Spring rate roll bar balence?

[Sol_Badass]

In the games description it says "when the springs are stiffened, the stabilizers are softened". By stabilizer they mean the roll bars right?

 

[budious]

The game says a lot of things that can be safely disregarded. I know what it's trying to say on the subject but there is no golden rule to be broken.

 

[Ronald6]

Replace "are" with "should be" and it will be more correct I believe. And it could be referring to bound/rebound or anti-roll bars. Both would be correct depending on how much the springs are increased.

If anyone knows differently please correct me.

 

[articzap]

As springs get softer, you need more roll bar. When springs are stiff, less weight transfers so you need less roll bar.

I prefer medium to soft-medium with a heavier sway bar. It's just what I learned in school for race car setup.

 

[chris speed]

Hi, personally, as a basic set-up, I prefer stiffer springs around 60% max. front and rear and the roll bars at 7/7 for a road track that's not too bumpy. Camber 2/1.2. Most of the cars I have work well with this set-up.

 

[GrimSinn]

As springs get softer, you need more roll bar. When springs are stiff, less weight transfers so you need less roll bar.

I prefer medium to soft-medium with a heavier sway bar. It's just what I learned in school for race car setup.

This is almost right.

No matter the suspension settings (aside from ride height that reduces the amount of weight transferred by lowering the center of gravity) the same amount of weight transfers. What your doing is manipulating the way it transfers.

However you are spot on the rest. Soft springs need stiffer roll bars or she will be crazy in corners and a nightmare in S-turns. As the springs are stiffened the stiff sway bars are not needed as much as they are not required to overcompensate for a soft spring settings.

But that's more for street cars, when it comes to the track, the balance of the car after modifying it & the fact "comfort" is no longer an issue allows for much aggressive settings.

 

[Schadenfreude13]

This is almost right.

No matter the suspension settings (aside from ride height that reduces the amount of weight transferred by lowering the center of gravity) the same amount of weight transfers. What your doing is manipulating the way it transfers.

However you are spot on the rest. Soft springs need stiffer roll bars or she will be crazy in corners and a nightmare in S-turns. As the springs are stiffened the stiff sway bars are not needed as much as they are not required to overcompensate for a soft spring settings.

But that's more for street cars, when it comes to the track, the balance of the car after modifying it & the fact "comfort" is no longer an issue allows for much aggressive settings.

Actually you're both right. Heavier cars (by heavy I mean >1000kg) tend to perform better with soft-med (I'd say med) and heavier roll bars while lighter cars like the heavy spring settings with less roll bar. Keep in mind this is more of a general rule that applies to real world race cars and to some degree wont translate to GT5 since it doesnt perfectly reflect real-world mechanics.

Also, open-wheel cars are a bit different because they transfer their vertical loads to the horizontal plane, just in case that is what is being referred to by "race car".

 

[nomis3613]

Replace "are" with "should be" and it will be more correct I believe.

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Springs reduce body roll, just like roll bars. So they are trying to say that you don't need much roll bar if you have stiff springs. Stiff roll bars suck over bumps, so it is better to minimise the roll bars where possible.