So I used a G25... [on GT5]

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Energizerrr
Yup, a lot, lot more.

You can but no change is made so it doesn't work.
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Yes, it does work with FFB with G25 on GT5
since the beginning my FFB was set on 10, not until recently I changed to 5 for practice the drifting, it makes a lot of difference. By adjust down to 5, not only you don't have to fight the counter steering harder, and the bump to those corner are a bit softer rather then big impact that you have to hold the steering wheel as if you hold 10 million dollars on your hand.
 
Simple answer to any of these problems. Mod it. Theres a **** tonne of mods out there. The small wheel issue (It is true, but its comparable to F1 size) can be fixed up getting an adapter and mounting a full size aftermarket wheel, I did on mine, best thing I've ever done to it becuase it gives you more mechanical advantage against the FFB motor. The pedals can be moved closer, and further apart by undoing the allen screws on the face and there's 3 holes drilled in the assembly to change their position, I moved my brake and gas closer, and the clutch furthest for better heel-toe. Plus you can mount them without the plastic housing they come in normally, or inverted. And lastly springs can be changed to have stiffer/progressive feel, or replaced with a load cell. I just went down to the hardware store ordered a spring similar diameter, with thicker, tighter coils, and cut it to size, cost me $8 and 20 min of my day on the weekend.

In total, I've spend maybe $70 upgrading my G27, and honestly, short of buying a T500, theres nothing that can beat it for realism, looks, and cost.

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Energizerrr
- Again, shows nothing. GT5 has horrible FFB
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Every time somebody makes a claim that GT5 has horrible force feedback, I like to refer to a quote by Stefano Casillo who is the guy responsible for netKar Pro (the physics engine running Ferrari Virtual Academy) who according to many is one sim that rivals iRacing when it comes to physics and FF(B), In an interview he did for Radicals Online (a site gears towards sim racing), when he was asked about feeling connected to a car in a sim, he was quoted as saying:

"I think there is a fundamental difference in how FF is calculated in the group netKar PRO, iRacing, Live For Speed, VirtualGP3, even Gran Turismo Academy felt "netKar-ish" to me."

(the rest of the interview is here: http://tiny.cc/tz50a)

While the 370Z in GT Academy is hardly a representation of GT5 as a whole, it does provide what is fundamentally the force feedback in the game.
 
Spend the extra cash and get a Fanatec. Much more adjustibility with the wheel and the clubsport pedals are second to none, their like a piece of art.

I have a gt3-rs and i absolutely love it.

Tho i do agree with other people on the fact that GT5's force feedback isn't that great. Hopefully that gets some attention with the big new update.
 
That thread gave a good laugh. Thanks for showing respect to the G25 drivers, but making a thread about how a wheel thats been used "hardcore" in a mall was not what you expected is just a troll thread in my opinion. I've driven with it since the days of GT5p and I am quite satisfied with it. It's a great wheel and has been used and is still used by alot of people today so that has to say something about the wheel. I also have a Fantec GT2.👍 I'll just leave this here.


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I just wanted to share my experience with GTPlanet. 👍
Yes I am dissapointed because it's nowhere near real life but again, I may have expected too much from a G25.

Rdp616
Spend the extra cash and get a Fanatec. Much more adjustibility with the wheel and the clubsport pedals are second to none, their like a piece of art.

I have a gt3-rs and i absolutely love it.

Tho i do agree with other people on the fact that GT5's force feedback isn't that great. Hopefully that gets some attention with the big new update.
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Please, read my post(s) again.
I said I used the G25 at a rig in a mall and that my GT3 RS with ClubSport pedals is comming today.
 
Energizerrr
I just wanted to share my experience with GTPlanet. 👍
Yes I am dissapointed because it's nowhere near real life but again, I may have expected too much from a G25.



Please, read my post(s) again.
I said I used the G25 at a rig in a mall and that my GT3 RS with ClubSport pedals is comming today.
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Oooopps. Well there you go, you'll definitely be satisfied.
 
1) I agree: any wheel on a simulation is a disappointment to me, it is not that close to a real car.

2) I disagree: G25 is sure better then a DFGT and even that I find pretty good for simulation. It takes time to get used to it, but they do sufficiently for what they are made for.
 
As you used a very tired, public use G25, the only point you made of any relevence is the distance between the pedals. I'm sure the pedals are in the same state of misuse that the wheel has experienced. Probably more as they'll have been stamped on by shoes. All your other issues are only present with that particular G25.
 
daan
As you used a very tired, public use G25, the only point you made of any relevence is the distance between the pedals. I'm sure the pedals are in the same state of misuse that the wheel has experienced. Probably more as they'll have been stamped on by shoes. All your other issues are only present with that particular G25.
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Exactly. The pedals.
Got my GT3 with clubsports today, even the CSP don't feel hard enough. Thank god they're adjustable. Spacing between the pedals is great!
 
Might have been pointed out already, but one thing that I really like about my G27 is that the pedal spacing is adjustable. That was one of the first things I did when I got the wheel, create more space between the brake and accelerator.
 
Energizerrr
Exactly. The pedals.
Got my GT3 with clubsports today, even the CSP don't feel hard enough. Thank god they're adjustable. Spacing between the pedals is great!
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Dude you are judging a wheel that was used and abused to high hell, and you just got a brand new wheel delivered, I wonder which one you will give the good kudos to? Why did you even make this thread? Biased much?
 
daan
As you used a very tired, public use G25, the only point you made of any relevence is the distance between the pedals. I'm sure the pedals are in the same state of misuse that the wheel has experienced. Probably more as they'll have been stamped on by shoes. All your other issues are only present with that particular G25.
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I believe they're all spaced to close together.
Energizerrr
Exactly. The pedals.
Got my GT3 with clubsports today, even the CSP don't feel hard enough. Thank god they're adjustable. Spacing between the pedals is great!
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Except the Fanatec's, which I believe have more space between them.

But having a DFGT, and hearing from enough skilled drivers about G25/27 improvements, I know without using one they're not "bad" in any way.
It is a shame Logitech wouldn't comply with PD's programming standards, but the G27(or 25) remains a solid wheel for any experienced driver.

This and pretty much what SavageEvil said, why would you even consider a display wheel and mark judgement on it?
 
I have been using the g27 for a year now with no problems at all. (knock on wood) I took the pedals apart and hung them upside down and with better spacing on my driving rig and its totally awesome. FFB on 5.
 
G25 is a good wheel but not the best any more. GT5 also has the best physics in console racer and FFB works fairly well. So it is you, not the game or equipment.
 
I am 2 gold medals away from Vettel from Platinuming GT5,

all on the G25.

If I spend time on it, I will get it, but my time is used up on just having fun with smaller pp at this point in time, and highly anticipating SPEC 2.0, I am very happy for that "unofficial" but trusting annoucement.

The FFB and short brake pedal travel and other woes, is cleary from lack of support for the G25/27 / PS3 , for when I plug this into the PC, on Dirt 2, the wheel comes to life unlike in GT5.

I considered splurging $600 on the T500RS, but I halted at finding out that it might not work for Any game outside of GT5, then again, who cares about other games than GT5.

oh, and my wheel is clamped on a long bookshelf that isn't "fully" clamped down, it just sits on a piano bench.

Paddle shifting , all aids off, sometimes ABS @0 , (ABS @1 sucks btw, ABS @2 or 3 is better)

Can lap the Nordschleife very competitively online, if I don't crash (into the guy in front of me) :)

The only drawback, and I feel it in my gut , is that other wheel users score better "precise" times when driving certain time trials or seasonals, becuase their "supported" wheels might register a tad better with the PS3, than that of the aging G25 / G27, it's just a hunch I have, but it's probably also me :)

PD, please have Logitech and Sony kiss and make up
 
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Many of the fastest drivers on gtplanet use a G25 or G27. I guess no one has told them that their pedals are "useless", so they continuing to drive masterfully with them, blissfully unaware of how ****** they are.

:lol:

By the way, I tried a T500RS wheel at a kiosk in Tokyo and thought the pedals were terrible. Does this mean I think the pedals on the T500RS are not good? No, because you can't fairly judge the worth of pedals from using them for a few minutes while standing up at a mall kiosk where they are obviously abused.
 
daymobrown
You need to calibrate your peddles. Before you race, fully press and release each peddle, this will give you use of the full travel.
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I know this and I did it.
The problems are:
- pedals are too close together
- not enough resistance
- small travel distance

By sensitivity I meant the resistance.
 
Energizerrr
I know this and I did it.
The problems are:
- pedals are too close together
- not enough resistance
- small travel distance

By sensitivity I meant the resistance.
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Look, you can blame the wheel all day long, but I qualified D1 Silver with an unmodified DFGT, which is known for having much worse pedals then the G series.

Is it perfect? No. And I've now added bungee cords to have resistance on both pedals, but you can go perfectly fast without it. ;)

If you dislike it that's up to you, but an expensive pedal system isn't really going to help your lap times, the practice you put in will.

Whistle Snap
FFB changes won't take effect when you use; F2007, F10, X1, Dirt and Snow tracks, everything else is effected in the 1-10 range.

This is down to Polyphony.
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According to PD, it was Logitech, I haven't heard anything official from Logitech on it, so I have to assume it's because PD told the truth.
There is full support for the Logitech wheel PD worked with Logitech (notice the order?) to create.
 
CSLACR
Look, you can blame the wheel all day long, but I qualified D1 Silver with an unmodified DFGT, which is known for having much worse pedals then the G series.

Is it perfect? No. And I've now added bungee cords to have resistance on both pedals, but you can go perfectly fast without it. ;)

If you dislike it that's up to you, but an expensive pedal system isn't really going to help your lap times, the practice you put in will.

According to PD, it was Logitech, I haven't heard anything official from Logitech on it, so I have to assume it's because PD told the truth.
There is full support for the Logitech wheel PD worked with Logitech (notice the order?) to create.
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Keywords.
There is a saying along the lines "play with the cards you're given" and in this context it makes a point.
I have no experience with sim wheels at all (less than 2h in my whole life and 1h on GT5) but I do with real life cars [driving since I was 14(AUP breach)] and what I posted in this thread are my first impressions. If that was my wheel I would have gotten used to it over time.
 
Energizerrr
Majority of very fast people who use G25/G27 have modded pedals.
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Is that so? Has there been a poll to show this or have you been hanging around these forums for such a long time that you have observed a large number of discussions regarding pedal mods that very fast people participated in and confirmed that they have modded pedals? Not trying to be a jerk about this, but it seems like you're pulling that statement out of thin air without anything to back it up, in which case it is as likely to be untrue as it is likely to be true.

Second, the only significant pedal modification that I know of is for the break pedal.
 

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