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That couldn't get anymore plain jane, if you tried.What about the new Tata:
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That couldn't get anymore plain jane, if you tried.What about the new Tata:
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The biggest disappointment of my motoring life in the past year is that the Honda Fit has grown up. I'd been thinking about the Fit for over a year now; it literally did not measure up with reality; without a kid (and all their stuff thereof), it probably would have been perfect.
The second biggest disappointment is that first-generation 1.5 manual transmission variants only goes on sale here secondhand for brief flashes of time before they're snapped up. One day, one of those will be mine.
That's what irks me most about car companies these days - Its almost impossible to find a car with the bare essentials as it is. Sure, they make them, but they don't want to sell it to you. Way back in the day, when I was looking at buying a new Mazda3, my salesman was dreading the fact that I was (probably) going to have to order a completely stripped out 2009 model. No one had them in the Michigan, Illinois and Ohio area.
Way back in the day, when I was looking at buying a new Mazda3, my salesman was dreading the fact that I was (probably) going to have to order a completely stripped out 2009 model. No one had them in the Michigan, Illinois and Ohio area.
Just want to make a quick note & re-enforce this for VW & Audi. The last 3 cars I have looked at recently were the CC & A5/S5. During the option specs sheet, there were several times I noticed that certain packages were thrown in completely free of charge if you wanted them. As Pupik said, I would just have to wait a few more weeks to get what I wanted. That right there, is something I have rarely ever seen in BMW's catalog without a fee being tacked on.We're all deceived by car magazines; the automakers and associated suppliers round up a car for their tests and needs. But try to find one with just the options you want, and it's nearly impossible. The problem is that you want the one car they have, so you're against the ropes in the bargaining ring. I've got to hand it to VW, Audi, and Mini; they will still build a car to your specs for no extra cost (just give them a few weeks).
As for Mini, I can't speak for them. Last time I looked at them, every single thing had a price; exterior, interior, techno goodies, wheel finishes, paint, etc.
As for Mini, I can't speak for them. Last time I looked at them, every single thing had a price; exterior, interior, techno goodies, wheel finishes, paint, etc.
It only gained 50 pounds of weight. I've driven the 2007 Fit in stick as well. The car hasn't really lost any of its little zing and zip with the size increase.
Everything comes with a price, and its arguably too much for certain pieces. We just had a MINI dealer open in town last year, as I recall, the only one to open nation-wide in 2008, and they've yet to bring in stripper models. All are fully-loaded Coopers with slushboxes. Its not uncommon to see them scrapping at $30K on occasion.
Same story as everywhere. Want the basics? You have to order it.
The UK is getting something called the MINI First, which is basically a generic car in the shape of a Cooper. I doesn't have anything on it and I want to say the only standard thing is a CD player.
The UK is getting something called the MINI First, which is basically a generic car in the shape of a Cooper. I doesn't have anything on it and I want to say the only standard thing is a CD player. Here is what it looks like.
the "sport" package
auto trans.
I think that Mini 'First' thing is ridiculous. A Mini isn't a car you buy because it's well priced, so who on earth is going to choose one that's equipped like a garden shed? They might as well knock £9,000 off and just sell people Mini badges for £2k a piece.
Not really, on most cars the sport package just has slightly better suspension. It normally doesn't affect the drivetrain.
I would. As long as the engine wasn't the base model. I honestly don't mind not having equipment.
That's kind of a negative way to look at it Brad. You'll find many of the new features you'll get in cars these days aren't just techno goodies, but things that improve suspensions, engines, etc., & are all things that have just as much an equal chance to go wrong as the original equipment.I dunno. When I go looking for cars, I'm always shopping for the stripped-out models. I don't want the extra fancy crap in there. Its all stuff that is going to go wrong, that I'm going to have to fix or replace. It seems like the MINI First would sell, more or less, to hardcore MINI fans who don't need a whole lot. That's not a bad way to go. I'd say we have a comparable group of people that do the same with Subarus and Volkswagens.
Well, I don't know your exact current situation, but imo, you should never settle for what you don't want. I mean, things like A/C & electrics windows aren't exactly that difficult to find in used cars. And if that's what you want, again imo, buy a car that has what you want.As someone who for the forseeable future can only afford third- or fourth-hand cars, lack of equipment to me certainly means less to go wrong. Don't get me wrong, I'd quite like aircon in my next car, but at the 10+ years old I'm looking at I'll be quite lucky if I get a car where the A/C works perfectly. Same goes for 'leccy windows and so on. Equipment in brand new cars is great - it ceases to be so great for people who buy them numerous years down the line when all the gremlins have moved in...
I dunno. When I go looking for cars, I'm always shopping for the stripped-out models. I don't want the extra fancy crap in there. Its all stuff that is going to go wrong, that I'm going to have to fix or replace. It seems like the MINI First would sell, more or less, to hardcore MINI fans who don't need a whole lot. That's not a bad way to go. I'd say we have a comparable group of people that do the same with Subarus and Volkswagens.