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Personally I think that the rally stages in GT4 are awful. I like the tarmac rallies and have completed those with no problem, but the dirt and snow events are dreadful. The penalty system makes it nearly impossible to pass unless you completely out power the other car, but even then I still can't get around much slower cars on the Ice Arena Hard races.

Maybe I just don't get it, or maybe I just haven't tried the right car.

My best try so far is a fully modded Evo MR, at least I can keep up with it, but until I find I car that levitate over the competition I guess I'm stuck.

So... In your opinion what is the best car to use for these events and how did you set it up?
 
yeah them rally races are hella hard. i could somewat keep up in the snow and dirt. i use a fully modded impreza rally car. even still the time penalty is awful. once the AI hit me and i got a time penalty. i'm still stuck on the normal area of rally.
 
There is nothing I hate more than when you're on the last corner, and the competitor comes up and slams into you, you get the penalty, and he crosses the finish line within your viewing distance... ****ers
 
Haha, yeah that happens to me all the time in those narrow road courses. I hate the rally tracks with a vengeance, though.
 
I couldn't agree more. that slow-little audi(?) turbo? oh god, why was it built? i think its an Audi. its red and its speed is that of a turtle. rallying around it is a pain, but with it...thats like volunteering for torture.
 
I love the special conditions races, especially those tight tracks like Citta 'd Aria and the other city track (forgot the name)

Citta 'd Aria is a blast when done with a 600+ hp Ruf CTR Yellow Bird
 
Good, I'm glad I'm not the only one having trouble. I've now done all the tarmacs in the rally section but only two dirt/snows higher than easy. I've never had a game make me want to throw the PS2 out the window so bad...

I spent 3,000,000 building various cars that SHOULD be ideal rally cars to try to beat the HARD Ice Arena race to win the Bluebird rally car. I finally did it with a fully tuned Lancer Evo MR after four tries for the first race and NINE tries on the second, not counting all the times I quit right after the start because the AI car swerved off the start line and hit me giving me a penalty.

AWD + AYC + Downforce + NAWSSS + Ice = two hard earned and expensive A-Spec Points, and pround I am of both of them...

I love the Tarmac rallies, I wish there were more, but PD can keep the dirt and snow next time...
 
I have just finished the Special Conditions Hall today. Here is my tips for the ice races, and some of the rally ones. Instead of staying to the inside of the corner and trying to navigate it, go to the opposite side and line up against the far wall/boundary. then just blast through using it to keep your car straight.
 
If you're going to be going for an EVO for the dirt stages (and snow for that matter...), an AYC an VCD upgrade will help a LOT.
 
I used the prototype Impreza rally car to do all the gravel/ice rallys :p ... but that was because it was the only rally car I had that I liked
 
am i the only one good at the rally races? lol..

Try using a 3rd generation toyota GT4, thats what i use and she works beautifully.

I hear their engines are awesome too... :)
 
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I couldn't agree more. that slow-little audi(?) turbo? oh god, why was it built? i think its an Audi. its red and its speed is that of a turtle. rallying around it is a pain, but with it...thats like volunteering for torture.
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The lil' read Turbo Audi you're talking about is a Renault car, and yes, it IS slow.

Now about the rallies, I find them pretty cool, I'm on the hard ones right now, but for the Tarmac Rallies I used the Toyota RSC Raid Car... worked fine, but wasn't very good w/ compatition, since I blew them all away. For the Dirt and Snow rallies, I used the Impreza Prototype. Who else out there hates the fact that, when winning a Rally car, you still have to buy Dirt/Snow tires for it? Shouldn't they come already on the car? Oh well, despite the flaws, I'm addicted.
 
I'm almost done with rally now (only Grand Canyon Hard left to beat)... I had been using the 206 Rally Car (excellent), then switched to the Evo VI Rally Car (slightly better than the 206), and now I'm driving the Evo VIII Super Rally Car (way faster than either of the others). The Evo VIII fully modded has a great power band, and handles pretty decently. I won Chamonix Hard by more than 26 seconds over an Evo IV Rally Car. The only track I really have problems with is Grand Canyon. It seems so long, it's like Nurburgring on dirt... :lol:

The key to the ice and snow tracks is to keep your drifts very shallow and use alot of partial throttle. Grand Canyon you can open it up a bit, the other dirt tracks it is almost totally full throttle or on the brakes for me...

As for passing, it is very difficult to do it cleanly, but not impossible. You can get away with touching the opponents car if you are not hitting with the front. I've successfully put my car to the inside and "leaned" on my opponent, shoving them outside, without getting a penalty. Ice Arena, Chamonix and Swiss Alps are wide so passing is easier there. Grand Canyon and Cathedral Rocks are very difficlut places to pass, but it can be done. Generally, though, I concentrate on getting a good jump off the start and get the lead right away. Start in 2nd if you have to, and try not to spin the wheels too much.

Don't get discouraged by your opponents, either. I know the first time I came up aganst the Delta S4 on Tahiti Maze, I though there was no way the 206 would be able to take it. Well, I was wrong, because with a little practice, the wider torque curves of the newer rally cars make corner exit speeds much higher than the old Group B cars. Plus it seems that the group B cars are almost too light for rally, and they have a harder time getting traction unless the road is smooth and straight. That's what makes the Evo VIII Super Rally car so great. It is a bit heavier than the Group B cars, has even more power when modded, and it has decent torque curve, even with the upgraded turbo. For Tahiti Maze, you need the torque to keep the wheels spinning in a higher gear to take those hairpins as fast as possible.
 
i used the Ford RS 200 to win some of the rally races (only beginner) and it was pretty good. 250 horses, 4WD, it performs well. not really a looker, though. i'd like to see how the rally RS performs, it's gotta be awesome.
 
I just tried using a Dodge Ram 1500 for the Rallys and I was able to beat the Peugeot on the Swiss Alps Hard and the Lancia on the Tahiti Hard.

OMG... Best rally car in GT4 IMO...

Drives just like the rally cars in GT3, a little less power, but much easier to control.

And the penalites, yeah it sucks when you tap the other car with your car and you get a 5 second penalty, but when you hit the other car with your 4200 pound truck and he does a 540 spin into the wall, even with the five penalty it's an instant 10 second lead for you.

No wall hugging required, just a little taste of their own medicine...
 
I need some help with the hard tusubaka wet track ( I think thats how you spell it) I want to know what car you used to beat it because all the cars that I've tried so far can't keep up with the 787b.
 
I have had the hardest time too with rally but I finally started having some success last night by buying the VCD controler thing and shifting the power ballance to 50/50. The stronger pull from the front tires makes the car not so likely to spin or just slide into the wall going around a corner. I think the other thing is just practicing to get used to the new physics. I still try to drive like it is gt3 sometimes and end up sliding into walls instead of powering through a corner.
 
I used the Ram until I won the Stormer and then I used that until I won the Infiniti FX45. They are all great to use and I don't have a problem at all. Whiped right through the Easy and Normal ones, and I'm just starting the Hard ones.
 
I liked it so much in GT3, that i went and spent 750K on the 206 Rally Car.
I got bored of rallies yesterday because i did the two ice tracks and was just in a mood that said "no more plz." However, the 206 does work really well, i think i will try to Evo VIII Super Rally Car as a post said how well it worked compared to the 206 which i think works great.
 
Easy level:
Tarmac: Camaro Iroc-Z/Silverado SS. Both stock.
Snow/Ice: RSC Raid

Normal:
All: Toyota RSC

Pro:
Tarmac: RSC
Snow/Ice: RS200 Rally, 205 Turbo EvoII

I swear the front of the Car was made from fiberglass, but the sides and back were invincible. :trouble: All the sudden, the Passennger-side door of my 205 became a Rolling ram. :D The Tsukaba wet race in pro was a 🤬, partly because I used a car that refused to turn, partly due to the fact that PD pit me against a Sauber Mercedes. I am glad that's over.
 
The best car to use on the tarmac is a fully modded Elise. I have the 111R and I use Super Soft tires and a wing. I own the competition everytime, it's a little over kill for the easy and normal, but on hard it gives you a good run.
 
For me the eaisest way to pass at the Ice Arena was to go right up against the wall into a corner and just ride the wall. That alone gives you like a second lead and you don't loose that much speed.
 
I beat the entire Special Condition events this weekend. THe rally was extremely hard and I used the Delta to do the rally.
 
Which Delta? The S4 or the Integrale? If you were actually able to use the S4, I :bowdown: to your skills because I can't drive that car to save my life.

BTW, I found a couple of places where you can pass cleanly at Grand Canyon: The hairpins. Especially the three that are the closest to the start/finish line. The AI driver takes a really wide line through these, and goes slowly. I usually brake hard, take them tight and use first gear with alot of throttle to swing the rear of the car around and make the turn.
 
I dont remember which one it is because im at work but when I won it the car came stock with over 450 hp and I believe its an 85ish?
 
SNOW/ICE SUCKS!! I cannot beat it. I am driving the Nismo 400R with 500HP, set-up perfect for the dirt, but can't drive worth a dang on the snow/ice. Please help!! How do I do it. Anyone with the DS2 controller, please let me know how u handle the buttons. Also, how do u tune the RSC. I can't tune it right, a gear lasts about 1/2 a sec before a shift.
 
I've finished all the easy and normal with my Evo VIII GSR. Have not gotten AYC and VCD, just full turbo and the works. I love rallying so I just wanted to jump in right away, boy was I wrong. I spent a lot of time rallying in GT3 and I can pretty much own any car in a Evo VII Rally car, but it's a whole lot different in GT4.

I prefer to drive on automatic whenever I can. Why waste the effort if you can beat them on automatic. Save it for the harder races. First big difference was the wheelspin, you can't floor it at the start like you used to in GT3, the car will stay in the same spot for about 2 seconds while you watch your opponent zip past you. Learn to control the throttle at the beginning, it will be the best thing you learn as it will apply to every race.

Handling in GT4 is quite difference also. Weight transfer is a lot more exaggerated, so you can't be coming out of a turn and flooring it as your car is still shifted to one side, you can't accelerate. Straighten your car out! The rest is easy, just don't rear end the other car, you can still give them a whiff of your exhaust though, so use it.

And I'm using the DS2, talk about sensitive buttons! Just have to learn to move your finger about half a mm at a time and you'll be fine.
 
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SNOW/ICE SUCKS!! I cannot beat it. I am driving the Nismo 400R with 500HP, set-up perfect for the dirt, but can't drive worth a dang on the snow/ice. Please help!! How do I do it. Anyone with the DS2 controller, please let me know how u handle the buttons. Also, how do u tune the RSC. I can't tune it right, a gear lasts about 1/2 a sec before a shift.
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Okay, first off your car has to be lightened, full custom suspension, full custom tranny.
Set your tranny (auto setting at bottom-goes from 1 to 25) to half (13-17?) you want balance of speed and sudden acceleration out of corners.
Lower your ride height, shock bound /rebound +/-2 (i.e. bound 6/rebound 8)
Start using your analog sticks at least for gas/brake, you can throttle better then with buttons.
Learn course, and try to drift AI car in turns. I had a lot of trouble at Cathedral Rocks I & II, slipping all over and crashing left & right. Slowed down, used throttle/brake more efficently then won CR I (hard), then CR I (normal). Wanted ESCUDO !!! :sly: :sly: :sly:
 

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