some pro tips(not a tune) on GTR Black edition suspension

[thrasher0422]

i can run a 8.956 but i know i can do better on the suspension part but i am stuck...little help would be appreciated


P.S. this is for indy.....go figure

 

[seanneedscar]

Suspension:
-20 / +40
20.0 / 17.0
10 / 1
1 / 10
6 / 6

0.0 / 0.0
0.00 / 0.00

running 8.910's

let me know how you do

 

[ceelo]

Suspension:
-20 / +40
20.0 / 17.0
10 / 1
1 / 10
6 / 6

0.0 / 0.0
0.00 / 0.00

running 8.910's

let me know how you do

im sorry but this tune is horrible

 

[thrasher0422]

Suspension:
-20 / +40
20.0 / 17.0
10 / 1
1 / 10
6 / 6

0.0 / 0.0
0.00 / 0.00

running 8.910's

let me know how you do

yeah, u are using srf and that suspension sucks, lol I'm not a noob at tuning in just a little stuck, that's all

 

[Swara]

Suspension:
-20 / +40
20.0 / 17.0
10 / 1
1 / 10
6 / 6

0.0 / 0.0
0.00 / 0.00

running 8.910's

let me know how you do

No offense, but if not for the Spring Rates, that is an excellent FF tune.

I think you made a fatal mistake here.

 

[seanneedscar]

im sorry but this tune is horrible

yeah, u are using srf and that suspension sucks, lol I'm not a noob at tuning in just a little stuck, that's all

No offense, but if not for the Spring Rates, that is an excellent FF tune.

I think you made a fatal mistake here.

Are you guys smoking CRACK?

I believe my black edition beats ALL of yours, apparently with FF suspension..

this is the last time I give out free help, damn noobs. Good luck with your Slow Edition '12, OP.

 

[Swara]

Are you guys smoking CRACK?

I believe my black edition beats ALL of yours, apparently with FF suspension..

this is the last time I give out free help, damn noobs. Good luck with your Slow '12, OP.

Hmm, that's a new thing I haven't heard of. Oh well, what do ya gotta do

Time to break in my GTR BE, but I hate GTR's

 

[seanneedscar]

Hmm, that's a new thing I haven't heard of. Oh well, what do ya gotta do

Time to break in my GTR BE, but I hate GTR's

I dont know what on earth is 'new' about min/max and max/max on a 4WD. but whatever..

 

[Swara]

I dont know what on earth is 'new' about min/max and max/max on a 4WD. but whatever..

It makes an extremely small difference 👍

Especially if you set them up right. But remember dampers can be affected by spring rate, but meh most 4WD's have all stiff spring rates. I guess it doesn't really matter.

I'm done here.

 

[thrasher0422]

I don't need a tune.....I just want some advice on the spring rates and toe

 

[seanneedscar]

I don't need a tune.....I just want some advice on the spring rates and toe

You want some advice...

When you come on here, and someone much faster than you gives you great tips, actually listen to them. Don't call them slow or accuse them of cheating, because they will own you 👍 in knowledge and in skill.

Why? because when you go get your spring rates and toe 'figured out', your GTR will still be running 8.95's. So you'll come crawling back here, asking for more free pro help because your GTR is still getting beat by a whole car length at Indy.

And it will be ME that helps you with your transmission, despite having to deal with your **** attitude in the first place 👍

 

[Swara]

You want some advice...

When you come on here, and someone much faster than you gives you great tips, actually listen to them. Don't call them slow or accuse them of cheating, because they will own you 👍 in knowledge and in skill.

Why? because when you go get your spring rates and toe 'figured out', your GTR will still be running 8.95's. So you'll come crawling back here, asking for more free pro help because your GTR is still getting beat by a whole car length at Indy.

And it will be ME that helps you with your transmission, despite having to deal with your **** attitude in the first place 👍

Well an 8.956 isn't bad for an Indy tune...

Spring rates are always stiff for a 4WD, OP.

No toe or no camber. Not on 4WDs.

I'd be more than happy to help you if need be, Thrasher. I won't whine about who's faster and I won't boast about myself or my tuning knowledge 👍

 

[seanneedscar]

I won't whine about who's faster and I won't boast about myself or my tuning knowledge 👍

Criticizing the tune of someone who is faster than you is worse than both of those 👍 just sayin..

 

[thrasher0422]

this escalated quickly....

 

[thrasher0422]

thanks swara

 

[thrasher0422]

You want some advice...

When you come on here, and someone much faster than you gives you great tips, actually listen to them. Don't call them slow or accuse them of cheating, because they will own you 👍 in knowledge and in skill.

Why? because when you go get your spring rates and toe 'figured out', your GTR will still be running 8.95's. So you'll come crawling back here, asking for more free pro help because your GTR is still getting beat by a whole car length at Indy.

And it will be ME that helps you with your transmission, despite having to deal with your **** attitude in the first place 👍

I really don't like your attitude think that everyone that isn't karosvtr or better is a noob asking for uber fast tunes...

 

[seanneedscar]

I really don't like your attitude think that everyone that isn't karosvtr or better is a noob asking for uber fast tunes...

I never said that about anyone. You asked for help, I gave you great help, and you criticized me and my tune, despite it being, basically as fast as an Indy tune can go. That is quite unacceptable around here.

I'm just giving you a head's up, there are quite a few hotheads around these parts, and I can assure you I'm the only person who will actually give you the settings I personally use. Everyone else will point you towards the 'Free tunes' thread (which are abhorrent tunes) or the drag tuning bible, which you already seem to know since you're running a decent time.

 

[Swara]

I never said that about anyone. You asked for help, I gave you great help, and you criticized me and my tune, despite it being, basically as fast as an Indy tune can go. That is quite unacceptable around here.

I'm just giving you a head's up, there are quite a few hotheads around these parts, and I can assure you I'm the only person who will actually give you the settings I personally use. Everyone else will point you towards the 'Free tunes' thread (which are abhorrent tunes) or the drag tuning bible, which you already seem to know since you're running a decent time.

"Give a man a fish, you're fed him for a day. Teach a man how to fish, you've fed him for his life."

👍

 

[seanneedscar]

"Give a man a fish, you're fed him for a day. Teach a man how to fish, you've fed him for his life."

👍

When a man already knows how to fish, but cannot catch the biggest fish himself, sometimes you just have to put the bait on his hook for him.

 

[SpeedTestJimmy]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with that suspension tune. If you believe that the springs or ride height 'sucks' then your going to have to tell that to, umm, the top 20 guys 👍 what Sean put up is a top suspension that I, as well as EVERY OTHER PRO uses on majority of the AWD's.

 

[Swara]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with that suspension tune. If you believe that the springs or ride height 'sucks' then your going to have to tell that to, umm, the top 20 guys 👍 what Sean put up is a top suspension that I, as well as EVERY OTHER PRO uses on majority of the AWD's.

It sort of looked like an FF tune with the spring rate flipped...which is why I said that haha.

I've never personally tuned a GTR BE, nor do I plan on tuning one, as they're 900% overused.

 

[SpeedTestJimmy]

It sort of looked like an FF tune with the spring rate flipped...which is why I said that haha.

I've never personally tuned a GTR BE, nor do I plan on tuning one, as they're 900% overused.

But you've never tuned an AWD? That suspension works best for ANY AWD..

 

[Swara]

But you've never tuned an AWD? That suspension works best for ANY AWD..

I use this

1/10
6/7
1/1

Never fails. But I guess it doesn't matter.

 

[seanneedscar]

I use this

1/10
6/7
1/1

Never fails. But I guess it doesn't matter.

Me and Jimmy were talking about the ride height and the spring rate

the dampers and anti roll bars (LOL...) dont do anything for the '12 come on.. nor 90% of cars for that matter..

I cannot believe all this BS has been about freakin dampers, from people who dont even know how to tune AWD?? lol. Classic 👍

 

[Swara]

Me and Jimmy were talking about the ride height and the spring rate

the dampers and anti roll bars (LOL...) dont do anything for the '12 come on.. nor 90% of cars for that matter..

I cannot believe all this BS has been about freakin dampers, from people who dont even know how to tune AWD?? lol. Classic 👍

I never said I didn't know how to tune 4WD.

But as for your height and spring rate, yes you are correct.

That's why I said the dampers don't made a difference. I misunderstood what you said.

Miscommunication 👍

 

[thrasher0422]

idk how to post a picture.....have to paste a url...........anyway....my speed test time is 1/4 8.940......(it got better).....0-60 1.796.....0-100 3.747.......max g-force 1.82......does this mean my trans is not as good as i thought




my trans is...1st. 4.550 2nd..3.659 3rd...2.896 4th....2.386 5th....1.980
6th 1.680
final 2.525
top124

top speed 164.....

 

[Swara]

idk how to post a picture.....have to paste a url...........anyway....my speed test time is 1/4 8.940......(it got better).....0-60 1.796.....0-100 3.747.......max g-force 1.82......does this mean my trans is not as good as i thought

my trans is...1st. 4.550 2nd..3.659 3rd...2.896 4th....2.386 5th....1.980
6th 1.680
final 2.525
top124

top speed 164.....

Hint: a final with 2.000 is always faster. 👍

 

[d24689]

Hmm 1/4 guys arguing again lol theres nothing hard about tuning 4WD for 1/4 lol

 

[thrasher0422]

2.500 is lowest

lol

 

[Swara]

2.500 is lowest

lol

Oh okay, then having a final of 2.500 is faster, but you have to adjust your transmission accordingly.

See, I've never tuned the Black Edition, it's a DLC car