Stoddart's account of Indy events

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I read that article a few hours ago on bimmerforums.com and all I could really say is, wow.

Talking to some F1 fans and some of my friends, many people are a bit mad at Stoddart for letting Minardi race.

But I see it in a different way.

From the statements he made, it was clear that he didn't want the Minardi's to run. He would've even pulled out if Jordan decided to do the same also. But as they are at this moment, Minardi participates in Formula 1 with a very tight and lean budget. Mosley would definately impose huge fines to those who didn't race. If Minardi sat out for no mechanical or safety reasons, and also for Stoddarts current relationship with Mosley, Mr. Mosley would of sent them a huge and hefty fine. With Minardi's current budget, they would probably not be able to pay for it. All again, Mosley threatened this at the Australian GP. Stoddart didn't put the Minardi's out because he wanted to, it was because he was threatened and put under pressure.

Mosley and Jean Todt, in my opinion, is the reason why all of this happened.
Although Michelin was the one who started it, they at least had proposals and ideas to have all the teams run the USGP. It seemed as if Mosley and Todlt didn't give a crap about the image and integrity of Formula 1. Mosley rejected all these proposals, having at least a no-points race, at least something for the thousands of fans that made there way there and the millions on tv, but instead, gave us an exhibition show for the Ferrari's. Todt also seems to be Mosley's only ally out of all the teams for not agreeing with the proposals also.

I'm glad to see Stoddart stand up for the image and integrity of Formula 1.

All in all, I view Mosley and Ferrari as the one's who did this and could have ultimately avoided this all together.

If Mosley is still president by next year, I really hope that the manufacturers pull out of F1 and start there own league.
 
Just because Jean Todt disagreed with putting a chicane in put him in the same boat as Max Mosley.
If it had been reversed, and Bridgestone had the faulty tire, I can guarantee Ron Dennis, Flavio Briatore, and others would not have agreed to a chicane either.
It was Michelin's fault first, Mosley made it worse, Todt's opinion didn't, and wouldn't, have mattered anyway.
 
Didn't Todt claim that he wasn't approached about the chicane idea anyway?

Blake
 
For the guys who still want to link Ferrari and the FIA positions, here is what F. Williams (which is known for being fair and objective, not like Stoddard) said :


F1live
Williams' team was one of the seven Michelin runners who did not race at Indy. According to Williams, such was their desperation to race, the Michelin runners agreed to run even if it meant they couldn't score World Championship points.
"We were desperate to compete, to give the American fans their entertainment, even if it meant giving up championship points," he told BBC Radio Five Live
"Racing in North America is fundamental to Formula One's commercial health. Please understand that teams consider North America an untapped commercial market of considerable potential.
We all need to race in the United States. We need more than one race in the United States
More than 50% of our team's sponsorship income comes from the US, so we were all prepared to compromise because we had been told by Michelin that the tyres were dangerous.
We tried very hard for a compromise. I Max felt he could not compromise."
Williams also insisted that the teams were not to blame for their sub-standard Michelin tyres.
"It's not accurate," he said of the FIA's statement against the Michelin seven. "They've blamed the teams totally which is what we expected. The reality is that teams do not supply tyres."
"We've just received notice that we must appear in front of the beak," he added, referring to next Wednesday's FIA hearing. "No doubt we will be humiliated etc but we are quite used to that."
Elsewhere, Williams also exonerated Ferrari of any culpability for the affair.
They were totally innocent in this affair entirely," he told Reuters. "They had no reason not to race."
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You really should stop blaming ferrari for that, if one of their most important rivals didn't, why do you ?
 
FFS ferrai had nothing to do with it sheesh get it out of your heads. why would you belive anything stoddart said about ferrari, hes probably the biggest anti ferrari fanboy,
 
Aren't I entitled to an opinion?

I'm not here to offend anyone but that is how I see it from my point of view.

We'll never know what exactly happened until we see something like all the teams coming together and agreeing to what went down.

I'm not biased or anything, I am a fan of all the teams and I carry no favorites, so don't think I'm taking anti-Ferrari pills.

The way I see it...
is that, how come Ferrari disagreed to the proposals when all the other teams gave it a go? I mean, come on now. Think about the thousands of fans that travelled there just to watch the USGP. I know 10 people who spent over a thousand (you should see the prices there on race weekends, eep) just to come home in complete disgust. If Ferrari did care about them, why didn't they? I honestly believe that if Michael used his position and weight in F1, maybe Mosley might have changed his mine and at least give something to the fans.
 
Ferrari had no problems with turn 13 so why should they have to compromise because the other teams weren't prepared. I believe that if Minardi and Jordan were competitive they also wouldn't have agreed on the chicane. I think that Jordan or Minardi didn't care because they are going to place in the bottem 4 no matter what. So basically I believe that Ferrari was right in their decision and all the whiners try to blame them for it when it was clearly the FIA and Michellin's fault.
 
SouL
http://www.planetf1.com/features/race_features/story_20035.shtml

Defenitely worth a read if you're at all interested in the developement of what took place at Indianapolis.

Although this was a very interesting read Paul Stoddart is far from being objective.
  • He had his problem in the past with Max Mosley and obviously doesn’t think highly of him. And,
  • He is very careful not to put too much blame on Michelin since next year there is a chance they will be the sole tires provider.
 
see thats the problem everyone thinks ferrari was asked about the chicane when in fact they where never approached about it, and their opinion wouldnt have mattetred anyways.
 
Rona
Ferrari had no problems with turn 13 so why should they have to compromise because the other teams weren't prepared. I believe that if Minardi and Jordan were competitive they also wouldn't have agreed on the chicane. I think that Jordan or Minardi didn't care because they are going to place in the bottem 4 no matter what.So basically I believe that Ferrari was right in their decision and all the whiners try to blame them for it...

Exactly. Why should Ferrari have given up any sort of advantage; one that fell into their lap? They did everything right for once. I too, am getting tired to everyone trying to make Michael and Ferrari a scapegoat.

Rona
when it was clearly the FIA and Michellin's fault.

Michelin did the right thing, on the grounds of safety. Plain and simple. It was the teams who made the decision not to race.

The FIA could have compromised, but didn't. They stuck to the rulebook, and didn't budge. The fact that they seem to bend for Ferrari at times, but didn't makes them look bad. They made no compromise, which might have made almost everyone happy.

In reality, the race was just about as exciting as most Ferrari benefits were in 2002 or 2004 (or replace with "Williams" and "1992"; or "McLaren" and "1988"...you get the idea), except the race had a lot more intrigue!

Since everyone thinks they're right (fans, Michelin, Ferrari, FIA, IMS), then the only reasonable thing to happen is for Formula One as we know it to disintegrate. It's on the path to do so; it's a matter of when, not "if".
 
you wanna know who the real culprit is! look below. :lol: :lol:
 

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Michelin did the right thing, on the grounds of safety. Plain and simple. It was the teams who made the decision not to race.

Sure I will agree with you on that aspect that they should have informed the teams. When I was talking about Michelin screwing up I was refering to them making crappy tires, not about them informing the teams. Michelin made the right decision to inform the teams.
 
pupik
it's a matter of when, not "if".

As Murray Walker was so fond of saying...

"...aaaaaaaand "if" is "F1" backwards!"

No Murray. That'd be 1F.
 
Famine
As Murray Walker was so fond of saying...

"...aaaaaaaand "if" is "F1" backwards!"

No Murray. That'd be 1F.

1F \wunf\ : The sound I make when I'm talking with my mouth full.
 
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