You wanna compare yourself to those guys? Go ahead... But than I wonder why people call me the 'elitist', considering I know exactly what level of drifting I'm on...
I don't think Eddy, nor the vast majority of us here on GTP,
compare ourselves to the guys in that vid. That said, there is absolutely nothing wrong with any or all of us
aspiring to be like those guys...and that goes for both drifting in real life and in GT5. Aspiring to be elite does not make a person elitist.
Besides, this is ONE corner, a corner they have practiced so often that they could probably tell you where every single pebble lies... So can we, in GT5. But they won't link whole Ebisu with that distance between their cars.
I think you're being quite short sited and narrow minded here.
Let's think of the biggest limiting factor Team BURST, along with other elite level drifters, face. $$$ Money $$$. The biggest problem they face is keeping those cars running. I can't imagine how often they go through major components on those cars, and what the cost of keeping those things running with the punishment they go through is. I also imagine that the man-hours of maintenance on them is extremely high...and these guys don't have a massive crew of engineers behind them, they do most of the wrench spinning themselves.
The point I am getting at is this - if a group of drifters like BURST were given the resources of, oh lets say, Michael Schumacher at Ferrari, I truly believe that their drifting would be on a level that we can't really imagine today. If these guys had infinitely deep pockets, and could drift with no regard for the longevity of their car (because they have a truck full of spare cars sitting beside the track waiting their turn), l think they could quite easily work towards linking all of Ebisu with a 5+ car train, inches from each other's doors at all times, along with many other unimaginable feets.
With GT5, we have that ability to throw the money and repair-time aspects out the window!!! Don't get me wrong, there are huge merits to the points you are making. Multiple cars drifting a section or track with perfectly matched angles and synchronized transitions (even if the proximity is not as absolutely close as possible) is truly a thing of beauty. I went through a phase in my drifting where all I wanted to focus on as a chaser was getting as close as possible. I'm now trying to take a more balanced, well rounded, approach to chasing. I have found that backing off just a little bit more at the right times makes a huge difference in overall consistency.
But would you not agree, that under absolutely ideal circumstances, the perfect tandem or train would combine all three elements...perfectly matched angle, perfectly synchronized transitions, along with the tightest proximity possible? At least that's my ideal tandem/train.
The only way to aspire that level perfection is to try...and practice practice practice...and crash...lots of crashing
Tandem drifting looks great when it is close, so I get that, but door to door, much like reverse entries, and refusal to use the ebrake, falls under the category of impractical amongst the average drifters' skillset..I think this love for door to door drifting is a consequence of video game drifting; no consequences, that is a tap from a tandem partner on GT5 means nothing, that same "tap" in real life equals hours of bodywork and possible need to re-align the vehicle..
Along with these door to door pics i'd like to see some pics during the transition, or else they come off as cheaply as some of the "wall tap" pics, you know the ones where about 90% would be showing a devestating collision were the picture taken a fraction of a second later.
I can only speak for myself in regard to you comments about people "faking" the action in photos, but with GT5, I take both approaches to photographing drifting. It depends the objective of a certain set of pics which approach I take.
If I am covering a drifting event, such as Night Slide, Matsuri, etc., I always try my best to make the pictures as authentic as possible...this applies to both door-to-door, and wall-taps.
If the aim of my photography is more artistic in nature, I may sometimes "fake" the action in the photo for overall sake of the photo....but I only resort to this after giving a genuine effort to capture the action legitimately.
But like I said, I can only speak for myself
Edit: Oops, got a little carried away there, and forgot the whole reason I was going to post haha.
This, in a tandem, is completely wrong. In 2 way tandems, it's possible to correct and make it fit again, but I see people doing this stuff with cars behind them...
Always remember, try to stay on the line of the leader. Where his rear tires are, so should yours be. If you crawl inside to much, people behind you will get in trouble. And it looks horrific.
I know exactly the point you are getting at with this photo, and agree it looks quite bad. When I am chasing, I find that this happens to me more often than I would like it to (ideally never).
What are peoples's opinions as to what are the leading causes of the chase car ending up in this position. What are things that can be done, or watched for, to prevent this from happening? And what can be done to help correct the situation, and possibly save the tandem and/or train?
