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@Famine: Let's see if you can answer a couple simple questions then. Assuming that this "prolonged period" thing you 've been yapping about is defined by the SAE. 1)How long is it? And 2)Why is it that long?

@McLaren: No, you 're playing dirty here. The "not on paper" statement refers to completely autonomous vehicles, whereas the supposedly "contradictory" statement refers to what is indeed mandatory (with that special and practically meaningless exception already mentioned). If you lot aren't trying to cover up some sort of corruption scandal, you 're doing nothing.

@eran0004: Try scrutinising the other side the same way. Till then I 'll be ignoring you.
 
FaithJonesFEM
you've been yapping about
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Try again, but this time without the petulance.

Even so, thus far you have acknowledged absolutely nothing, you dodge everything, and you are absolutely unwilling to learn. I give you information and evidence, and you insist you're still right because of an anecdote, or a personal redefinition, or just hand-waving it away as it's inconvenient. The rest of your paragraph is yet another attempt at that, and is pure bad faith (appositely).

It's well past the time you show that you merit any further conversation, and nobody owes you a thing until (at least) then.

Edit: No, that doesn't mean make more bad-faith posts.
 
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EngieDiesel
"The shareholders will grumble if we keep putting money into this instead of in their pockets, and we can't risk upsetting them!"
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I suppose, but they also have to account for how much other EV brands are able to establish themselves due to lack of competition. I could be that by the time Honda et al re-enters the US EV market both Rivian and Lucid have three cars on offer, one of each with a more affordable offering. Hyundai and GM could absolutely dominate in multiple segments.

I think this could be a sign that Honda is in dire times brand-wise. They offer nothing but commuter cars which are exactly the type most likely to become electrified. We know that EV trucks, EV sports cars, EV off-roaders, and compact EVs don't sell worth a damn in the US but that's fine because they weren't working on any of those.
 
As of 2026, Acura doesn't offer a single car with an electric powerplant (EV or hybrid).

You would think shoving the hybrid drivetrain from the Civic hybrid into the Integra or ADX would be a no-brainer, so there's probably some executive somewhere intentionally trying to steer the company into complete irrelevancy like Infiniti :lol:
 
Gerarghini
As of 2026, Acura doesn't offer a single car with an electric powerplant (EV or hybrid).

You would think shoving the hybrid drivetrain from the Civic hybrid into the Integra or ADX would be a no-brainer, so there's probably some executive somewhere intentionally trying to steer the company into complete irrelevancy like Infiniti :lol:
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I think Acura's use of hybrid depends on the success of the Prelude philosophy. The base level of quality for all cars has gone up so high that all brands like Acura in that middle range are struggling for identity.
 
Interesting how sales of the Super-One will fair here, in Australia. It'll be a low volume car and no doubt it's Kei car cuteness will help.
The ZERO SUV is supposedly next to arrive. Really hope Honda can make a comeback.
 
tankuroded
Cross-posting from the IMSA thread - looks like this failure may as well lead to the IMSA program being killed after this season.
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tankuroded
This is now official.
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I think this is also related to the long-questioned decision to enter Acura in IMSA, effectively preventing the car from competing at Le Mans. Obviously IMSA is much more cost-effective than WEC, but Honda is a global automaker and outside of Japan and the US has virtually zero automotive racing presence.

Acura as an IndyCar sponsor makes sense because it's a US domestic brand and a domestic series. The IMSA chassis is great but it needs to be rebranded as Honda so it can run in both IMSA and WEC and get the motorsports presence that they deserve.

Honda is spending an incredible amount of money on F1 and having a time of it, but to see them backing down from the most cost-effective motorsports possible is kind of ridiculous. Hopefully they're using the opportunity to rearrange their series branding.
 
05XR8
Well then, make use of those Type R badge moulds and do an Accord Type R. 2L/360hp, Championship White, Championship White wheels, nice low-key body kit, drop a heap of weight to 1400kg.
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I feel you are hitting on something that should become the de facto norm going forward; for those who really aren't bothered, EVs make perfect sense (so long as you can home charge) so any remaining petrol cars absolutely should be special, because at this point, there's no real reason for middle of the road examples to exist.
 
The Accord is a surprise considering its sales have actually been rising. The possibility of the MDX being axed is an even worse sign considering that is Acura’s flagship and would leave a massive gap in its lineup should it go.
 
Abyss1
Seeing the EV shake up is weird…Lucid just opened across the street from my apartment and a lot people are buying them
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Completely different market. But Hyundai/Kia, Tesla, and GM offer products in a similar market and they're slowly getting more popular, especially the Hyundai products. I can only imagine that Honda took so long to develop their cars that they're simply not competitive anymore or something, idk.
05XR8
Well then, make use of those Type R badge moulds and do an Accord Type R. 2L/360hp, Championship White, Championship White wheels, nice low-key body kit, drop a heap of weight to 1400kg.
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VXR
I feel you are hitting on something that should become the de facto norm going forward; for those who really aren't bothered, EVs make perfect sense (so long as you can home charge) so any remaining petrol cars absolutely should be special, because at this point, there's no real reason for middle of the road examples to exist.
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Hell yes to both of these. Regardless, I guarantee an Accord Type R would sell like hotcakes in the US.
 
GranTurNismo
The possibility of the MDX being axed is an even worse sign considering that is Acura’s flagship and would leave a massive gap in its lineup should it go.
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Honda has absolutely no idea what they're doing with Acura.

They're already gonna take a gap year with the RDX (I believe for 27, new gen to launch in 28) which...

1. Makes no sense when the RDX has been available since 2019. They seriously couldn't develop a successor in that long timeframe?
2. There's no RDX Type-S. Everything else in their lineup had a Type-S variant.
3. Not a single hybrid in their lineup, and we all know the ZDX was a stop-gap that was all for nothing with the discontinuation of their EV program.

As an aside, let's be real, but no one would buy an Accord Type-R except for us :( partly because fast, "big" sedans like that don't sell for cheap (like coupes) and that dealerships would mark them up to kingdom come :lol:
 
Gerarghini
As an aside, let's be real, but no one would buy an Accord Type-R except for us :( partly because fast, "big" sedans like that don't sell for cheap (like coupes) and that dealerships would mark them up to kingdom come :lol:
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At least it could get Honda some buzz. BTCC, some of the USA racing series could do with an Accord race car again. Honda could do with some nostalgia to remind people they can still build high performance car across the board.

Something that boggles me is Honda really couldn’t still bring out the “0” saloon in hybrid form? The engineering didn’t allow for a Plan B petrol drivetrain? No one at Honda said if the EV doesn’t work we have this: rolls out the secret ICE version?
 

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