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I will never complain about what I wish the game had more of tracks, cars etc.

Dear God after renting and playing NFS Shift 2 I take for granted the quality that the GT Series is, nothing out there right now can touch GT5 in graphics, car modeling and physics period.

If you are feeling bored and think GT5 is lacking rent and play any of those other so called "racing sims" and if you know anything about what a real driving simulator is you will run back to GT5, we should all be thankful that we have GT to play.
 
And we are thankful we have it to play, it's just we all know how much better it "could" have been, and what it's missing to make the experience 10.0 instead of 8.0.
 
I think that GT5 has one of the best physics and graphical engines for games on console.

It's not perfect and racing sims on PC are more realistic but you can't really complain. I think that this is a good driving game.
 
Maybe you were expecting too much from gt5. This guy is only wanting to praise PD for its accomplishments to beat competitive titles.
 
I hold out hope for a course pack for DLC. You consider they have a project to be unveiled soon for release in the upcoming year or next then you can assume any course work being done there can easily be ported to GT5. Whatever the project, it shares most of the underlying engine code and courses designed for one likely transfer easily to GT5 so if any new courses are in development for that title, it's likely we could see them released as DLC or even a free Spec II update.
 
Yeah GT5 is amazing game but there is still lot of room for improvement. Also comparing with other racing game is not the best thing, some games are good at some areas over the others. But overall content, quality of GT5 is not comparable and it is not just with other racing games but any other video game IMO.
 
I will never complain about what I wish the game had more of tracks, cars etc.

Dear God after renting and playing NFS Shift 2 I take for granted the quality that the GT Series is, nothing out there right now can touch GT5 in graphics, car modeling and physics period.

If you are feeling bored and think GT5 is lacking rent and play any of those other so called "racing sims" and if you know anything about what a real driving simulator is you will run back to GT5, we should all be thankful that we have GT to play.

I still have this sitting in my Gamefly Q....because I want to see it for myself.

And we are thankful we have it to play, it's just we all know how much better it "could" have been, and what it's missing to make the experience 10.0 instead of 8.0.

👍👍
 
GT5 has decent driving physics and graphics (premium cars only). The game part (collecting cars and tuning) is kind of bad. Overall, it still manages to be fun though.
 
If GT5 had a LOT more visual customisation and a car livery design feature I would have no need AT ALL to buy any other racing game.

As it stands now I'm VERY tempted to buy Shift 2, even though I know the physics are gonna fail I cant help but think my PC would generate some absolutely drop dead gorgeous and pretty much UNIQUE looking cars.

Oh the temptation. *Gets an old NFS out*


Edit: Don't get me wrong I have played GT5 more than any other game in my life, need I say more on how much I like it ?
 
NFS Shift 2 car modeling are sub par and I didn't get any satisfaction from customizing them, there cars here and there that are good but that's it. It is just a little better than all the other NFS titles IMO.
 
PC Version? Everything that is cross platform is generally better on PC due to having no console power limitations.
 
Oh boy. Another one of these.

Dear God after renting and playing NFS Shift 2 I take for granted the quality that the GT Series is, nothing out there right now can touch GT5 in graphics, car modeling and physics period.
Oh come on. At least attempt to be impartial about it.
 
Oh boy. Another one of these.


Oh come on. At least attempt to be impartial about it.


There isn't any racing game on the PS3 that can compete with GT5, I don't have a problem giving props to another game if it is good but there aren't any on the PS3 right now that can challenge GT5.
 
There isn't any racing game on the PS3 that can compete with GT5, I don't have a problem giving props to another game if it is good but there aren't any on the PS3 right now that can challenge GT5.

Supercar Challenge, Ferrari Challenge, F1: Championship Edition, F1 2010, Shift 2 (simulates things GT5 does not) the original Shift (simulates things GT5 does not)...
 
There isn't any racing game on the PS3 that can compete with GT5, I don't have a problem giving props to another game if it is good but there aren't any on the PS3 right now that can challenge GT5.
Except:
  • You didn't mention "On the PS3" (which is fairly irrelevant, for reasons posted above).
  • You mentioned graphics, of which GT5's aren't really that impressive when everything is taken into consideration. Even when only dealing with console games.
 
GT5's graphics are amazing.

Its the GT4 and GTPSP Graphics that got bundled in with GT5 which I hate.

The part of GT5 that is new, is amazing graphics wise.
 
Oh boy. Another one of these.


Oh come on. At least attempt to be impartial about it.


What are you on about? :confused:

Except:
  • You didn't mention "On the PS3" (which is fairly irrelevant, for reasons posted above).
  • You mentioned graphics, of which GT5's aren't really that impressive when everything is taken into consideration. Even when only dealing with console games.

Well everyone have a opinion. Let not go into PC sims are best GT is good for consoles and things like these :odd:
 
Supercar Challenge, Ferrari Challenge, F1: Championship Edition, F1 2010, Shift 2 (simulates things GT5 does not) the original Shift (simulates things GT5 does not)...


Those games are "Ok" but are not the best even if they offer things GT5 doesn't they still fail because the overall execution of them just leaves a lot to be desired. if you think GT5 graphics are not that great then I don't know what to tell you :indiff: but GT5 are the best at this point on any console period like it or not.
 
GT5's graphics are amazing.
Unless you are driving in the wet. Or snow. Or dirt. Or spin your tires. Or have more than 3 cars on screen. Or are driving a Standard car. Or are driving on certain tracks (Monza, SSR7, SSR5, etc.). Or, occasionally, just because.

Well everyone have a opinion.
Framerate, screen tearing, texture flicker, alpha blending and poly count are not things that are a matter of opinion. And, in any case, the OP has made it very clear that he considers GT5 to be the best looking game objectively. So I've responded as such.
 
It runs at higher res, more detailed car, more numbers of cars and still manages more fps in racing games. So I do not see any problem
 
Those games are "Ok" but are not the best even if they offer things GT5 doesn't they still fail because the overall execution of them just leaves a lot to be desired. if you think GT5 graphics are not that great then I don't know what to tell you :indiff: but GT5 are the best at this point on any console period like it or not.

Clearly visuals make or break a game with the folks these days. Doesn't change the fact that compared to GT2, 3, or 4 a lot of the game is either lacking, severely crippled, or just completely non-existent. I seem to remember severe artifacts on Route 7, you know what that's a result of? Video memory. What does that have to do with anything? Put 2 and 2 together.
 
I will never complain about what I wish the game had more of tracks, cars etc.

Dear God after renting and playing NFS Shift 2 I take for granted the quality that the GT Series is, nothing out there right now can touch GT5 in graphics, car modeling and physics period.

If you are feeling bored and think GT5 is lacking rent and play any of those other so called "racing sims" and if you know anything about what a real driving simulator is you will run back to GT5, we should all be thankful that we have GT to play.

You haven't played any other games, obviously.

This is evidenced in that you praised GT5's graphics even though only part of GT5's graphics are really great and much of it is sub-par to just plain terrible. You referenced Shift, and while I dislike the feel of the driving in Shift it is generally a better-looking game than GT5. Sure, certain bits of GT5 look amazing, but those things represent a minority of GT5.

The feel of the driving is the only aspect of GT5 that actually outperforms other racing games out there. Technically the GT5 car list is bigger, but if you exclude all the last-gen models and focus on just the actual GT5 models, games like FM3 have roughly twice as many cars. GT5's Premium cars aren't all that terrible amazing, either. While they do look great, there isn't any meaningful difference between them and FM3's cars.

As for feeling bored and renting one of the other games, we have a bit of a problem. Most of us are done or pretty much done with GT5 already. We pretty much have to play something else sooner or later. 99% of GT5 players simply aren't going to be content repeating the same stuff over and over again for years in GT5. Thank God there's a rival developer that actually produces completely new (versus partially new with a bunch of recycled car and track models) game every couple years.

I was going to plug in a leaked FM4 video here but it was removed from YouTube since I watched it last night. It's adding even more content on top of the already superior amount of content available in FM3, and improvements like sixteen cars on track. Granted, GT5 has been boasting sixteen cars, but really there's very, very few events that actually see sixteen, so realistically GT5 is normally looking at twelve cars at once. FM3 generally edges out GT5 in features (five people are playing GT5 in 3D, so...), especially when it comes to online like with the amazing Storefront feature, but FM4 is adding even more.

It's really time for PD to start stepping up their game. Giving me nice driving physics but then mating that with what is effectively pretty much a PS2 game isn't going to keep Gran Turismo as synonymous with "console racing sim".

Have you recently been promoted to a higher rank in the Gran Turismo Fanboy Defense League? If not, you're due for a promotion.

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Those games are "Ok" but are not the best even if they offer things GT5 doesn't they still fail because the overall execution of them just leaves a lot to be desired. if you think GT5 graphics are not that great then I don't know what to tell you :indiff: but GT5 are the best at this point on any console period like it or not.

Really?

I took this with GT5's in-game photo mode. It has not been altered in any way.
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Tell me that's the most amazing-looking game on current hardware. Tell me that with a straight face.

Gran Turismo 5 - Honda S2000 Type V '03 at Laguna Seca:
gt501a.jpg


Forza Motorsport 3 - 2003 Honda S2000 at Laguna Seca:
fm301.jpg


Gran Turismo 5 - Mazda RX-7 Type RS (FD) '00 at Laguna Seca:
gt502a.jpg


Forza Motorsport 3 - 1997 Mazda RX-7:
fm302.jpg


Look those over and tell me, without bursting out laughing, that the GT5 shots look better. Go ahead and try it.
 
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Please don't turn this into another Forza/GT5 picture slap fight.




It runs at higher res,
A slightly higher resolution.

more detailed car,
Which make up 1/5th of the roster in the game. The rest of which looking exactly like they did 7 years ago, or in some well-documented cases, even worse.

more numbers of cars
Quantity of cars in the game means absolutely nothing for this discussion.

and still manages more fps in racing games.
Being pegged at 60FPS but barely ever staying there, and suffering from constant screen tearing as a result, is really no better than simply locking it at 30. Which is irrelevant, because many other racing games on the PS360 run at 60FPS anyways.
Other racing games also tend to not have PS1-quality alpha blending, or contain shadows that turn to static fuzz when the car is more than 10 feet away from you. Or have textures randomly disappear when you get near them.
 
You haven't played any other games, obviously.

This is evidenced in that you praised GT5's graphics even though only part of GT5's graphics are really great and much of it is sub-par to just plain terrible. You referenced Shift, and while I dislike the feel of the driving in Shift it is generally a better-looking game than GT5. Sure, certain bits of GT5 look amazing, but those things represent a minority of GT5.

The feel of the driving is the only aspect of GT5 that actually outperforms other racing games out there. Technically the GT5 car list is bigger, but if you exclude all the last-gen models and focus on just the actual GT5 models, games like FM3 have roughly twice as many cars. GT5's Premium cars aren't all that terrible amazing, either. While they do look great, there isn't any meaningful difference between them and FM3's cars.

As for feeling bored and renting one of the other games, we have a bit of a problem. Most of us are done or pretty much done with GT5 already. We pretty much have to play something else sooner or later. 99% of GT5 players simply aren't going to be content repeating the same stuff over and over again for years in GT5. Thank God there's a rival developer that actually produces completely new (versus partially new with a bunch of recycled car and track models) game every couple years.

I was going to plug in a leaked FM4 video here but it was removed from YouTube since I watched it last night. It's adding even more content on top of the already superior amount of content available in FM3, and improvements like sixteen cars on track. Granted, GT5 has been boasting sixteen cars, but really there's very, very few events that actually see sixteen, so realistically GT5 is normally looking at twelve cars at once. FM3 generally edges out GT5 in features (five people are playing GT5 in 3D, so...), especially when it comes to online like with the amazing Storefront feature, but FM4 is adding even more.

It's really time for PD to start stepping up their game. Giving me nice driving physics but then mating that with what is effectively pretty much a PS2 game isn't going to keep Gran Turismo as synonymous with "console racing sim".

Have you recently been promoted to a higher rank in the Gran Turismo Fanboy Defense League? If not, you're due for a promotion.


Oh man, to say NFS Shift 2 looks better than GT5 is ridiculous are you serious? Talk about total arcadish graphics and car modeling I don't know what the heck people are seeing in these other games. I have played other games and they are not on GT5 level, especially in graphics. Like I said if I played a game that was just as good or better I would not have a problem saying it.
 
Oh man, to say NFS Shift 2 looks better than GT5 is ridiculous are you serious? Talk about total arcadish graphics and car modeling I don't know what the heck people are seeing in these other games. I have played other games and they are not on GT5 level, especially in graphics. Like I said if I played a game that was just as good or better I would not have a problem saying it.

My head is really beginning to ache with people using 'arcade' as a form of argument. And, enlighten me, what in the hell are arcadish graphics and car modeling?
 
so true
 
I have played other games and they are not on GT5 level, especially in graphics.
You aren't actually reading anything in this thread, are you.
 
The feel of the driving is the only aspect of GT5 that actually outperforms other racing games out there.

Which happens to be the most important aspect of a driving game for anyone who enjoys driving in RL and VR.

Most of us are done or pretty much done with GT5 already. We pretty much have to play something else sooner or later. 99% of GT5 players simply aren't going to be content repeating the same stuff over and over again for years in GT5.

Wow. Who do you think you are speaking for 99% of GT5 players? Who is this 'we' you're talking of? Can you not differentiate between spouting your own opinion and attempting to speak for other people - of which you have no right to do so.

Look those over and tell me, without bursting out laughing, that the GT5 shots look better. Go ahead and try it.

So you compared some standard cars with cars from forza 3. What does that prove? Compare some premium cars to forza 3 and they look better. Doesn't say anything useful either way. Put some shots up of nurburgring in forza 3 and gt5. Compare those. Anyone can make up stupid arguments like that.

You're the one coming across sounding like a fanboy. Believe me.
 
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You haven't played any other games, obviously.

This is evidenced in that you praised GT5's graphics even though only part of GT5's graphics are really great and much of it is sub-par to just plain terrible. You referenced Shift, and while I dislike the feel of the driving in Shift it is generally a better-looking game than GT5. Sure, certain bits of GT5 look amazing, but those things represent a minority of GT5.

The feel of the driving is the only aspect of GT5 that actually outperforms other racing games out there. Technically the GT5 car list is bigger, but if you exclude all the last-gen models and focus on just the actual GT5 models, games like FM3 have roughly twice as many cars. GT5's Premium cars aren't all that terrible amazing, either. While they do look great, there isn't any meaningful difference between them and FM3's cars.

As for feeling bored and renting one of the other games, we have a bit of a problem. Most of us are done or pretty much done with GT5 already. We pretty much have to play something else sooner or later. 99% of GT5 players simply aren't going to be content repeating the same stuff over and over again for years in GT5. Thank God there's a rival developer that actually produces completely new (versus partially new with a bunch of recycled car and track models) game every couple years.

I was going to plug in a leaked FM4 video here but it was removed from YouTube since I watched it last night. It's adding even more content on top of the already superior amount of content available in FM3, and improvements like sixteen cars on track. Granted, GT5 has been boasting sixteen cars, but really there's very, very few events that actually see sixteen, so realistically GT5 is normally looking at twelve cars at once. FM3 generally edges out GT5 in features (five people are playing GT5 in 3D, so...), especially when it comes to online like with the amazing Storefront feature, but FM4 is adding even more.

It's really time for PD to start stepping up their game. Giving me nice driving physics but then mating that with what is effectively pretty much a PS2 game isn't going to keep Gran Turismo as synonymous with "console racing sim".

Have you recently been promoted to a higher rank in the Gran Turismo Fanboy Defense League? If not, you're due for a promotion.

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Really?

I took this with GT5's in-game photo mode. It has not been altered in any way.

Tell me that's the most amazing-looking game on current hardware. Tell me that with a straight face.

Gran Turismo 5 - Honda S2000 Type V '03 at Laguna Seca:


Forza Motorsport 3 - 2003 Honda S2000 at Laguna Seca:


Gran Turismo 5 - Mazda RX-7 Type RS (FD) '00 at Laguna Seca:


Forza Motorsport 3 - 1997 Mazda RX-7:

Look those over and tell me, without bursting out laughing, that the GT5 shots look better. Go ahead and try it.


Dude even Forza forums are saying GT5 has better graphics at this point, we will see when FM4 comes out if they can beat GT5. And yes GT5 Premium cars are better than FM3.
 
I will never complain about what I wish the game had more of tracks, cars etc.

Dear God after renting and playing NFS Shift 2 I take for granted the quality that the GT Series is, nothing out there right now can touch GT5 in graphics, car modeling and physics period.
to play.

I have to argue with you on that one.
 
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