick up pace after several laps.

Do this and really pay attention to the way the car reacts to your inputs, you will learn some skills that will definitely transfer to real life.
 
I think GT5 has improved my driving skills, I honestly haven't driven a car at high speeds a lot. I'm not saying i'll be driving anything like the game in real life, but I've learnt to pick up my lines better and other stuff. So I think I'm a bit better prepared than before it.
 
What GT and other such games really does best is teaches you the theory of racing, how to find a good line on a track etc.

I think a major thing it can help with though is hand eye foot co-ordination, it's something people don't think about too much but it is quite important for any kind of driving, race car or not.

In the 8th grade I was an unco-ordinated mess, I couldn't get more than 2 kicks on a hacky sack. I've played sims with a wheel since like 10th grade (so 6ish years ago) and driven standard since I've been able to drive and I can kick sacks all day now. True story.
 
I played for about 6 hours last weekend, and then jumped in the car to go get some drinks at the store. On the way there, I damn near ran 3 stop lights. Turns out that my '95 Civic doesn't brake nearly as well as the Ferrari I was driving all morning in GT5. :)

And apparently, my brain now needs some time between the game and real driving in order to return to 30 years worth of IRL driving experience. LOL
 
I remember a guy who crashed at the nordschleife (first ever real world lap for him) and told the marshals: "It had worked on GT"

What really helps is to learn a new track (NOT Braking points etc)
 
Add one element that playing a game/simulator cannot provide... fear. Do you have the nuts to go 100 mph into a corner, under a bridge, with a blind apex and exit, believing that the car can do it if only you do all of the correct inputs at the exact propper times? Miss the apex by 3 feet and you've overstepped physics to make the exit.

Add fear of injury and fear of empty wallet to build yourself a new car.
 
Eh my car irl is on good behavior due to speeding tickets...GT5 just lets me act a fool without the consequences.
 
It will help you pick the best racing line.. you will be a bit more brave cause of the practice from GT5.

In real life from personal experience, I actually drove my car more cautiously cause I was afraid it was going to slide out on the corners xD
 
I did a pretty epic accident avoidance on the highway the other night going about 80 MPH...I attribute my smoothness through the entire situation to my endless hours of GT5. I was awarded with applause from my passengers.
 
My girl always drives crazy after she plays GT5. Don't think it is helping her driving skills.

Though, maybe it is because I only let her race "Like the Wind" at over 200mph...

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I would say GT does a good job of teaching you where a cars limits are, braking point and entry speed of a courses corners and what it takes to manage them but that the muscle memory and subtle feel needed to control them isn't quite the same and would need re-learning in real life.

I remember the first time I did karting a couple of years back. My first few laps were painfully slow as I wasn't confident enough to just jump in a car and drive as I would in a game.

After a few laps as I started to feel where the karts limits were and as I started getting that intuitive feel for grip like you have in the game and things I've learned from GT like race lines, not letting the car scrub speed turning too hard and fast and feeding the power in out of corners definitely helped.
 
Learning the layout of a real life track that you may race on yes.
Learning the feel of a car, when the back is just, and I mean just about to go and you bring it back or the slight feel of understeer due to slightly too much power or the feel of a car when you get the weight transferring to the front when braking, then no.
 
TG Mag did put the worlds best iRacer in a car he was familiar simming with. I think he did fairly well, but needed the physical fitness to perform well.
 
I liked that Top Gear episode.

My best friend is equally fast on the game and faster by a stretch on some tracks than am I, and drives a much sportier car in real life than I.
In the real world (high speed running in the desert in my Jeep and closed road driving in my Mustang) he is in absolute awe and comments no way in heck he could ever master vehicle control like that. (I am not saying I'm the best driver on the planet, let alone even proffessional material)
There are too many things to deal with in an actual vehicle compared to the game to ever consider your game skills directly relating to the real world... and this is with street driven vehicles.
Now, make the step to a true race car...
There have been a tonne of hot shoe automotove journalist who have written about being given the oppertunity to drive a real race car, and they typically do miserably, often times not even being able to get the car off the starting line let alone being able to run fast enough to make the tires or brakes work correctly...

It is a game, it's a great game, but it is a game.
 
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The theory you learn is 100% applicable. Though not enough to be very competitive. Things like feathering the clutch an heel toe come with real world practice.

You can always bring your car to you local track day, costs a few bucks. Careful, real world racing is a lot less forgiving than GT5
 
Theory... sure... I can go buy a game for flying planes too, or read books on how to ice skate and play hockey... does not make me able to fly a real plane or actually skate/shoot/check.
Original poster does not drive, nor does he/she even have a license to do so.
 
The fact that OP activated his sarcasm meter when creating this thread, at least confirms semi-serious motives or it was a get out of jail free card when the flak starts.

The fact that some people believe playing this game will make them better at a real racing event, with real vehicles and real physics, with real life on the line is somewhat worrying.
 
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Theory... sure... I can go buy a game for flying planes too, or read books on how to ice skate and play hockey... does not make me able to fly a real plane or actually skate/shoot/check.
Original poster does not drive, nor does he/she even have a license to do so.
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Actually a lot of folks use flight sims prior to and while going through flight school.
 
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Now if I would drive a car in real life, would I be able to drive it fast through the corners similar like in the game. Would same techniques work ?
Race track should be in perfect condition with no rain / snow etc. I don't have much experience with those...
Be free to choose whatever car you want, since I guess not everything is perfectly simulated.

Oh, and in real life I don't even own a car, neither I have a driving license.
I don't plan to start racing on streets and risk other people lives so don't worry.
I am just curious.:)
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Your answer is right there, no.
In Bad Company 2, I can see a guy 1km away, lift my sniper rifle, and hit him in the head in 1.6 seconds flat. Could I do that in real life, though all I've shot is a BB gun?? No.
This is a game, that's it. It can teach you fundamentals, and the technical part of driving and racing, but you can never expect anything on the practical side. Experience is what will allow you to replicate it.
 
You can learn the lines and the track layout (as many F1 drivers do before they were introduced to a new track, e.g. Korean GP last year). But as for braking points and so, they still need practice sessions to get familiarize with the set up.

Correct me if I'm wrong, PD did not simulate brake wear into GT5, you will break early due to tire wear. But not a combination of tire and brake wear. Or in some cases, over heat (cooked) the brakes or too cold for the carbon ceramic brakes. Combined these two factors, race drivers will learn when to warm up the tires and brakes, keep them in optimum temperature and wear. As well as tire degradations and graining with various compounds.
 
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