Street legal

[bullet360]

Ive been wondering and pondering about what the difference should be between a street legal car and a non-street legal car... Any ideas?

 

[GT_Fanatic69]

Ehhhh???

 

[Spagetti69]

I'll start.

No indicators.

Edit.
Actually some areas may allow the use of hand signals.

I'll add no horns.

 

[VBR]

It would depend on what country & region you're from, OBVIOUSLY!

 

[TurboProp]

Safety features, pollution/smog control, gas milage to name a few. Long list and depending where you are at in the World (Kenya or California?).

 

[TeddyBear-420]

in the game... tyres would be the firsts thing

 

[daan]

How is this relevant to GT5?

 

[Eric W]

Street legal refers to a vehicle that is equipped and licensed for use on public roads. This will require specific configurations of lighting, signal lights, and safety equipment that need not be included in race cars that are used only on closed race tracks and therefore do not need all the features of a street-legal vehicle.

 

[strngz0731]

How is this relevant to GT5?

👍 ∞

Since there's no "street" driving in GT5, it's moot.

If you're asking as far as determining a certain group of cars to organize in a race, then the easiest grouping you can do would be to group stock manufacturer - not tuning company - models of similar configuration and performance, and keep them stock.

If you're talking about "in general" or "in real life", then it would primarily depend upon specific location as other posts have indicated.

Peace...

 

[freedomweasel]

Obvious answer: depends on your local laws.

Relevance to GT5, questions about "fastest street legal car" come up pretty often, as well as wanting to get fastest laps in street cars, or a street car only series, etc. Though, it should probably go into the Q&A forum. Or the OP could have just googled.

 

[cally-dave]

Street legal cars must have working indicators, reverse lights, etc, wheels are NOT aloud to extend past the outer edge of the wheel arch, tyres must have tread, the handbrake must be cable operated (as opposed to hydraulic - drift cars etc) I think roll cages can only be bolt in, and not welded too.....

 

[Bjink]

Off topic but u couldnt buy skylines in the US of A but they replaced it with the sad look-a-like the galant

 

[Stigsblkcousin]

^Wha?

If you mean a "street legal" tune in regards to GT, I would have to say 1 or 2 weight reduction, no racing anything(except maybe air filter) stage 2 engine tune at the most, stock windows, and no racing slicks.

 

[freedomweasel]

Street legal cars must have working indicators, reverse lights, etc, wheels are NOT aloud to extend past the outer edge of the wheel arch, tyres must have tread, the handbrake must be cable operated (as opposed to hydraulic - drift cars etc) I think roll cages can only be bolt in, and not welded too.....

...and emissions laws, ride height laws, number of headlights, the color of the lights, noise levels, crash testing, etc, etc

There are hundreds of laws that determine if a car is legal to drive on public roads where you live. These laws will of course be different where someone else lives.

 

[Vince_Fiero]

We had some other examples in some other thread, but this has a license plate, because it is street legal:

As you see it can be quite extreme and still be in the local regulations.
P.S.: Even in strict regulations like Germany, I saw once a Formula car that was transformed and licensed there.

 

[apex28del]

Street legality is certainly is a very, very subjective thing to judge.
Jeremy Clarkson decided that the power laps of a few 'street cars' would be invalidated and not placed on Top Gear's Power Lap Board because the cars were either running on slick tires, or "not high enough to clear a sleeping policeman". Basically, the way I see it, there are four categories:

1) Cars that easily meet all specifications for being 'street-legal'; think the Toyota Prius, which meets crash and emissions standards in the over 70 countries in which it is sold.

2) Cars that, by the uninformed, would be deemed to be street-legal, but may fail regulations in some countries. Think of the Nissan Skyline R34, which did not meet US crash test standards, and needs various running gear modifications to be considered street-legal in most US states.

3) Borderline cars; these are likely the source of argument. The Caparo T1 is a good example of an 'iffy' car that has struggled to achieve certification. And no, it can't clear a sleeping policeman, at least in pre-production guise.

4) Race cars, like the new Audi R18 LMP, are certainly not street-legal. Keep in mind that this category may also include cars like the Zonda R, Ferrari FXX, Ferrari 599XX, and the Aston Martin DBRS that are obviously derived from road-going models (Zonda, Enzo, 599, DB9) but were developed and built purely for racing, even if they are available to consumers.

 

[Willfred_1]

the handbrake must be cable operated (as opposed to hydraulic - drift cars etc) I think roll cages can only be bolt in, and not welded too.....

firstly i think roll cages can be welded
secoundly you clearly don't know about a rally trick you have the hydraulic hand brake but you leave the cables in but not connected so when he checks for cables it passes mot


just make sure if you do do this always park on flat ground or use chucks and a pin to stop it rolling away lol

 

[GTWelsh]

Nice ^^

 

[daan]

firstly i think roll cages can be welded
secoundly u clearly don't know about a rally trick u have the hydraulic hand brake but u leave the cables in but not connected so when he checks for cables it passes mot

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[NFSCARBON1]

Generally new cars (older cars get special permissions) need to have headlights, brakelights and indicators and an approved chassis (which is why TopGear used a TVR chassis to make Geoff or the I Hammerhead so it didn't need to be scrutineered.) New build cars can't have sharp edges or anything that may harm pedestrians or occupants (but reasonable parts can be fitted at a later date). Tyres must have tread on them and in most countries catalytic converters and silencers need to be fitted to the exhaust.
Taillights

 

[bullet360]

Hahah i apologize for the unclearity... I meant in gt5 for races online but the information that has been given is pretty interesting.... And i also thought of 1 couple of mins ago... No front end downforce adjustablility? Like the commen S2000 gt1 turbo... Or the VW nardo... Or citroen gt road car...

 

[Willfred_1]

delete this

 

[Willfred_1]

Generally new cars (older cars get special permissions) need to have headlights, brakelights and indicators and an approved chassis (which is why TopGear used a TVR chassis to make Geoff or the I Hammerhead so it didn't need to be scrutineered.) New build cars can't have sharp edges or anything that may harm pedestrians or occupants (but reasonable parts can be fitted at a later date). Tyres must have tread on them and in most countries catalytic converters and silencers need to be fitted to the exhaust.
Taillights

does not need headlight or indicators if you are in the uk and are using a daylight mot but gets complicated if you space frame an old car and change old engine to a modern one as its mechanic-ly its a complete different car

 

[kilttraeger]

does not need headlight or indicators if you are in the uk and are using a daylight mot but gets complicated if you space frame an old car and change old engine to a modern one as its mechanic-ly its a complete different car

A little present, for future use:

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Should increase the readability slightly.

 

[NFSCARBON1]

does not need headlight or indicators if you are in the uk and are using a daylight mot but gets complicated if you space frame an old car and change old engine to a modern one as its mechanic-ly its a complete different car

Very true they are not needed on a daylight MOT, but there are very few new cars that fall into the category. I think that with 'space framed' cars it usually goes on modifications to the chassis itself. For example if you stuck a different engine and gearbox into the front of an old Mini, as long as you didn't need to fiddle around with the chassis too much it'd still be road legal without needing to go through scrutineering. If you put the engine in the back (like a hayabusa conversion) and start cutting lumps out of the chassis to make it fit it needs to be checked out, more for safety reasons than anything.

 

[Willfred_1]

Sorry for my bad grammar but i have serve dyslexia and so my grammar isn't great.

 

[kilttraeger]

Sorry Wilfred_1, my apologies. I have no excuse for behaving like a 🤬

 

[SonicWagon]

It varies state to state even city to city here in the States. My car has the catalytic converters removed which is actually a federal crime but there is no federal agency enforcing it, so it falls on the local laws. In the county I live in there is no exhaust inspection, no smog, no noise ordinance.

However, I can not get it registered in many places in the US in it's current form. Most states do smog and visual inspection, which would find my car illegal. You can register anything with any modifications here. People build caged V8 powered 3 wheelers in their garage and they get them registered here.

 

[TT3AZ]

Well, a better question is street car vs non street car. Street cars doesnt have to be street legal though.

A street car is a semi sport car so to say, even a high hp semi sportcar can be a streetcar. For example impreza, evo, rx7, skyline, supra, s2000, camaro, etc.

Supercar on the other hand, is cars that was build from the manufacturer to be unique and exclusive. For example ferrari enzo, gallardo, zonda, mclaren etc.

Streetcars can perform better than supercars, but they were build for different customers, intensions etc.

Depending on were you live, street legal cars is hard to define. Most of the modified cars arent 100% street legal according to the law, but it depends on how picky you are. Personly i dont care about the law or society, or human right (just kidding)

A street legal car in some states in US might aswell be illegal to drive on public roads in sweden, and vice versa.

But if some one wants to race me in his 900 hp enzo, and i have like a camaro with 660hp? Is that equal according to you? And that is a much better question. People in gt5 dont understand that weight, hp/tq curve, aerodynamics etc, must be some how equal if there are going to ba a fair race (drag racing).

"ohhh i smokes his supra, camaro" - I hear that often, but they have cars that has more hp, less weight, and better aerodynamics.

 

[witham]

One that a lot of car manufactorers complain about is light positioning, they have to be a specific distances and a certain size.