Stop Whaling - PETITION!

I think it's interesting that everyone jumps on the 'anti-whaling' bandwagon.

Yes, they don't repoduce quickly and the hunting is reducing the numbers, but there are many other animals like this.

What about commercial fishing operations? How many thousands of tonnes of Tuna are removed from the southern oceans each year? This must have an effect on the Tuna population? But is there an 'anti-Tuna-hunting' campaign as strong as the anti-whaling one?

Marlin are another good example. Very little is known about Marlin, yet they are the prize fish of many an offshore fisherman. Why is there no strong anti-Marlin-hunting movement? We don't even bother to study them to know if their population is greatly affected.

And there are other creatures that are hunted and near extinction, yet the movements are not as strong.

So, I return to my original question - Why is the anti-whaling bandwagon so large?

Is it because whales are docile and 'friendly', graceful, because they 'talk' to each other and us? Are any of these things really relevant?

Why does the greater population of the world not know about the plight of the Giant Carniverous Snail (not sure of it's exact name) on the West Coast of New Zealand? Is it because snails are not as lovable as whales?

Sure, hunting whales is bad and the practice should be stopped, but there are many other causes that need petitions too. This snail thing for example - the fact I don't even know the name of it shows the amount of press that it gets. :rolleyes:

What are your opinions on why whaling should be stopped, and why it is so much more important than any other creature?
 
Personally, I'm against hunting anything. Period.

Why should something be taken out of it's natual habitat just so you can enjoy a 'delicacy'?

And yes, what you say about Giant Carnivorous Snails is true. No one cares about them, because they don't really do anything apart from;

A: Being Giant
B: Being Carnivorous
C: Being Snails

If the G.C.S could sing or be trained to backflip, then it probably would get a fair go too.
 
ferrari_chris
Is it because whales are docile and 'friendly', graceful, because they 'talk' to each other and us? Are any of these things really relevant?
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Personally, yes. I had never heard of this snail. It's really fascinating, but between the snail and whales, I'd choose whales to save, for the reasons you've mentioned.
 
I still don't get why it's "morally wrong" to kill an animal.

It's just an animal. It doesn't matter whether it's popular to eat it in the West (pig, sheep, cow, chicken), popular to eat in the East (dog, turtle, whale), popular to eat in Africa (snake, crocodile, ostrich), popular to eat in France (anything) or just some big fluffy thing you can pretend is lovable (tiger). It's just an animal - why is it "morally wrong" to kill it at all, even if not for food?


Why does it, somehow, matter more if it is an animal present in only small numbers (or "endangered")?
 
If you have grandchildren (god forbid :p), would you care if they never got the opportunity to see (or eat) a whale, simply because humans had hunted them to extinction?

I agree with you, I have no moral feelings about it, and all species will die out eventually – but why should we let it continue if we have the opportunity to stop it?
 
Blake
If you have grandchildren (god forbid ), would you care if they never got the opportunity to see (or eat) a whale, simply because humans had hunted them to extinction?
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Not really.
 
Mustang-man
...it just seems entierly wrong (just like fishing for anything...morally wrong).
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Even blue gill, catfish, bass, and trout? I mean, I can catch blue gill all day long and no one will notice the difference. Heck, I do catch blue gill all day long.

Have you ever gone fishing or hunting?

So do you eat meat at all since killing them is not moral to you?
 
Anderton Prime
I thought there was a petition to sign in this thread!!
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There is in the first post. It is to the right of the game.
 
Oh yeah, there it is. I must be really tired this morning; I thought the top of this page was the first post. Didn't even realize there were two pages!

I think I'll go and eat some Apple Cinnamon Cheerios to get my brain back into gear...
 
I wonder if people ever feel guilty about their immune systems attacking bacteria?
 
Sage
I wonder if people ever feel guilty about their immune systems attacking bacteria?
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👍 Those poor viruses. Smallpox is on the endangered list right? If someone threw a rock that hit you in the head, would you feel bad for the rock?
 
I don't get why people are against hunting, animals would just do the same to us (Although without the rifle and really uber cool hats they wear).

Put yourself in this situation, you have a rifle and a lion is rapidly approaching ready to rip your head off.

Your not gonna stroke it and hope it will be your pal are you? :odd:
 
Anderton Prime
What about that crap Dick Cheney calls "hunting?" He goes to a ranch with captivity-bred birds living more or less in cages, and shoots them.
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Or not... :lol:
 
Anderton Prime
What about that crap Dick Cheney calls "hunting?" He goes to a ranch with captivity-bred birds living more or less in cages, and shoots them.
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Think of it as a poultry farm where you get to kill your own dinner.
 
danoff
Well at least you're consistent. Does that include plants?
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I should of emphasised the point of hunting. Anyway, plants you eat, are grown for the purpose. You don't exactly hunt them down out of the wild.
 
Casio
I should of emphasised the point of hunting. Anyway, plants you eat, are grown for the purpose. You don't exactly hunt them down out of the wild.
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So basically you prefer something to live a bad life and die accordingly than live a good life and die badly?
 
Casio
I should of emphasised the point of hunting. Anyway, plants you eat, are grown for the purpose. You don't exactly hunt them down out of the wild.
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Chickens, Cows, etc. are grown for a purpose. Does that make it ok in your mind?

What if the plants weren't grown for a purpose, what if they were hunted down in the wild and killed for their fruit?

What I'm getting at here is, what is the difference in your mind between a plant and an animal? What is it that distinguishes the two such that one has morality considerations and the other does not?
 
Anderton Prime
I think I'll go and eat some Apple Cinnamon Cheerios to get my brain back into gear...
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...I think I'll go eat some whale.
 
This is pathetic, i'm not wasting my time on this anymore. I've already explained my reasons, if you have trouble reading/understanding them then thats not my problem.
 
Omnis
...I think I'll go eat some whale.
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I was thinking of sprinkling some dried whalemeat bits on my spaghetti last night, but I was all out and the store I buy that stuff from isn't open 24 hours anymore, not since those crazy fat guys stole 85 bald eagle roasts right before Christmas last year. Isn't that just like criminals, to ruin it for the rest of us?!
 
Mustang-man
This is pathetic, i'm not wasting my time on this anymore. I've already explained my reasons, if you have trouble reading/understanding them then thats not my problem.
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Let's take a look at all that time that you've spent in this thread carefully articulating your "reasons".

Mustang-man
Hopefully this hasn't been posted here before. Personally i'm against whaling for no other reason other than it just seems entierly wrong (just like fishing for anything, or hunting things that are nearly extinct is morally wrong).

And i know this is probably in the wrong forum, just wanted it to get more exposure.

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See the words nearly extinct in my quote? We shouldn't be killing off species that share the planet with us.

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These are the sort of responses i expected over at the GTX, but it seems there has been a role reversal.

I'm not sure if i used 'morally' in the right context or not, but my vocabulary is fairly limited so it is all i could come up with at the time.

I'm just not a hunting person. Would never go and shoot rabbits, birds or anything of the sort, so am against all forms of hunting - albiet in a silent way (i don't actively do anyhing about it usually).

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With negative attitudes, no. There has been a few petitions in the past that have worked, isn't that the way South Park started being made again?
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The only actual "reason" I could get out of the bit that you've written here is "it just seems entierly wrong". Which isn't really going to cut it for me (or probably anyone else for that matter).
 
Tough luck, thats all you're getting. To me it seems wrong, to you obviously not. End of story. What is so hard to understand about that?
 
What danoff said.

You've STATED your reasons, but not explained them. Why are you so unwilling to explain your opinion that it is "morally wrong" or "entirely wrong"?

I mean it's not hard.
Person 1: I think hunting is wrong.
Person 2: Why?
Person 1: Because... (list of reasons)

Surely you've thought about it, in order to arrive at your conclusion?
 

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