The dominant car in GT5

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dave_sz
It has not much more than just power, your link shows it. How many cars with much less power are in front of it? If you drove the car you would know that. You would see that many american manufacturers, still don't understand that it's not all about drag racing.
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Oh boy.
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Lol, maybe I should've said that because of the consumers american manufacturers still don't care about taking corners?
 
I would think the average American consumer isn't interested in any sort of driving excitement.
 
dave_sz
It has not much more than just power, your link shows it. How many cars with much less power are in front of it? If you drove the car you would know that. You would see that many american manufacturers, still don't understand that it's not all about drag racing.
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It's not a track car. Nor is it a drag racer. It's a GT car. I can provide the review that goes with that lap time. It isn't negative.

http://www.motortrend.com/features/..._best_drivers_car/2010_ford_shelby_gt500.html

Also, I haven't seen a pure American drag racer for quite some time. They're pretty rare actually.
 
They're FWD, which just makes them garbage.

More on topic, I wonder if GT5 will have the S7 Competition. It's basically the S7 Twin Turbo ACR'd. If the base S7 produces over twice the ACR's downforce, the S7 C must just make number so high they would make you laugh.

And on PP, it might be true that lower performance cars dominate due to tuning adaptability, but hopefully PD won't overlook downgrades. I find it rather stupid to not be able to enter a race because you've got 1 hp too many. Most racecars are downgraded by regulations anyway.
 
Dominant (confirmed or very plausible) production cars in Gran Turismo 5 by nation:

United States: Chevrolet Corvette ZR1/Dodge Viper ACR/Ford GT

Italy: Ferrari Enzo/Lamborghini Murcielago LP670-4 Super Veloce/Pagani Zonda F

Great Britain: McLaren F1/McLaren F1 LM/Aston Martin One-77

Germany: RUF CTR3/ Gumpert Apollo/Mercedes McLaren SLR

France: Bugatti Veyron/Bugatti EB110/Citroen GT

Sweden: Koenigsegg CCXR/Koenigsegg CCX/Koenigsegg CC8S

Japan: Nissan GT-R Spec V/Nissan GT-R/Lexus LFA

Any one have any more candidates or countries?
 
I must be the only Saleen S7 fan. I'd wager it's certainly faster than the GT, most likely beyond reach of the ZR1, and probably a good bit faster than the ACR.
 
SrRd RacinG
I had it in mind after I made the list, but it was blah in GT4.
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I wouldn't use GT4 as a reference. It was one of the [very] poorly modeled cars in that game. Despite having one of the widest sets of tires in the game, the rear had no traction.

On the other hand, the car seemed to hook up 750 hp and set (or come close to setting) MT's F8 lap record easily in real life.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/exotic/112_0605_2007_saleen_s7_twin_turbo/specs_pricing.html
 
I think the LP-560 will also be a very tough car to beat no matter what you're driving. Good power but great handling and braking. It will probably be almost as easy as the GTR to drive but with more neutral handling.
 
Aderrrm
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Easy to drive? I find it quite a challenging car to drive with all assists off but that's your opinion. :p
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Tune it, you can get the arse end of the s2000 to stick like super glue, and the turn in is second to none.
 
cicohipe
Tune it, you can get the arse end of the s2000 to stick like super glue, and the turn in is second to none.
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Well I agree the S2000 is an awesome piece of machinery. So how did you achieve your awesome turn in? that is the only thing I am missing in that car.
 
SrRd RacinG
Dominant (confirmed or very plausible) production cars in Gran Turismo 5 by nation:

United States: Chevrolet Corvette ZR1/Dodge Viper ACR/Ford GT

Italy: Ferrari Enzo/Lamborghini Murcielago LP670-4 Super Veloce/Pagani Zonda F

Great Britain: McLaren F1/McLaren F1 LM/Aston Martin One-77

Germany: RUF CTR3/ Gumpert Apollo/Mercedes McLaren SLR

France: Bugatti Veyron/Bugatti EB110/Citroen GT

Sweden: Koenigsegg CCXR/Koenigsegg CCX/Koenigsegg CC8S

Japan: Nissan GT-R Spec V/Nissan GT-R/Lexus LFA

Any one have any more candidates or countries?
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Italy: Zonda Cinque, Maserati MC12, Ferrari F50
GB: Noble M600, Radical SR8LM-(prob not very likely!)
 
according to street cars: none of these (ZR1, ACR, GTR, SLS and F458) are even as fast as the murcielago lp640 and it has 4 wheeled drive.. so i think lp640 or when in, lp670-4 superveloce, reventon or veyron have to be the fastest cars.. search youtube for " veyron - will it drift?" the veyron hast 4wd too and its also impossible to make that car break out and drift, even with esp out, so its pretty clear.. 👍
 
Taking Top Gear as a parameter ( Calm down, TG haters..), the veyron was almost fast as a GTR and Dunsfold is a power circuit with very sharp turns, so I must believe that Bugatti Veyron will be one of fastest cars around most of the tracks, no one tested it to it's limits I believe. :sly:
 
Dan_
Taking Top Gear as a parameter ( Calm down, TG haters..), the veyron was almost fast as a GTR and Dunsfold is a power circuit with very sharp turns, so I must believe that Bugatti Veyron will be one of fastest cars around most of the tracks, no one tested it to it's limits I believe. :sly:
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Exactly, a POWER circuit, and a car with more than 2x the power lost to the less powerful car. The Veyron isn't a track car, it's a fat bastard built for top speed.
 
dave_sz
Exactly, a POWER circuit, and a car with more than 2x the power lost to the less powerful car. The Veyron isn't a track car, it's a fat bastard built for top speed.
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Yeah, but for sure it will be damn fast while accelerating and thus can balance it's disavantage in the corners. The veyron is nothing more than a crazy vision of Ferdinand Piech to built the fastest road going car, even so, it can pull 1.34 in the skidpad and has a lot of tech, so it's might not be slow when well used in a track. I'm sure it can beat the R35 GTR in almost every circuit.
 
I would hope so as you can get 20 GT-R for the price of one Veyron.
As for the 1.34g, I know the tires are designed for 1.3g but has the car actually pulled that much g?
 
dave_sz
I would hope so as you can get 20 GT-R for the price of one Veyron.
As for the 1.34g, I know the tires are designed for 1.3g but has the car actually pulled that much g?
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Actually this was from Popular Science Magazine from 2006, the regular and more recent road tests performed "only" about 1G, which is a big difference, but you have to consider that none of them tuned the suspension. :D

If I am correct, GT5P had no increase in PP when you tune the suspension, so there is a lot of room for improvement in the bug. Who cares about comfort in GT5? Speed is what makes you win.
 
Dominant (confirmed or plausible) production cars in Gran Turismo 5 by nation:

United States: Chevrolet Corvette ZR1/Dodge Viper ACR/Saleen S7/Ford GT

Italy: Ferrari Enzo/Lamborghini Murcielago LP670-4 Super Veloce/Pagani Zonda F/Maserati MC12

Great Britain: McLaren F1/McLaren F1 LM/Aston Martin One-77/Noble M600

Germany: RUF CTR3/ Gumpert Apollo/Mercedes McLaren SLR/Mercedes SL65 AMG Black Series

France: Bugatti Veyron/Bugatti EB110/Citroen GT

Sweden: Koenigsegg CCXR/Koenigsegg CCX/Koenigsegg CC8S

Japan: Nissan GT-R Spec V/Nissan GT-R/Lexus LFA
 
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SrRd RacinG
What will be the dominant 90's cars?

F1?
F50?
Diablo?
XJ220?
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Thats a tough one. Not the Diablo though, i think thats out.

I'd say a Merc CLK GTR road car would beat the others. But i think a lot of people are going to try and tune the best out of the F1 just for the sake of it, that car is a legend.

I've always liked the F50 so i'll be using that out of the 90s cars. I like it better than the F40 and Enzo combined.
 
SrRd RacinG @ Who told you that there would be Koenigsegg's, Gumpert's, Pagani's, Maserati's in GT5? That list is very flawed, not only because there are cars we don't know if they will make it into the game, but because of entire brands, also. I would change the title to "very plausible" only, and not even then would it be an accurate title. "Plausible" would be better, there's no way over 10 cars can be dominators. It has never been like that before.
 
Lucas
SrRd RacinG @ Who told you that there would be Koenigsegg's, Gumpert's, Pagani's, Maserati's in GT5? That list is very flawed, not only because there are cars we don't know if they will make it into the game, but because of entire brands, also. I would change the title to "very plausible" only, and not even then would it be an accurate title. "Plausible" would be better, there's no way over 10 cars can be dominators. It has never been like that before.
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Mostly assumptions. They're all plausible, though. And we already have seen Pagani in GT PSP, so that's a huge hint. As for the list, I'm just pointing out some of the faster/more dominant cars by each country. In other words, the cars that will give you the best challenge and the cars that are known to be strong.
 
Lucas
SrRd RacinG @ Who told you that there would be Koenigsegg's, Gumpert's, Pagani's, Maserati's in GT5?
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Man, Pagani will be there for sure, it was in GT4, it is in GTPSP and this is the best marketing tool for a company that makes about fifteen cars in a whole month, so they will be in. Koenigsegg, no evidence, the same goes for Gumpert. We have seen some PD staff members taking photos of a Gran Cabrio, but that alone cannot be considered a confirmation of Maserati, it's just a hint, also, after bringing in Ferrari, Maserati is the only Fiat Group brand that stills out, and they make fabulous cars, that alone led everyone to expect them in GT.
 

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