Surround sound in GT3?

[Street Fighter]

Is there a way to set up a 4 point surround sound system so you can hear each tire individually, or does GT3 support that?

 

[Duke]

I don't know if the game isolates each tire (which admittedly be way cool), but there is ambient surround sound if you connect your PS2 to the receiver with a fiber optic cable.

I still need to buy a cable and hook mine up that way.

 

[Quisp]

Im using the fiberoptic cable to my AVR, and that in itself, makes gameplay all the more enjoyable.

Btw, is there anything difinitive regarding GT4's sound system? Im not sure what the PS/2's sound limitations are, but, Id like love to hear GT4 in DTS

 

[cybrstuff]

GT3 doesn't support any true form of surround sound. I have my PS2 hooked up to my Logitech Z-680s using a fiberoptic cable, so technically, my setup supports anything the PS2 can throw at it, but in GT3, all that is sent to the decoder is a standard stereo (2.0) feed.

 

[Der Alta]

Actually, with a Dolby 5.1 receiver the PS2 is capable of dolby Pro-logic surround sound.

It does not support Dolby Digital 5.1 surround sound. Even when watching a DVD. So the most we can hope for with GT4 is an improvement in sound quality.

AO

 

[Street Fighter]

Weak.

 

[cybrstuff]

Originally posted by Der Alta
Actually, with a Dolby 5.1 receiver the PS2 is capable of dolby Pro-logic surround sound.

It does not support Dolby Digital 5.1 surround sound. Even when watching a DVD. So the most we can hope for with GT4 is an improvement in sound quality.

I know that I have my speakers set up to do Pro Logic II for GT3, but as far as I know, the game isn't expressly coded for it (is it?). It just happens to work. This is opposed to some other games that are actually encoded in Pro Logic (II). Also, I thought the PS2 was capable of DTS or Dolby Digital pass-through. It can't process the surround signals, but it can pass them via a fiber optic cable to a receiver that can.

Edit: I consulted the manual, and it says, "By connecting to audio equipment with a built in DTS or Dolby Digital decoder (sold separately), you can playback sound recorded on your DVD video in Dolby Digital (AC-3) or DTS format to reproduce the effect of listening in a movie theater or concert hall." So this confirms my theory: The PS2 can pass Dolby Digital or DTS to a receiver, so DVDs can be viewed and heard in all their splendor, but it cannot do the decoding itself.

Edit 2: I stand corrected on the GT3 Dolby Surround issue. Apparently GT3 is coded for Dolby Surround, which means that by hooking the sound output, even just the red/white composite jacks, into a Dolby Surround-capable receiver, you can get 4 virtual channels of sound. Now it's off to bed. 'Night.

 

[Street Fighter]

4 virtual channels?
As in front-left, front-right, back-left, back-right?
I would like to hear an experience before I go invest in a sound system..

 

[cybrstuff]

Originally posted by Street Fighter
4 virtual channels?
As in front-left, front-right, back-left, back-right?
I would like to hear an experience before I go invest in a sound system..

Well, I should have been more specific. The way that Dolby Surround (aka Pro Logic) works is that it sort of "hides" extra data in a standard stereo (2 channel) signal. That way, if you just have 2 speakers, it sounds fine. However, if you happen to have it hooked up through a Dolby Surround decoder, it extracts the "hidden" data and creates a virtual center channel and a virtual surround channel, which can be either sent to one surround speaker or copied to 2. Just to clarify, the speakers receiving the virtual signal are real, so there are 4 speakers, but only 2 discrete channels. Here's a diagram:

[Front Left (Real)] [Center (Virtual)] [Front Right (Real)]





You




[Surround (Virtual)]

So it won't be like the four tires in a car, and generally the surround channels aren't as distinct as discrete channels (eg Dolby Digital: 6 real channels), but it still beats standard stereo. For more information, check out Dolby Labs. They have a lot of cool info on Dolby Pro Logic, Pro Logic II (cool stuff), and Dolby Digital.

 

[Street Fighter]

That's lame. They had 5.1 sound cards for computers years ago.
You can get one for like 50 bucks now. That's 16bit sound. They have 24bit 6.1 Audigy soundcards now.
But no.. PS2 has some crappy stereo sound card.
GT4 is gonna be so much harder because of this.
It will have ABS but the wheels will still lock.
How are you gonna know which tires are screeching?

 

[drifter115]

i have a 450 watt home theater system with 5 speakers and a sub hooked up to my PS2 sounds great...but not with 1 tire to a speaker but it still sounds awsome !

 

[Street Fighter]

It's not the quality of the sound I care about. Same with graphics.
It's all about logic and practicality.
Mind you 450w of sound would be pretty shwag.

 

[BAZZ]

lol here comes the watt guys.

Totally agree with you Street Fighter, it is VERY lame to not have it in.

Edit: And has anyone ever noticed how crappy the sound in the playstation is overall, when playing music CD`s and DVD`s?

 

[Div is back]

I have my ps2 hooked up on my 5.1 dolby surround system on my 52 inches RCA tv.

It sounds great!

 

[Solid Lifters]

That's odd, I get Dolby Digital 5.1 playback with my PS2, but then again, I have the DVD driver update (ver. 2.1). I also get DTS, which sounds louder, less compressed than the DD5.1.

GT3 has it's own surround sound built in, and I would say it's a cross between Pro Logic and DD5.1. Yes, GT4 will have this same "built in" surround sound feature. Sorry, no DTS.

 

[Street Fighter]

Not that it has any relevance to the thread, but Solid Lifters' avatar reminds me of this weightlifter who's ass like exploded when he tried forcing one of those huge weights. You seen that one SL?

This thread is done.

 

[Cptn. SP33D]

I wouldn't mind playing GT3 on my unlce's home theatre system. It puts most multiplexes to shame. Then again i think that's the benefit of being retired. Not only can you stay at home all day and play but you got the money to make sure that you do it in style

 

[cybrstuff]

Originally posted by Solid Lifters
That's odd, I get Dolby Digital 5.1 playback with my PS2, but then again, I have the DVD driver update (ver. 2.1). I also get DTS, which sounds louder, less compressed than the DD5.1.

GT3 has it's own surround sound built in, and I would say it's a cross between Pro Logic and DD5.1. Yes, GT4 will have this same "built in" surround sound feature. Sorry, no DTS.

Well, this goes back to what I said earlier. The reason you can get DD5.1 and DTS is that it is ported directly from the DVD to the fiber optic port for decoding by an external receiver. In actuality though, GT3's surround sound is not a "cross" between Pro Logic and DD5.1. It is pure, unadulterated Pro Logic. The only thing "Digital" about it is the fact that the PS2 passes the (analog) Pro Logic signal through a PCM analog-to-digital encoder so that it can be sent through the fiber optic cable.

 

[Solid Lifters]

Originally posted by cybrstuff
Well, this goes back to what I said earlier. The reason you can get DD5.1 and DTS is that it is ported directly from the DVD to the fiber optic port for decoding by an external receiver.

And I agreed, affirming what you said, earlier.

In actuality though, GT3's surround sound is not a "cross" between Pro Logic and DD5.1. It is pure, unadulterated Pro Logic. The only thing "Digital" about it is the fact that the PS2 passes the (analog) Pro Logic signal through a PCM analog-to-digital encoder so that it can be sent through the fiber optic cable.

I said a "cross" between Pro Logic and DD5.1 only as fas as the sound quality is concerned. I have various sources of Pro Logic connected to my receiver, both with digital and analog connections, and the GT3's sound quality is much better than these other Pro Logic sources, but no where as near as great as DD5.1. Maybe that PCM encoder makes things sound fabo. 👍

 

[mgfryder]

450 watt home theater system

Try 700 Watts

 

[TrUeNo_oF_AkInA]

i got a costume suround sound. i made it myself cause im not rich and all. but you can still hear the surround. i like using the vtec cars and letting their engines roar to redline. also speakers at full blast.