The 20 tracks issue is really bugging me

The level of denial in this thread is unbelievable. I've NEVER seen anything like it.

For some of you KY could walk right up to you, slap you in the face and say in perfect English "I'm telling you right now, GT 5 will have 20+ courses. These courses will have variations, so when you add them all up you'll have about 70 tracks"

And you'd just rub your red and sore freshly slapped cheek, get this distant look in your eyes and say "I don't believe it, it just can't be true"

Unreal.
 
Simple SIM
The level of denial in this thread is unbelievable. I've NEVER seen anything like it.

For some of you KY could walk right up to you, slap you in the face and say in perfect English "I'm telling you right now, GT 5 will have 20+ courses. These courses will have variations, so when you add them all up you'll have about 70 tracks"

And you'd just rub your red and sore freshly slapped cheek, get this distant look in your eyes and say "I don't believe it, it just can't be true"

Unreal.
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How is that gonna work mate when there is gonna be 12 rallys for the wrc part of the game are you trying to tell us that that leaves only 8 other tracks for us to race on?
 
excuse me guys... but i start to think .. :nervous: bad :nervous:
if the meaning of "20 tracks with 60 variations"...

were .. (for example High Speed Ring)

HSR-NIGHT
HSR-RAIN
HSR-DUST
HSR-DAY

So its easy with 20 tracks have 70 variations ....:nervous::nervous::nervous:

I-R :nervous: :nervous:
 
I don't care if it "seems" real - I still think it's ridiculous to think that there would be only less than 30 unique tracks. But that does not mean I rule out the possibility - when we get the tracklist or the full game, and there will only be so many courses, I will get mad and you won't find me defending this aspect for a split second, no way.
 
Wow, talk about going crazy. Forza 3 is actually doing the same thing to reach the amount of tracks they have. What it means is 20 locations so you have a location and on that location you could have a variety of different tracks and that doesn't mean that it'll just be extensions of that same tracks but could take place on different places within that location. Would you trust PD a little?
 
It reads --20 Locations -- 70 tracks what is the confusion??
Japan--Motegi, Suzuka, Fuji, Grand Valley, High Speed Ring.
Germany--Nurburgring, Deep Forest,
France--Magny Cours, LeMans

This how I read the info, a lot of these "Locations" will have a rally stage or two as well.
Potentially some locations may only have one track eg; Belgium--Spa......(hopefully Aus--Bathurst):D
As you can see this follows the way that GT4 had it's managment of tracks, so I don't see it being a great deal different, as that worked well.
 
alba
Wow, talk about going crazy. Forza 3 is actually doing the same thing to reach the amount of tracks they have. What it means is 20 locations so you have a location and on that location you could have a variety of different tracks and that doesn't mean that it'll just be extensions of that same tracks but could take place on different places within that location. Would you trust PD a little?
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I'm hoping for that too (and I posted such suspicion waaay back in this thread). Just stated my position/opinion more clearly to make it clear and avoid Simple SIM's (among others) constant "it said so on the site!!!111oneeleven" replies ; ).
 
Maggot666PL
I don't care if it "seems" real - I still think it's ridiculous to think that there would be only less than 30 unique tracks. But that does not mean I rule out the possibility - when we get the tracklist or the full game, and there will only be so many courses, I will get mad and you won't find me defending this aspect for a split second, no way.
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+1232344809149 TRILIONS

whe have 5 in gt5p, seen: the ring, lemans, toscany, topgear test track, tsakuba, tokyo thers only 9more????

NO FREAKIN WAY DUDES !!!!
 
I have no idea what's accurate without a better translation, but my best guess is 20 photo mode locations similar to GT4 and 70 tracks. 20 tracks and 70 variations defiantly doesn't work since their is a mathematical relationship between 20 tracks and 70 variations, subtracting all the known tracks that have appeared in GT5P, demos, E3, Gamescon, etc., is about 12 to 13 tracks, leaving about 7 to 8 remaining tracks, subtract about 20 variations that leaves us with 8 remaining tracks divided into 50 remaining variation, that's 6.25 variations per remaining tracks. All through the GT series there has never been that many variations per tracks. :)
 
Simple SIM
The level of denial in this thread is unbelievable. I've NEVER seen anything like it.

For some of you KY could walk right up to you, slap you in the face and say in perfect English "I'm telling you right now, GT 5 will have 20+ courses. These courses will have variations, so when you add them all up you'll have about 70 tracks"

And you'd just rub your red and sore freshly slapped cheek, get this distant look in your eyes and say "I don't believe it, it just can't be true"

Unreal.
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You say this like it's a given fact, when in fact it's not. Just by looking at the TGS thread and what facts are confirmed, we see:

-There will be over 20 locations and 70 tracks
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Now, this may or may not be a correct translation and/or source but that doesn't matter. What matters is that everyone seems to be reporting different number for the amount of tracks, which in turns causes lots of confusion, which in turn is discussed in this thread. It also seems quite a low number considering previous GT games. We're not here to bash PD if 20 tracks is indeed true, but more to clarify what is true. Wether you think this is denial and anger, so be it, but plain and simply stating that you are correct just because you say so, doesn't make it so. We are all here for the truth and nothing else.

So to summarize - we think it's not a given fact, considering previous iterations of GT, what numerous sources are writing and what has been rumoured, that what your are stating is not 100% correct. Meanwhile you are dead set on that 20 track, 70 variations as true...
 
frank-jaeger
High Speed Ring
Daytona Speedway
Suzuka
Fuji Speedway
London
Eiger Norwand

+

Tsukuba (e3 trailer )
Indianapolis(e3 trailer)
LeMans
Nürburgring Nordschleife
Top Gear Test Track
Tokyo R246
Tuscanny Track:

Total 13

Do you really think that there's only 7 missing tracks ?
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20 locations and 70 tracks

Something isn't adding up here.

If we take it to mean 20 track locations, with 50 variations of these tracks equalling 70 separate what i'll call 'circuits', then frank-jaeger's list above, which includes Prologues tracks and tracks that have been confirmed in photos or videos, only adds up to:

High Speed Ring = 2 (F+R)
Daytona Speedway = 2 (Oval+Road)
Suzuka = 3 (GP+East+West)
Fuji Speedway = 4 (80's+90's+2005+2005GT)
London = 2 (F+R)
Eiger Norwand = 2 (F+R)

Tsukuba = 1
Indianapolis = 2 (Oval+Road)
LeMans = 3 (chicane+no chicane+Bugatti?)
Nürburgring Nordschleife = 3 (Nordschleife+ModernGP+24hour)
Top Gear Test Track = 1
Tokyo R246 = 2 (F+R)
Tuscanny Track = 1+? unknown

Which is 28 circuits.

Where do the other 42 come from? - The remaining 7 tracks with 6 variations each?

I suppose it's not a given that the tracks from Prologue will definately appear in GT5, but it's unlikely for that to be the case. I still think we are missing something from the translation.
 
regnar
I have no idea what's accurate without a better translation, but my best guess is 20 photo mode locations similar to GT4 and 70 tracks. 20 tracks and 70 variations defiantly doesn't work since their is a mathematical relationship between 20 tracks and 70 variations, subtracting all the known tracks that have appeared in GT5P, demos, E3, Gamescon, etc., is about 12 to 13 tracks, leaving about 7 to 8 remaining tracks, subtract about 20 variations that leaves us with 8 remaining tracks divided into 50 remaining variation, that's 6.25 variations per remaining tracks. All through the GT series there has never been that many variations per tracks. :)
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I think that your logic is faulty here. You are assuming that the current tracks will not have more variations. There is at least one more commonly used Daytona Road variation (shorter bus stop). I'm sure that there are more Fuji variations (weren't they present in GT4?). Also both London and Eiger were rumoured to have longer versions. That would add 2 more variations for each of those tracks.

I really don't think we can conclude much from what we have heard so far. Its too easy to lose things in translation. 20 tracks with 70 variations sounds to me to be the most likely situation but for all I know it could be 20 photomode locations and 70 tracks. I don't like the idea of calling a country a location. To me a location is much smaller. Tokyo would be a location. But then again, I don't know how it was translated.
 
It doesn't say 20 tracks, it says locations. This means that there will be 70 tracks spread over 20 different locals.
 
Justin
It doesn't say 20 tracks, it says locations. This means that there will be 70 tracks spread over 20 different locals.
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Listen to this man. He speaks the truth.👍

Some people are pretending like there's this widespread confusion on this issue. There isn't. Not anymore.

There are simply a bunch of people unhappy with the news and are twisting the news into something completely inaccurate that suits their desires rather than the facts.
 
But what is a track and what is a location? It's really pushing it to call a country a location and it is only pushing it a little calling different layouts. Remember FC and their 50 ferraris where it turned out half of them were F430s

The leak on the GT site translated to 20 courses and layout of more than 60.

We just don't have enough info yet. At least I don't see how anyone can be sure of how many tracks we are getting.
 
What?

A location is a location, a country is a location, a continent is a location your seat is a location. If you are still confused on this issue you are really trying to twist things too much.
 
Zathra5_
The leak on the GT site translated to 20 courses and layout of more than 60.

We just don't have enough info yet. At least I don't see how anyone can be sure of how many tracks we are getting.
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I need a facepalm pic for this.

How much clearer does it need to be. 70 tracks.

Forget a 'leak' 'trasnslated' website that no longer exists and listen to waht was told to one less then 12 hours ago.
 
Does Motorland complex not exist in the same locale as Fuji/Suzuka? If it does, that's one location with a couple of tracks and all their variations.


Use google maps to find Fuji. Slightly further on from the first corner is a small track that looks suspiciously like GT4's Beginner Course.
 
TheCracker
20 locations and 70 tracks

Something isn't adding up here.

If we take it to mean 20 track locations, with 50 variations of these tracks equalling 70 separate what i'll call 'circuits', then frank-jaeger's list above, which includes Prologues tracks and tracks that have been confirmed in photos or videos, only adds up to:

High Speed Ring = 2 (F+R)
Daytona Speedway = 2 (Oval+Road)
Suzuka = 3 (GP+East+West)
Fuji Speedway = 4 (80's+90's+2005+2005GT)
London = 2 (F+R)
Eiger Norwand = 2 (F+R)

Tsukuba = 1
Indianapolis = 2 (Oval+Road)
LeMans = 3 (chicane+no chicane+Bugatti?)
Nürburgring Nordschleife = 3 (Nordschleife+ModernGP+24hour)
Top Gear Test Track = 1
Tokyo R246 = 2 (F+R)
Tuscanny Track = 1+? unknown

Which is 28 circuits.

Where do the other 42 come from? - The remaining 7 tracks with 6 variations each?

I suppose it's not a given that the tracks from Prologue will definately appear in GT5, but it's unlikely for that to be the case. I still think we are missing something from the translation.
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I would just like to draw attention to this post.

+1
 
Justin
What?

A location is a location, a country is a location, a continent is a location your seat is a location. If you are still confused on this issue you are really trying to twist things too much.
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Would you ever use location to refer to a country in common language? Is laguna seca at the same location as Daytona?

Forget a 'leak' 'trasnslated' website that no longer exists and listen to waht was told to one less then 12 hours ago.
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And you are basing your opinion on a rush translated talk. As I said things can get lost in translation.
 
Come on guys! 70 tracks probably doesn't include the variants. Like they promote GTPSP, they said 35 tracks. It seems they have not counted the variants in GT5 yet.
 
^^^Maybe but as i read on the live feed, it said "20 Locations, 70 Tracks" It didn't say that those locations were where the tracks were going to be or where there would be photomode shots.
and again I really feel that the 20 locations are the countries in where the tracks will be (fictitious tracks or real tracks) and the 70 is the number of the tracks that will be in GT whether they be original or variants. Now remember, this is pure speculation, Dont take it too seriously.
 

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