GT5 had limp suspentions heck GT5 pro had more active suspentions then GT5. Nothing about tuning sus in GT5 was correct. With a limp suspention its all click based tuning and trying to fit theories with result, reminds me of the TV show antient aliens, where facts are distorted to support conclusions. comparisons should be shyed away from. PD fixed much with GT6 but still need to work on tire dynamics quite a bit. We have no telem because it would reveal how little is factorred into the sim correctly. No inside mid outside tire temps, no air pressure adj, no tire/sidewall flex, horendous relationship with tire temp and grip, no brake temp no tread wear patterns. With everything revolving around the Tire/Track relationship you would think its a priority. I am glad the Nurb runs Kaz did have implimented better wheel angle dynamics even though the poor tyre dynamics still are a bit frustrating to still be around. More on topic First step is setting up the damps for the spring rate, if you dont do that FIRST your starting from a out of wack point and tracking results correctly is more confusing then conclusive. A SR very high on the slider with low low damp settings is an improper set up and a sighn of click based tuning over actually knowing and understang whats going on.