So we're clear..

[Bobby-Vegas]

If it's not regulated then it means retuning for the legit guys and no work for the cheaters. I don't have many cars tuned, but I felt bad enough when the patch meant I had to retune a handful of cars... I can't imagine how I would feel having to create a new SRF on tune for a whole garage.

I like the video or srf on/off images idea... the least amount of work for the legit guys 👍

I stopped tuning at route X when that happened... I'm done dragging/tuning for the most part anyway.

 

[kttheman001]

then some people need to get lives sorry kt but i think that stuff is rediculous

Well its not that they dony have lives but many times its to get away from reality, to escape from that idiot at work or not think about what just happend in school, ect.

 

[Swara]

Well its not that they dony have lives but many times its to get away from reality, to escape from that idiot at work or not think about what just happend in school, ect.

That's why I tune...to take off the 🤬 happening in my grade, particularly 2 people that piss me off. Sometimes, I feel like I want to beat the living 🤬 out of them...

 

[kttheman001]

That's why I tune...to take off the 🤬 happening in my grade, particularly 2 people that piss me off. Sometimes, I feel like I want to beat the living 🤬 out of them...

Oh yea i know it bro.

 

[MadMax]

Why don't you guys just say "anything goes"? Allow SRF, wings, that launch glitch thing, and everything you guys currently call "cheating." Then all times can be trusted. Therefore, no more arguing! It may seem like a radical idea, but I guarantee you'll all be much better off. After all, it is just a game.

Couldn't have said it better myself. 👍 👍

A true level playing field would be to allow all driving aids and launching tricks ect.


The leaderboards are (and have allways been) based on mainstream demand.

In my opinion , to begin with it was "elitist" , when SRF was not allowed.. (because it's not used online)

These Route X times are offline and are hardly compareable to online tuning & online drag racing.

If people are now in the favour of allowing SRF for offline timed runs , it will be the new standard for offline drag racing.

Nothing will change much , it will still be about tuning and competing for the bragging rights.

One more thing I thought of being slightly elitist was that times had to be timed at 1/4 mile.

I've now grown to like racing the 1/4 mile (offline) , but I still race on track and online in km/h.
I also do my max speed runs in km/h just because it is more accurate (in GT5).



MadMax

 

[kttheman001]

Couldn't have said it better myself. 👍 👍

A true level playing field would be to allow all driving aids and launching tricks ect.

The leaderboards are (and have allways been) based on mainstream demand.

In my opinion , to begin with it was "elitist" , when SRF was not allowed.. (because it's not used online)

These Route X times are offline and are hardly compareable to online tuning & online drag racing.

If people are now in the favour of allowing SRF for offline timed runs , it will be the new standard for offline drag racing.

Nothing will change much , it will still be about tuning and competing for the bragging rights.

One more thing I thought of being slightly elitist was that times had to be timed at 1/4 mile.

I've now grown to like racing the 1/4 mile (offline) , but I still race on track and online in km/h.
I also do my max speed runs in km/h just because it is more accurate (in GT5).

MadMax

How about we do the srf and non srf, i feel the idea could work. And also the 400 meter is closer to indy too, so maybe run that insted, just my personal opinion.

 

[fest0r]

I don't see it as elitist... it's so people don't have to have multiple tunes. What was the norm online was carried over to Route X. Legit guys will be forced to retune their cars to compete now

...and the problem with srf/non srf is we now can't tell if it's being used.

 

[kttheman001]

I don't see it as elitist... it's so people don't have to have multiple tunes. What was the norm online was carried over to Route X. Legit guys will be forced to retune their cars to compete now

...and the problem with srf/non srf is we now can't tell if it's being used.

But postin both srf and non srf time there would be no lying if their both posted.

 

[KaroSVTR]

But postin both srf and non srf time there would be no lying if their both posted.

You can still go around it. It's all in the suspension.

 

[fest0r]

But postin both srf and non srf time there would be no lying if their both posted.

Sorry, I misunderstood... you mean as a method of proof and not as a two tier system?

 

[DavidtheGT20]

That's why I tune...to take off the 🤬 happening in my grade, particularly 2 people that piss me off. Sometimes, I feel like I want to beat the living 🤬 out of them...

Same here...

 

[Swara]

You can still go around it. It's all in the suspension.

They should be suspended for their suspension (with SRF)

See what I did there?

(Ends bad puns)

 

[kennyblanco]

Video would be the only foolproof method of proving whether or not your run is legit besides posting your tune (which would defeat the purpose of tuning in the first place ). It's really sad that people have the need to be validated by others to the extent of cheating. They're really only lying to themselves. 👎

 

[fest0r]

Agreed, it's just a shame as it will exclude a lot of legitimate guys that don't have the option

 

[kttheman001]

Sorry, I misunderstood... you mean as a method of proof and not as a two tier system?

Well my thought is making them post both srf and non srf times then we would know what their srf runs are reguardless because they have to post both and it would be clear which ones which reguardless of their g's

 

[fest0r]

Well my thought is making them post both srf and non srf times then we would know what their srf runs are reguardless because they have to post both and it would be clear which ones which reguardless of their g's

I suppose so, but if these morons go to the trouble of tuning the g's out of the car with srf on couldn't they create a full g srf tune which would be faster... am I missing something?

 

[kttheman001]

I suppose so, but if these morons go to the trouble of tuning the g's out of the car with srf on couldn't they create a full g srf tune which would be faster... am I missing something?

Well i was thinking with this method their bs srf time and normal srf times will be much too close so then we could easily weed them out just by seeing how close their times are to the srf time.

 

[kennyblanco]

Well my thought is making them post both srf and non srf times then we would know what their srf runs are reguardless because they have to post both and it would be clear which ones which reguardless of their g's

But they could just run 2 different tunes to achieve their desired results. They're already cheating.

 

[fest0r]

Well i was thinking with this method their bs srf time and normal srf times will be much too close so then we could easily weed them out just by seeing how close their times are to the srf time.

I don't know... might work, but it means coming up with new acceptable differences etc. A lot of work and something else to be disputed.

lol Kenny

 

[kttheman001]

I don't know... might work, but it means coming up with new acceptable differences etc. A lot of work and something else to be disputed.

Very true, just my thoughts, because i dont want the leaderboards having tuned being optimised for srf, if that happins then i have no clue if im actully fast or not.

 

[kennyblanco]

 

[fest0r]

 

[Simple Matt]

Who gave Kenny the link to meme generator... C'mon guys..

 

[kttheman001]

Who gave Kenny the link to meme generator... C'mon guys..

Lol

 

[RLD]

I stopped tuning at route X when that happened... I'm done dragging/tuning for the most part anyway.

Yup. At first PD completely ignored drag racing, even though well more than half the lobbies online WERE drag rooms. They then hastily put together a "Speed Pack" for 5 bucks that doesn't even let us race online. I mean I'm not even that good of a programmer but give me the source code for GT5 and I could probably put a working "tree" in the game, its not that hard. Don't tell me they could render the Nurburgring accurately and not be able to make two cars go in a straight line for 400 meters... With all this drama and such a hard way to compare ourselves to each other, drag racing is becoming pointless. Here are the problems to all the solutions proposed:

1) Pic submissions - Photoshop is not needed to make a legit fake time, as I saw many times.

2) SRF - We could drop the regulations altogether, but now allowing SRF make a huge physics change and is completely unrealistic.

3) Video submissions - Way to much work; recording, uploading; then you have the complaints when a video is too blurry... etc


Honestly I basically quit dragging until PD officially supports drag racing, none of our stupid ghost tree on some random nascar track...

 

[KaroSVTR]

Yup. At first PD completely ignored drag racing, even though well more than half the lobbies online WERE drag rooms. They then hastily put together a "Speed Pack" for 5 bucks that doesn't even let us race online. I mean I'm not even that good of a programmer but give me the source code for GT5 and I could probably put a working "tree" in the game, its not that hard. Don't tell me they could render the Nurburgring accurately and not be able to make two cars go in a straight line for 400 meters... With all this drama and such a hard way to compare ourselves to each other, drag racing is becoming pointless. Here are the problems to all the solutions proposed:

1) Pic submissions - Photoshop is not needed to make a legit fake time, as I saw many times.

2) SRF - We could drop the regulations altogether, but now allowing SRF make a huge physics change and is completely unrealistic.

3) Video submissions - Way to much work; recording, uploading; then you have the complaints when a video is too blurry... etc

Honestly I basically quit dragging until PD officially supports drag racing, none of our stupid ghost tree on some random nascar track...

Word

 

[r4a2g0]

Yup. At first PD completely ignored drag racing, even though well more than half the lobbies online WERE drag rooms. They then hastily put together a "Speed Pack" for 5 bucks that doesn't even let us race online. I mean I'm not even that good of a programmer but give me the source code for GT5 and I could probably put a working "tree" in the game, its not that hard. Don't tell me they could render the Nurburgring accurately and not be able to make two cars go in a straight line for 400 meters... With all this drama and such a hard way to compare ourselves to each other, drag racing is becoming pointless. Here are the problems to all the solutions proposed:

1) Pic submissions - Photoshop is not needed to make a legit fake time, as I saw many times.

2) SRF - We could drop the regulations altogether, but now allowing SRF make a huge physics change and is completely unrealistic.

3) Video submissions - Way to much work; recording, uploading; then you have the complaints when a video is too blurry... etc


Honestly I basically quit dragging until PD officially supports drag racing, none of our stupid ghost tree on some random nascar track...

I cant belive it. A first post by someone actually turned out to be a gem.
Well said RLD. 👍

 

[Simple Matt]

Hahahahahahaahahahahhahahahahahahaha....

 

[kennyblanco]

I cant belive it. A first post by someone actually turned out to be a gem.
Well said RLD. 👍

Agreed. 👍

 

[fest0r]

All I read was "can i have a gtr t00n plz" 👍