Speculations, leaks and rumors about future racetracks for GT7

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Nakano219
I'll be honest, I don't think we're getting more than 2 or 3 more new tracks. There's something unique to PD's track creation process that's clearly quite slow compared to other sims. While I'm personally okay with that if it means what we get is super high quality and futureproofed like the car models are, denying it just seems like setting yourself up for failure at this point.
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Genuine question - how hard is it to build a track for GT7?

I seem to recall PD told us how long it takes to build a car, but have they ever said how long it takes for a track?
 
Wouldn’t mind seeing Autumn Ring and Autumn Ring Mini, Kart Space 1 and 2, Apricot Hill, Red Rock, Ascari. We could definitely use an autumn leaves atmosphere I thought for sure we were getting Autumn Ring in fall when Forza was coming out because they had some autumn scenery in the trailers.

One can only hope. I will say though if they don’t start throwing some tracks our way, when other racing games are released they may see their player count drop. Tracks keep players active. Same goes for FPS games when new maps come out. Cars or Guns only take you so far.
 
skydragon49
As much as I like the OG tracks, I also fear what PD may do to them while adapting the tracks to modern standarts or to e-sports competition.
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If High Speed Ring is anything to go by, Mid-field Raceway and Apricot Hill should arrive pretty much intact (with at best minimal updated scenery befitting of the current generation). All 3 tracks were revamped in the PS3 era so I expect them to pretty much arrive as is if they do.
 
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I don't know why anyone would want Yas Marina in the game. Easily one of the worst F1 tracks, and really doesn't share any characteristics in common with gran turismo tracks that people are fond of.

Ultimately tracks that are flat, wide and 5.x km long with 1km straights are suitable for F1 cars but are quite slow and boring for a lot of the car list. Look at Daytona road course for instance - fun enough in Group 3, but you spend way too much of the lap on the throttle doing nothing in Group 4.

I don't think GT is made better by adding average FIA grade 1 tracks that are in multiple other games.
 
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BrunusCL82
Yes. There are many tracks speculated. But this cast was formed based on some suggested elements that may or may not be true.

Remembering, Daytona, Watkins and Road Atlanta were only found in the data from the last GT Sport update. Some time later, the three appeared in the GT7.

As you said, I also think if we have two circuits until the end of GT7's life, it will be a great victory.
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Three circuits is a realistic prediction in my opinion, two in worst case scenario. The game's main life will not going to end before mid/late 2025 IMHO. 4 tracks altough possible, starts to be more on the optimistic side.
 
I wonder if a roadmap even exists at this point (for new tracks). GT Sport added its final two tracks 2 years post launch. We are now 2 years post launch of GT7 and the last real circuit added (not counting Lake Louise) was Grand Valley, over a year ago.

Maybe they are sitting on a big content drop that coincides with the PS5 Pro (like PSVR2 and Grand Valley).
 
liquid_ocelot
I wonder if a roadmap even exists at this point (for new tracks). GT Sport added its final two tracks 2 years post launch. We are now 2 years post launch of GT7 and the last real circuit added (not counting Lake Louise) was Grand Valley, over a year ago.

Maybe they are sitting on a big content drop that coincides with the PS5 Pro (like PSVR2 and Grand Valley).
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Good point. I’d like to see three new tracks before they’re done updating the game. In my opinion, if they want to keep people engaged in the game well after, all they’d need to do is toss out an original track every two to three months.
 
liquid_ocelot
I wonder if a roadmap even exists at this point (for new tracks). GT Sport added its final two tracks 2 years post launch. We are now 2 years post launch of GT7 and the last real circuit added (not counting Lake Louise) was Grand Valley, over a year ago.

Maybe they are sitting on a big content drop that coincides with the PS5 Pro (like PSVR2 and Grand Valley).
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What's your criteria for 'real' track aside from "I didn't like this one so I'm excluding it"
Grand Valley isn't real either?
 
BrunusCL82
Creating this topic to concentrate information about leaks and general questions about the next circuits that may appear in GT7. Considering the supposed evidence and informations, it is possible to infer and list some possibilities.

Firstly, we have dated information for the Red Rock Valley, Tokyo R246, Albert Park, Okayama and Gilles Villeneuve circuits; according to some dataminers who predicted Watkins Glen and Road Atlanta, and the return of Daytona. These three tracks were confirmed in GT7. Albert Park Circuit appeared in scapes leaks and, interestingly, its layout appeared as a wall picture in a promotional video featuring Ordones and Coque Lopez. And supposedly Okayama was named "Tanaka" (the circuit's former name) in the leaked data.

Secondly, there is the trace of Apricot Hill in the GT7 launch announcements. So far we have no other information about this track.

Thirdly, Yas Marina can be considered? In August 2022, PD held a lecture at CEDEC on how to virtually build a racing circuit. The fact that they use this circuit as an example alongside Suzuka is very suggestive, when they could have used another real circuit that is already in the game's roster.

Fourth, we have the Hungaroring. It is said that the real circuit had already partially appeared in a clip from the 2020 Gran Turismo Sport championships. Also, the circuit's facilities were used for filming the film Gran Turismo. Is it possible to say that PD-Sony, in addition to renting the circuit, also took the opportunity to digitize the circuit?

Fifth, last year, YouTuber @Tidgney heard rumors from important people at the World Tour that Zolder would be a future addition to GT7.

Sixth, user @wbhumphries predicted before the release of Road Atlanta that the track would appear on the GT7, also Sebring. He states this justifying in a source. According to him, an important person from Daytona Speedway management confirmed that Kaz had visited Road Atlanta and Sebring. Road Atlanta was confirmed a few months later. Sebring is owned by the same owner as Daytona and Road Atlanta.

Seventh, can we say Sugo? I don't know if we can consider it as indicative. Anyway, the fact is, a few days ago, Kaz expressly mentioned on Twitter that Sportsland SUGO was the location that served as the setting for the cover photography of the GT1 game. SUGO is also mentioned in the Neoclassic race in the game.

So, we have the possible circuits for the future of the franchise.
  • Red Rock Valley
  • Tokyo R246
  • Albert Park
  • Gilles Villeneuve
  • Okayama
  • Apricot Hill
  • Yas Marina
  • Hungaroring
  • Zolder
  • Sebring
  • Sugo
If anyone has other information about the circuits that may appear in the GT7, post it here.
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Wow Gilles Villeneuve and Yas Marina will come to Spec 3 update in December. Can't wait to see more datamine tracks to appear in GT 7
 
Captain Willy
Wow Gilles Villeneuve and Yas Marina will come to Spec 3 update in December. Can't wait to see more datamine tracks to appear in GT 7
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It seems like one or two tracks per year is still a thing
2022 - Watkins Glen and Road Atlanta
2023 - Grand Valley and Lake Louise
2024 - Eiger
2025 - Yas Marina and Gilles Villeneuve

I wonder if we will get something in 2026 :)
 
I was just thinking if real f1 tracks are too much costly...why don't they aplly for mugello or istanbulpark...nothing "big" is happening there..ok mugello moto gp. but anyway
or they do fictional circuit like they have done in past.
 
It’s really not that expensive licensing wise to have the cars or tracks….its more about being time consuming and designing/developing and testing them.

Let’s take a track.

It needs expensive kit on site to scan the whole thing, then landscape artists need to texture the thing scenery and all, then you need physics to understand the surfaces so “physics and terrain properties” then you have to bop all cars for it, then you need a circuit experience for it, then you need Sophy potentially for it but as a base line a race for it AI but then with custom races you have to test as many custom parameters you can with it.

These things are not easy and they take a whole bunch of time, when you consider that this is work in parallel to BAU work or stuff like Spec 2 or 3
 
MroczMR
It seems like one or two tracks per year is still a thing
2022 - Watkins Glen and Road Atlanta
2023 - Grand Valley and Lake Louise
2024 - Eiger
2025 - Yas Marina and Gilles Villeneuve

I wonder if we will get something in 2026 :)
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There were also 4 tracks in the two year 2020-21 gap between Sport and 7 (Daytona and the three returning PS1 tracks).

It does seem like 2 a year is just PD's pace.
 
I'm thinking we will get something in 2026. Mobility Resort Motegi seems like a good bet.

I will say one original legacy circuit were definitely missing is Autumn Ring. Maybe it was GT5 or 6 that featured the high resolution Autumn Ring with leaves and birds.
Was it GT Academy that had players use a 370Z or (no pun intended)LEAF for a TT?

Anyway, we've got all legacy circuits except Autumn Ring. Really can't see us getting the Clubman and Test Course tracks when we have Tokyo Expwy and Route X.
 
Scuderia Paul
That would be a terrific update but I just don't see it happening. GT8 in my opinion will bring full dynamic time and weather to all circuits.
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Either this, or PD is doing some kind of weather overhaul which is held back for later. I remember that GT Sport did get rain variants of some tracks at the end of its life. Maybe we will get this eventually?
 
Scuderia Paul
That would be a terrific update but I just don't see it happening. GT8 in my opinion will bring full dynamic time and weather to all circuits.
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A cool extension of what Polyphony has already done would be letting us not just pick the time of day, but also the day of the year. Their skybox system can already accurately map out the stars, so recreating other seasons would just mean adding another axis of rotation. The reason they haven't done this yet is because it would mess with the sun's height—it's lower in winter and higher in summer—which affects shadows. And right now, their graphics engine still uses some pre-baked shadows and ambient occlusion.

But with a logical evolution to a real-time global illumination system, they could totally open up the possibility of changing the season.

This change would need a weather system update, too, since what they have is already pretty solid. We could see rain more often in the fall than in the spring, and maybe even have a chance of snow on tracks like the Nürburgring. The scenery would have to change as well, as some trees around the circuits are deciduous and would lose their leaves in fall and winter. So maybe the future "Autum Ring" could become an "All Seasons Ring" 😉.

By the way, I mentioned this a few months ago, but there's solid proof that one of the next tracks Polyphony is working on is a revamped version of Tahiti, just like we saw in that video showing the PD team taking plant references there.

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Melbourne circuit that which we had seen as a neon sign in a video on Gtplanet channel in YouTube....
if I'm not mistaken....
 
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One thing I'd like to know, but we're never going to find out, is how much the pandemic affected the circuit plans for this game.

Given even fictional tracks require real life location scanning these days, I suspect the answer might be "a lot". but alas we'll never know.
 
Nakano219
One thing I'd like to know, but we're never going to find out, is how much the pandemic affected the circuit plans for this game.

Given even fictional tracks require real life location scanning these days, I suspect the answer might be "a lot". but alas we'll never know.
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I suspect not much. No more than it did for adding new cars.

Once the team is given the go-ahead to scan a circuit they're probably left to their own devises and to work out in the open air - other than being let through the front gate. Most of the work would take place back in their studios where the usual restrictions would have taken place.
 
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