CivicInLake
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any reasons it corners so horribly? front downforce at max even.
When you remember how fast it is in any given gear, and compensate with earlier braking, it handles quite well.
Yep I have one that's completely stock and it handles great, you just have to remember to brake earlier than you do in most other cars. Mine handles great stock anyway, I've won plenty of races against supercars with it. You don't need to play with the settings either to induce oversteer, just accelerate a bit harder than you should in any gear up to 4th and the rear wheels will spint. It's a 1000kg 880bhp monster of a road car, you just need to drive it with the respect you should.When you remember how fast it is in any given gear, and compensate with earlier braking, it handles quite well.
The car obviously doesnt turn as sharp as it should, and even though it looks big it really isnt that big or heavy so it shouldnt handle so horribly for such a fantastic car.
That isnt my problem. I love how insane of a car it is. I dont like how I can corner the same corner in the sambabus on comfort softs faster completely stock when I try and just coast around it at the same speed in the TVR just pure understeer. That isnt real.
I guess Ill just get used to it then eh?
That'll be the TVR Speed 12 that Peter Wheeler refused to sell to people because it was far too dangerous to actually drive it on the public roads?
The real Speed 12 is a catastrophe wrapped up in a really, really big, fiery accident waiting to happen. It weighs as much as a Lotus Elise and has a 7.7 litre V12 up the front. There's no weight on the rear - driven axle - and 800hp+ is trying to make its way to the ground on a contact patch the size of a piece of A5 paper. It has understeer and oversteer all at once, all at 200mph. If this sounds familiar to you, it'd seem that the GT5 one isn't that far removed from reality...
I dont like how I can corner the same corner in the sambabus on comfort softs faster completely stock when I try and just coast around it at the same speed in the TVR just pure understeer. That isnt real.
That isnt my problem. I love how insane of a car it is. I dont like how I can corner the same corner in the sambabus on comfort softs faster completely stock when I try and just coast around it at the same speed in the TVR just pure understeer. That isnt real.
I guess Ill just get used to it then eh?
Not being able to take the corner at indy at over 250 shows this, it should corner sharper and not understeer as much even at high speeds.
I'd like to see some documentary proof of that.
155mph? I'm curious as to what your Indy times are in the Speed 12 if that's all you can manage in the corners.
Stock from the UCD, on Sport - Hard tires and without an oil change, the Speed 12 can take those corners at 140+mph and put down times into the 54s.
Fully modified on Race - Soft tires, and producing over 1000hp, it can take those corners at 175+mph, with times into the 46s.
In the hands of a better driver / tuner, those times can drop even more. You have to slow down for the corners, because it's a street car, but even most race cars -- barring many high-end MR LM cars, as well as the FGT and X1 -- have to slow down entering the corners.
any reasons it corners so horribly? front downforce at max even.
I disagree. The game gets close sometimes, but it's not completely true to life.This game is true to life, the physics don't need fixing in this game
look at this video clip and listen to what Jeremy Clarkson at 44 seconds in, case closed, conclusion you have no idea what you're talking about
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYFREqhRO6k
Just tried tuning for a good half hour and still havent managed to go around Indy corners at over 160 MPH with Racing Softs and front downforce at max. With comfort softs 120 MPH is BARELY able to go around the corner without understeering into the wall even if i go into the corner perfectly and give it no throttle at all through the whole corner.
I just cant see any car understeering like that in real life, its the ****ing indy track you should be able to go around it topped.
I just cant see any car understeering like that in real life, its the ****ing indy track you should be able to go around it topped.
In GT, lateral grip has 3 factors:
1. Road car vs race car
2. tire
3. downforce
Im just going to test with other cars such as the viper to see how they compare. If its the same Im gonna have to suck it the **** up.
Agreed, though I'd probably explain point 1 as two points; weight and centre of gravity. Lower weight equals lower inertia, and the closer to the road that sits means, er... Not sure how to explain it scientifically, but it's a commonly accepted fact that the lower a car is, the better it's lateral grip will be.