Suspect in a rape case.

[kikie]

Yesterday morning I got a telephone call from the locale police. This woman asked me if it was possible for me to come to the police station to answer some questions. They were doing some research and I was able to help them out.

I knew immediatley that there was something wrong. So I went to the police station at around 10 am, yesterday. Once I got there, I met a friend of mine, whom became a police officier. I told him that I was expected. He went back in and told me to wait in the hall. He talked to his colleagues while I was waiting. The fact that it took several minutes for him to tell the other police officers that I arrived aroused my suspicion that it was serious business, even more. When he came back to tell me that they are ready for me, he tried to act as normal as possible but still I felt something was wrong. It's very odd how, is some cases, you can actually feelwhat another person is feeling at that moment.

An officer of the criminal investigation department took me into a seperate room where he started questioning me. He asked my ID card. Tried to start the computer and log on which took some time. In the mean time I was sitting there wondering what the heck was going on.

After a while he came back (he left the room to see if he could fix the problem with the computer) and finally he told me what the purpose of this interrogation was. He started by saying that I was called to the police station because my name was linked (through a tip) to a rape case.
When heard that, it was like being hit with a hammer in the face, like being told that you have only a few weeks to live etc... .
You can't imagine what it does to you if you're not in a situation like that.

I asked him if I was a suspect and he said; "no, you're not, you're a source of information in this rape case".

He asked a lot of questions about my were abouts at a certain time, when I went to bed, if I ate something ect... . The only alibi that I have is my father and that is clearly not good enough in the eyes of the law. So he asked if I was willing to give them DNA voluntarily. I, immediately said "yes absolutely, what ever you need". After a while, another investigator came in the room to take my pictures. This investigator is a good friend of mine. We went to the same high school and we have mutual friends. He explained everything to me. The case wasn't going anywere and the police asked the media to help out.

It's with this information that was given on television and newspapers and God knows what else, that someone who probably know me, gave my name to the police as a possible "offender".

After a while, another good acquaintance (yes I know a lot of police officers in person) of mine came into the room to take DNA. We went through the procedure and I had to sign a lot of paperwork. I had to open the two packages containing the two sticks to collect DNA from my inner cheeck.

While this is happening, we talked (he talked and I listened ) and he said that he knows that I have nothing to with this rape but he has to do his job. My other friend said the same thing. There have been at least 50 other people before me whom went through the same ordeal. It's an ordeal for sure. Don't come here and say that a thing like that wouldn't bother you the least because if you're a normal person and not some kind of psychopath, you will get effected on an emotional base.

The problem I'm still struggling with today is that there is a person whom gave my name to the police. A person whom thinks that I'm capable of such a horrible thing.

If there is a person who knows the effects on somebodies life after an emotional abuse, than it's definitely me.

I have been thinking to file a complaint against this person. He/she has to answer for what he/she has done to me. One can never know if it is done out of a sense of duty or out of vengance.

I can't get rid of the thought/feeling that it's the latter.

 

[marchi]

Mate, its probably somebody working at a bar or shop that knows you're a regular and thus, put your name down along with the 50 other people's if not more. It's probably more to do with the police probing then anything and if the case is getting no where, they need to hurry up and do something about it if they're still out there.

Put it this way, if you have nothing to worry about, then don't worry.

 

[wfooshee]

I don't know where you are, so is this in the US? Lawyer up. Immediately. Always. Even if not being arrested. They don't have the right to search people just because their name's on a list. If they told you weren't a suspect, they don't need your DNA. Asking for your DNA is a search, protected by the 4th amendment. It doesn't matter that it was presented to you as a way to rule you out, or "just routine," whatever. It's a search, and they got you to tell them it was OK. They were fishing and a lawyer would have had you home in ten minutes. You don't have to be arrested to lawyer up, only subjected to questioning.

 

[Blitz187]

Hmmmmm... I think taking the person to court is a little bit exaggerated... I do believe you have every right to ask that person, if you know who they are, why on earth they named you or for what reasons. I think if you learn the other side of the story you will get peace of mind....

In the meantime dont beat yourself up over it... it can happen to anyone and as long as YOU know you didnt do it, youre in the clear anyway.

 

[Bram Turismo]

I don't know where you are, so is this in the US?

Kikkie lives in Belgium. I'm suspecting he got questioned by this man:

I suspect only Kikkie to get this one though

Anyway, Kikkie, maat, sorry you got involved in such a mess.

 

[daan]

Or this man...

 

[Bram Turismo]

He's British though

 

[Anghammarad]

He's British though

Hence his very british name.

 

[Touring Mars]

There is no point in trying to second-guess the reason how your name came to be mentioned in connection with this case. For all you know, your name may have been mentioned as a matter of routine questioning alongside many other names. That your name has been passed to the police at all doesn't mean that there is someone out there with a grudge against you - and thinking that way won't do you any good at all.

I was once tested in the same way as you have been, because there were two related incidents, one near my home in Edinburgh, and one near my residence in Glasgow. AFAIK, no-one passed my name to the police - they just left a note at my residence in Glasgow asking me to come to the nearest police station exactly like you have been. I was "linked" to the case simply because I co-habited between Edinburgh and Glasgow. I gave a DNA sample and never heard anything more about the case. By agreeing to submit to the DNA test voluntarily, you have done everything you need to do, and shouldn't be worrying about how you came to be asked to give a sample. Don't take it personally - it happens.

 

[Bram Turismo]

Hence his very british name.

You do know I was talking about the actor and not the character, right?

 

[kikie]

Put it this way, if you have nothing to worry about, then don't worry.

I can't, not just yet. I want this person to justify to me what he/she did.

Hmmmmm... I think taking the person to court is a little bit exaggerated...

Mmm, not really because this is probably the only way to get the identity of this person.

I do believe you have every right to ask that person, if you know who they are, why on earth they named you or for what reasons. I think if you learn the other side of the story you will get peace of mind....

Exactly. I'm glad you mentioned this.

In the meantime dont beat yourself up over it... it can happen to anyone and as long as YOU know you didnt do it, youre in the clear anyway.

The only thing that bothers me is the person whom gave my name to the police. I want to look this person in the eyes and find out what his/her motives are to give my name to the police. Legal action is the only way to find out who this person is, if possible.

Kikkie lives in Belgium. I'm suspecting he got questioned by this man:





I suspect only Kikkie to get this one though

Anyway, Kikkie, maat, sorry you got involved in such a mess.

Thanks Bram


I got a call from my friend, the police officer, one hour ago to see how I was doing. He explained a lot of things, I already knew this but it's still nice to see that he cares and I told him that I want this person. It got quiet on the other side of the line meaning that he doesn't agree but he understands and he didn't even bother to talk me out of it. I've known him for a long time. He would be the first in line to talk me out of this idea but he didn't.
I also said that I don't have any problems with the fact that I was interrogated, that they took my DNA. As a matter of fact, it was an experience. They were merely doing their job.

It's just the idea that there's is someone out there that gave my name and thinks that I'm capable of raping an innocent girl. I'm not!
No-one points a finger at me when I'm innocent and gets away with it, no-one.

I've been abused, psychologically, for years and years when I was growing up. No more!

 

[exigeracer]

First of all, don't post this on here. If you have a thought that it is the latter situation, talking about it publicly is not wise, both from a legal standpoint as well as personal. If someone is trying to do you harm and fear, don't show them that they succeeded.

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Have you ever been taken in for anything else? Would the police have any reason to have any prior info or a photo of you on their database? Even if you already filed a police report or complaint previously, they have some basic information about you.

Don't actually answer these questions on here, but there's a good chance they got a vague description of the suspect and just hauled in everyone they had info on whom fit some of that description. I wouldn't be frightened.

 

[kikie]

There is no point in trying to second-guess the reason how your name came to be mentioned in connection with this case. For all you know, your name may have been mentioned as a matter of routine questioning alongside many other names. That your name has been passed to the police at all doesn't mean that there is someone out there with a grudge against you - and thinking that way won't do you any good at all.

I was once tested in the same way as you have been, because there were two related incidents, one near my home in Edinburgh, and one near my residence in Glasgow. AFAIK, no-one passed my name to the police - they just left a note at my residence in Glasgow asking me to come to the nearest police station exactly like you have been. I was "linked" to the case simply because I co-habited between Edinburgh and Glasgow. I gave a DNA sample and never heard anything more about the case. By agreeing to submit to the DNA test voluntarily, you have done everything you need to do, and shouldn't be worrying about how you came to be asked to give a sample. Don't take it personally - it happens.

No, the police said that my name was mentioned by someone whom saw or read about this case. It was a tip because I met the description, which was giving on tv/newpaper etc... .

On the other hand, maybe I'm just trying to blow off steam, and nothing will happen and I'll let it go eventually. I'm pissed right now that there could be someone out there whom did this to me.

I don't know anymore. Maybe this bad feeling goes away. But at the moment I want to know who this person is and why!

 

[kikie]

First of all, don't post this on here. If you have a thought that it is the latter situation, talking about it publicly is not wise, both from a legal standpoint as well as personal. If someone is trying to do you harm and fear, don't show them that they succeeded.

I thought about that for the past two days. Should I or should I not make a thread. I know it's not wise from a personal standpoint, you don't have to tell me that. But there is no legal problem. I just wanted to get it out of my system. I don't have anyone to talk to about this, not even my father.

I wouldn't be frightened.

I'm not, I'm pissed, angry etc... . Even the police said that they understand my frustration towards this person. He also said that he would feel the same.

 

[Vince_Fiero]

Kikie,

For Belgium you are already ahead with having personal connections with the force that know you. Personal relationships help but indeed they need to do their job correctly.

I agree that this is not at all pleasant, my job is hearing people out 👎 or preparing them for interviews and hardly ever people are comfortable with this. (I'm not in the police).

In my opinion collaboration shows that you have nothing to hide, so indeed you are just a source of information to find a real suspect.

Do not follow the US way, justice does work differently there.
All this said, collaboration means short, correct and to the point answers, no stories, no confusion. Always think and then talk, take you time, do not feel the need to speak, when there is silence it just means the other people are thinking.

Sadly a lot of us will end up in situations where we are asked to help and feel uncomfortable about it . It is just a moment we need to pass.

Keep your head clear on the facts, you were asked since they want to find a criminal and thought you could help, nothing more, nothing personal. The rest seems like a formality to assure the correct progress and be able to use it in court later.

Most of all keep smiling!

 

[Duke]

Noone points a finger at me when I'm innocent and gets away with it, noone.

This is the point where this thread stops being the story of a very unfortunate occurrence that happened to you, and starts becoming a problem to yourself and others.

I sympathize with your situation, but you need to understand that threats of retribution are not something that is healthy for you, nor will they be acceptable here.

 

[GT3mich]

Do not follow the US way, justice does work differently there.

Yeah, we're presumed innocent from the beginning. We don't have to prove our innocence. My nephew works for the Michigan State police and he said the worst thing people do is talk. His best advice was say nothing until a lawyer is present even if you did nothing wrong. The police have to get evidence to prove you're guilty and turn it over to the DA. Good luck. Any chance you can get all of the DNA/photos back or are you now in the System? That would make me mad more than anything though I have nothing to hide.

 

[Gil]

I have seen some strange situations re: "justice".
In my youth I was once asked to be in a line-up.
The police needed 4 more black guys to make up a full line up. So they called the college I went to and requested help. One of the Deans grabbed the first 4 black guys he ran across and sent us over.
The "suspect" was as different from the 4 of us as night is from day.
Yes, we were all black, but the four of us volunteers were obviously from the local college, from our haircuts, to our manner of dress.

Oh, and to make things totally bizarre, the "witness" was brought into the room with us to look at all of us. No one way glass, no TV screen to protect the identity of the witness. He was brought in amongst us and asked if he recognized any of us.

I've also had one of my sons accused of "sexual harassment". It was a harrowing experience. And the girl that did the accusing has accused a number of other boys of the same thing. I don't know if she does it as a way to get attention, or as revenge for getting snubbed. But, I feel for you Kikie.

I would give you the same advice as you've been given. Keep it under your hat, don't do anything stupid that will cause you to be implicated of anything else.

I have to agree, that the police probably asked for a list of who was present at the event, that led to the rape, and you were one of the people that got named. Not because you are thought to be capable of rape, but you are male, and were at the function.
Until my son was falsely accused, I used to think that justice was blind and fair. I still do, to a point.
But do nothing that will get you looked at any harder.
If you confront the person that named you, it gets the cop brain thinking "Why did he confront this person, if he had nothing to do with the rape?"
So, even though your feelings are hurt, my advice is to SIUDO.
(Suck it up, Drive on).

 

[kikie]

This is the point where this thread stops being the story of a very unfortunate occurrence that happened to you, and starts becoming a problem to yourself and others.

I sympathize with your situation, but you need to understand that threats of retribution are not something that is healthy for you, nor will they be acceptable here.

This person brought this so called problem on him/herself by giving my name to the police. He/she started this whole mess. I'm the victim of an unfortunate situation, not the other way around.

And what about the retribution towards me? I'm almost 100% sure that it is somebody with a grudge against me. And this is not a fabrication of my mind (don't know if this is the right expression)

Duke, you need to read my previous post again. I'm not threatning that person. I said that I want to find out whom this person is and this is only possible by filing a complaint and hopefully I will get the information through legal ways. I want to see this person in eye and see what he/she has got to say. Nothing more, nothing less. No threats are made, just a personal confrontation. => https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showpost.php?p=3732400&postcount=11

And I don't understand what the problem is with these so called threats towards GTP. Did I threat someone here on GTP? No, I didn't. I don't want to harm this person. I just want to know why in Gods name he/she did what he/she did. I don't even want an apology.

Noun

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threat

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threat (plural threats)

1. an expression of intent to injure or punish another.
2. an indication of imminent danger.
3. a person or object that is regarded as a danger; a menace.

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Duke, I'm sure that you're an upright guy and as an administrator you have to see that this forum is a nice place for people to log on. But with all due respect, you're wrong when it comes to me making threats, which I didn't.

I never said that I'm going to harm this person. I only said that I want to know the identity of this person and filing a complaint and going to court is a honest and legal way to achieve this. And after that, if it all comes to that, I want to be confronted with this person and see what he/she has to say for him/herself. That's all. Let this person know that he/she's totally and utterly wrong about me.

If the mods think that it's best that this thread gets closed, by all means, close it. But I won't do it myself.


EDIT:

I've also had one of my sons accused of "sexual harassment". It was a harrowing experience.

That's a very accurate description.

I would give you the same advice as you've been given. Keep it under your hat, don't do anything stupid that will cause you to be implicated of anything else.So, even though your feelings are hurt, my advice is to SIUDO.
(Suck it up, Drive on).

That's probably what I should do but I can't, not now. The experience is still too fresh.

I have to agree, that the police probably asked for a list of who was present at the event, that led to the rape, and you were one of the people that got named. Not because you are thought to be capable of rape, but you are male, and were at the function.

I don't get it. I told it before that I was named after someone saw a description of the suspect on television or in the newspaper. A so called "tip". I was at home when it happened. That's why I think it's someone with a grugde against me whom want to make me suffer.


You see, the rape occured at New Year's Eve. I know this because the police asked where I was at that time. I was at home! My friend whom is in on the case told me that they weren't getting anywere with finding the offender, so the police asked to press to help out and air/write the offender's description. The police got many tips and one of these tips was my name. Say what you want but it's clear that I was "tipped" by someone who knows me.

 

[Anghammarad]

You do know I was talking about the actor and not the character, right?

I guessed as much but left the door wide open. Can you blame me?

 

[kikie]

Or this man...

He's British though

Hence his very british name.

Maybe I ought to give him a call and see if he can help me.
BTW it's my favourite detective show. He's a brilliant actor.

 

[Duke]

And I don't understand what the problem is with these so calles threats towards GTP. Did I threat someone here on GTP? No, I didn't. I don't want to harm this person.

I don't think you're threatening anyone here on GTP, or GTP itself. But you did say this:

Noone points a finger at me when I'm innocent and gets away with it, noone.

That is easily taken as a threat, even if you don't want to think so. I understand your anger at this situation, and it is bad that you've been placed in it. But the way out is to keep calm and play by the rules, NOT to be angry and demand to know who your accuser is.

My friend whom is in on the case told me that they weren't getting anywere with finding the offender, so the police asked to press to help out and air/write the offender's description. The police got many tips and one of these tips was my name. Say what you want but it's clear that I was "tipped" by someone who knows me.

Or just someone who knows your name and what you look like.

That's exactly what these kinds of sweeps are designed to do: get a large pool of people who meet the general physical description, and see if any leads shake out. I think you are making a huge assumption that this was done deliberately to cause you trouble, and reacting as if that must be the truth. For all you know it could have been the clerk at your local coffee shop who saw the picture, thought it looked like a customer, and then read your name off your credit card next time you came in.

Or some similar story. I'm just offering that as an example that does not require a personal vendetta against you.

 

[kikie]

You know what, I don't know if you all are going to buy this but the fact that I had the change to start this thread and get it off my chest, helps. Maybe, just maybe if I let it be and it (this feeling I have) wears out, I'm not even remotely interested in knowing who he or she is.

I got some good advice here and maybe I should listen before I make it harder on myself, although it won't be easy to let it go, not right now anyway.

It's always easy for other people to give advice and say this and that if you're not in my situation. The fact remains, it's a horrible experience that I went through. I will never forget (unless I get amnesia or become demented) the first words of the interrogator.

"I have to ask you some questions. You're named in a rape case! It was like getting hit in the face with hammer. The emotions that you feel at that moment are incredible. Not even a very severe depression feels that bad (I know what I'm talking about).
I thought that I was called for internet things because my friend assigned to the case investigates internet fraude/crimes as well.


oh well, C'est la vie, n'est-ce pas?

 

[Omnis]

I would freak out if someone accused me of anything. Good luck, Kikkie.

 

[kikie]

I would freak out if someone accused me of anything. Good luck, Kikkie.

I freaked out!

Thanks and you know what, I don't know why but that means a lot coming from you. Really!

 

[Omnis]

I freaked out!

Haha, I already came to the conclusion.

Thanks and you know what, I don't know why but that means a lot coming from you. Really!

Really? Well, all I can say is keep your dignity. None of us are especially virtuous, but we have strength and honor from being gentle. You have nothing to prove.

 

[Bram Turismo]

oh well, C'est la vie, n'est-ce pas?

Oui, c'est vrais.

 

[Legendary]

Just the other day I was sitting at the train station and some police sweeped past me twice in their car and pulled up beside me. Im 14, Im not big and I dont do anything wrong. They played the game of 100 question and having never been questioned or pulled over by police before I was crapping myself. My mum wasnt impressed when I told her, 'Talking to a perfectly fine boy by himself waiting for his friend in the School Holidays! You should have given them my number so they could talk to me, thats unbelieveable! ". I answered and did everything they said and they left me alone after a while, I would assume they ran my name through the database to see if I get any links to something.

You could assume the same, they just check your name and DNA for links and if nothing comes up your fine. The person who put your name in as said above might have just done the same to 50 other people if they worked behind a counter somewhere, they did their part just as you did yours and now you have nothing to worry about. Stop stressing Kikie, court costs alot anyway 👍.

 

[Live_Fr0m_NY]

Maybe somebody you know did this as some sort of a sick joke? or maybe someone who does not like you for whatever reason did this to be an A******? that could be a possibility... People are generally not decent.

 

[Northstar]

Chances are it was just someone responding to seeing the report on TV. Personally if I saw a report and a description, than someone who even looks somewhat similar chances are I would call.