The 20 tracks issue is really bugging me

Of course, with DLC, the track amounts could quite easily be increased. They could be sold separately or in packs. Classics Pack: Grand Valley, Deep Forest, Trial Mountain and Midfield. Rally Pack: Cathedral Rocks, Grand Canyon, Swiss Alps and Tahiti Maze. City Circuit Pack: New York, London, Seattle and Paris. Real Circuit Pack: Laguna Seca, Infineon, Motegi and Côte d'Azur. etc etc.

If some tracks are available as DLC and not in the game out-of-the-box, then even out of the circuits in seen in GT5:P or any of the GT5 videos, we can't be sure that they won't be DLC only. The 13 or 14 tracks that we think are part of the magic '20' might not be?
 
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It could mean 20 countries/other categories and 70 unique tracks...
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Sure it's not likely, but I would practically piss myself then and I wouldn't complain about almost any flaws... After all there is gonna be more than 10 times the cars from Prologue, so why not the tracks? ; ).
 
Of course, with DLC, the track amounts could quite easily be increased. They could be sold separately or in packs. Classics Pack: Grand Valley, Deep Forest, Trial Mountain and Midfield. Rally Pack: Cathedral Rocks, Grand Canyon, Swiss Alps and Tahiti Maze. City Circuit Pack: New York, London, Seattle and Paris. Real Circuit Pack: Laguna Seca, Infineon, Motegi and Côte d'Azur. etc etc.
Are you insane?
Grand Valley and Trial Mountain to be separately sold via DLC?
Those are Mother and Father of GT...
Not including them on the game release would be..................insane.
It's just amazing some people still think that there will be only 20 tracks... :crazy:
 
have anyone considered, that maybe the 20+, 70, and 950+, is what level of development the game is at right now, what is already 100% finnished. and with only 50 more cars to build (where as many of them are probably already being made) they can focus and tracks, damage and all that other geil for the coming 6 months!
 
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With a track taking a single person about a year to do (so I read), it's hard to imagine 70 different tracks. One can dream! There are so many real-world tracks I'd love to see in there.
 
With a track taking a single person about a year to do (so I read), it's hard to imagine 70 different tracks. One can dream! There are so many real-world tracks I'd love to see in there.

Fortunately PD would have more than 1 track designer! If over 10 people do the tracks, that's over 10 tracks per per year which gives us over 60 tracks in 6 years. A bit simplistic but you get the point. I'm sure PD have a decent number of people working on tracks.

Kaz once also said a single car takes 6 months of work, and we get 950 of those. ;)
 
20 locations, like england, usa, japan, each location will have serveral tracks like brands hatch, silverstone for england. tokyo, tsukuba, suzuka etc for japan. Come on guys he has phrased it "20 locations" just for hype
 
Do PD draw cars "by hand" star to finish or do they use visual grid capture thing turn10 uses?
 
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I'd like to see a poll with the question: How many tracks do you think GT5 will release with? "Really just 20 tracks," "20 followed by many more via DLC," "at least 50," or "I don't know what to think of all this."
 
have anyone considered, that maybe the 20+, 70, and 950+, is what level of development the game is at right now, what is already 100% finnished. and with only 50 more cars to build (where as many of them are probably already being made) they can focus and tracks, damage and all that other geil for the coming 6 months!

That's a possibility.

But how would that translate to 65% completed? lol for six months.
 
Guys, this might ease some of your pain.

http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/forums/thread/2605117.aspx

I just realized that Forza so far has A LOT of variations for it's tracks.
And it seems they also got counted for the accumulative track list.

So far the confirmed ones are 24 different environments/courses.
Gran Turismo 5 is 20 different "locations" which I'm sure are regions and countries - with many tracks included within.

So interpret the info on the Forza forums however you like. I'm can't state anything :D

And I'm genuinely interested in Forza 3 (how it'll turn out), that's why I'm following it's progress and the forum.
So please don't think I'm a fanboy that's trying to put down Forza.
 
From the Forza forum: Fujimi Kaido (14 tracks): full circuit, FM1 layout, 4 P2P's of kaido circuit, hillclimb, and all their reverses.

LOL. Obviously they didn't feel the need to tell the fans that 14 of the tracks in their grand total are created from variants of a single track, by including chicanes and different sections, multiplied by their reverse. Oh dear oh dear.
 
No, it says locations. Locations.
To me, a city or country is a location.

If they really do mean tracks...

1. Eiger
2. London
3. High Speed Ring
4. Fuji
5. Suzuka
6. Daytona
7. Nürburgring
8. Tuscany
9. Indianapolis
10. Madrid
11. Top Gear
12. Le Mans
13. Tsukuba
14. Tokyo R246
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6 open spots. Grand Valley, Midfield, Deep Forest and Trial Mountain surely have to be in ?
And what about Autumn Ring and Apricot Hill ?
But then what about New York, Seoul, Hong Kong, Seattle, Paris, Amalfi, Aria, Monaco ?
Cathedral Rocks & El Capitan ? Grand Canyon ?
The night tracks in Tokyo. The rally tracks in the snow.
Oh and let's not forget Laguna Seca, Infineon and Motegi.

At least 15 of those wouldn't be in ? :(


+1 almost all are in GTPSP so there is NO WAY they're not in GT5.

So that would make what, 40/50 tracks.

Now, a rally stage is unique, even if Tuscany has 4 stages, thats 4 tracks, so thats why 70 'tracks' (some being point to point) is almost certain
 
+1 almost all are in GTPSP so there is NO WAY they're not in GT5.

So that would make what, 40/50 tracks.

Now, a rally stage is unique, even if Tuscany has 4 stages, thats 4 tracks, so thats why 70 'tracks' (some being point to point) is almost certain

I disagree. There are 35 tracks and 70 variations in GTpsp. 2 variations per track. I can almost guarantee that GT5 will have more than 2 variations for many of the tracks. Since GT5 has 70 variations as well and a higher variation/track ratio, it will not have 35 tracks. Therefore some of the psp tracks will not be in GT5 at release.

Edit: so unless 70 unique tracks is miraculously right we have an absolute maximum of 35 tracks for GT5 and a minimum of 20. If we assume 3 variations per track we would get 23-24 tracks. An average of 2.5 variations per track gives 28 tracks.
 
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That's a possibility.

But how would that translate to 65% completed? lol for six months.

as others have said, maybe that refers to the demo. my hypothesis is that they promised 1000 cars, which would be almost stupid not to at least try to achieve when they are so close (would be really good for marketing). yet they only confirms 950+ cars, probably to avoid dissapointment if they only release it with 951 and then add DLC. maybe it's the same story with the tracks.
it would be nice to get clarified what "locations" means though.
 
Note: Most of the Gran Turismo 5 and Gran Turismo (PSP) tracks have not been officially confirmed
Copy n Pasted from your link.

They get their info from whoever gives it to them. Wiki has a ton of wrong info. Its a good resource but it always needs to be checked.
 
If the game only ends up having 20 tracks, I might not buy it. Thats a total letdown.

Even if they were 20 of the best, most fun, most prestigious, insane, tracks ever made. Also as a side having 20 tracks does not lessen the over 950 cars in the game. Nor does it lessen any of the other features. The truth is if you took the time to sign up for this site you obviously like cars and or GT, in which case there is almost no reason (besides the fact you don't have a PS3) for you to get GT5.
 
I didnt read this whole thread so if this has been said already, im sorry.

But you all really think there is only going to be 20 tracks? Thats not what they said, they said 20 locations, not tracks. I think they meant, 20 locations and 70 unique tracks with maybe a couple hundred variations available.

I highly doubt that they would take a step backwards.
 
I was being a bit dramatic, but it seems criminal to only give us 20 when the past 3 had 35+. Also the NASCAR section is a huge selling point for me and 20 tracks basically eliminates any chance at having more Oval tracks. I want to know what happened to Amar's 96 figure.
 
20 locations, like england, usa, japan, each location will have serveral tracks like brands hatch, silverstone for england. tokyo, tsukuba, suzuka etc for japan. Come on guys he has phrased it "20 locations" just for hype

Ca you even name 20 countries with race circuits?
 
The F1 championship has 17ish races, each in a different country (Except the European grand prix, but close enough). It's not difficult to name 3 or 4 others that don't feature.

Therefore, yes!
 
Ok, so which 'locations' are the traditional Gran Turismo tracks at?

They're not, they are fictional circuits at fictitional unspecified locations. Which is why locations can only refere to tracks not countries.
 
1. Eiger - Switzerland
2. London - England
3. High Speed Ring - Unknown
4. Fuji - Japan
5. Suzuka - Japan
6. Daytona - USA
7. Nürburgring - Germany
8. Tuscany - Italy
9. Indianapolis - USA
10. Madrid - Spain
11. Top Gear - England
12. Le Mans - France
13. Tsukuba -Japan
14. Tokyo R246 - Japan

That's 8 or 9 locations. Where are the other locations? GT4 only had 3 further country 'locations' The whole 20 locations as seperate countries just isn't a well thought out argument.
 
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