The EXP debacle finally ends!

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Can you grind the seasonal events over and over again, or is it once you win you dont receive any more points like the special events?

One time only.
 
The seasonal events hand out a nice chunk of XP... but it's essentially a limited-time Special Event, is all.It won't help any of us level by any reasonable amount; it will help people who are just starting off in GT Mode, though.
Spot on, at level 30 the XP from these events is not even noticeable as a blip.

I checked a few events and credits is up (by varying % amounts) but XP is totally unchanged.

PD are obviously aware of their mistakes, albeit waaay too late. All we can hope is that provide new events on a regular basis ... but a lot more of them.
 
Exp online is pretty terrible...... I got 3k for a 1 lap race of the nurburgring. So basically still no incentive to race online.


Though the new special events gave me a nice boost.
 
I would'nt say it ends, just merely pushed back for a couple of weeks.
 
Seems like gamers in these days have no passion anymore... In GT1,2,3 and 4, we´ve played the hell out of the game...

You all wan´t to reach level 40 3 weeks after release... And then what? Crying about less content and events...

Thank god they made the game not as big as GT4...

By the way,I´m not happy about it that they throwin the xp points and the cash around... This makes the game much too easy now...

Agreed.

I couldn't tell you how many times I did the DTCM in GT4, over and over, just to get 900k credits with an hour and a half of racing. I would then blow that money on random cars just to have fun.

If you look at the 'grinding' as a waste of time, then you might not want to play a racing game after all, since the whole damn game is 'grinding', technically.
 
Agreed.

I couldn't tell you how many times I did the DTCM in GT4, over and over, just to get 900k credits with an hour and a half of racing. I would then blow that money on random cars just to have fun.

If you look at the 'grinding' as a waste of time, then you might not want to play a racing game after all, since the whole damn game is 'grinding', technically.

No, grinding is the created necessity to repeat already accomplished tasks numerous times to progress.

A lot of the early game is not grinding, it is simply playing the game. A few tries here and there doing something you haven't already done and you are through, once you have accomplished a race, you don't need to do it again to progress.

When you hit the grind wall and CANNOT progress to new challenges without going back and redoing things you have already done, over and over THAT is grinding.

One is doing to accomplish it, the other is being forced to do what you have already accomplished repeatedly.

As for doing DCTM in GT4, that's fine becuase it's your choice to do it. If you happen to really like doing loops on Indy over and over, then you are in luck, there is no grind for you!

For the other 99% percent of people it's a grind.

The difference is whether you would choose to do it or whether you have to becuase there is no other feasible way.

I have played Mario World dozens if not hundred of times through... that means I have beaten world 3-2 countless times, and it's all fine because I wanted to each time for fun.

Now if the game was setup so that after beating world 3-1 you had to beat world 3-2 120 time before moving onto world 3-4, would you argue that since I have played world 3-2 voluntarily a hundred times over the years anyway that being forced to do 3-2 120 times between 3-1 and 3-3 isn't grinding?
 
Exp online is pretty terrible...... I got 3k for a 1 lap race of the nurburgring. So basically still no incentive to race online.


Though the new special events gave me a nice boost.

You mean besides the vastly improved racing experience (provided you are racing someone decent)?
 
Seems like gamers in these days have no passion anymore... In GT1,2,3 and 4, we´ve played the hell out of the game...

You all wan´t to reach level 40 3 weeks after release... And then what? Crying about less content and events...

Thank god they made the game not as big as GT4...

By the way,I´m not happy about it that they throwin the xp points and the cash around... This makes the game much too easy now...

Yeah. Doing Indy 98k race about 54 times (About 3 hours of racing the same boring event) to get enough money to buy and overhaul a FGT was so cool. It just felt like playing gt1-4, right?
Yeah, and those 54 times of grinding the same race gave us 200k of xp. (Approximatly, the amount you need to get from lvl 25 to lv26).

PD deserves the award for including the worst lvl up system in gaming history.
 
You mean besides the vastly improved racing experience (provided you are racing someone decent)?

That is a pretty big IF.


When after 3 hours of searching to find a track / car class I want to race with I "might" get decent people to race with. (usually I win by 1/2 a lap or people punt me off the track at the first corner)


Not really a fun way to spend time imo.
 
That is a pretty big IF.


When after 3 hours of searching to find a track / car class I want to race with I "might" get decent people to race with. (usually I win by 1/2 a lap or people punt me off the track at the first corner)


Not really a fun way to spend time imo.

Add some friends from here. Watch it all change.
 
IMO the amount of credits and XP points you get from online races should be a lot higher.

Winning a online race is much harder then winning a A-Spec race. It takes sometimes a insane amount of skill to beat some of the best GT players in the world.

Just compare the rewards you get from Indy117k and from a online race at the nordschleife against real players. Frustrating, isn`t it?
 
How many Cr. and how much EXP do you get for online races?

Got like 4k exp for winning Nordschleife 1 lap.
Deepforest Raceway gave me 300 exp and like 800 CR... not that much but still something :P
 
Guys... Do the seasonal GTR event race.... 1st place nets you 800,000 Cr. and about 70 or 80,000 XP points. 👍 The other events give you a bit less but also way more than any other events.
 
Seems like gamers in these days have no passion anymore... In GT1,2,3 and 4, we´ve played the hell out of the game...

You all wan´t to reach level 40 3 weeks after release... And then what? Crying about less content and events...

Thank god they made the game not as big as GT4...

By the way,I´m not happy about it that they throwin the xp points and the cash around... This makes the game much too easy now...
I think most people's problem is that they didn't make the game as big as GT4.

It is (was?) the lack of events that's getting to people. The massive XP requirements wouldn't be a big deal if there were more than 50 races in the entire game.

Compared to GT4, PD got rid of half the races (one make races, rally) and then added a leveling system which effectively creates a sense of urgency. Thanks to the level system, the only way to not race the same races anymore... is to race the same races.

It's not the guys at level 15 with a ton of races ahead of them that complain. It's the guys sitting at level 28 with pretty much everything completed, wondering how in the world they are going to pull XP out of nowhere to level up.

Had PD made GT5 massive with an unbelievable number of races, people would be saying, "WOW... this game is going to take forever. I hope it doesn't get boring." Instead they are (were?) saying, "WOW... I already have nothing to do, this is boring."
 
IMO the amount of credits and XP points you get from online races should be a lot higher.

Winning a online race is much harder then winning a A-Spec race. It takes sometimes a insane amount of skill to beat some of the best GT players in the world.

Just compare the rewards you get from Indy117k and from a online race at the nordschleife against real players. Frustrating, isn`t it?
Agreed. I raced two 5 lap races tonight. Including the between game lobbies, it probably took me 30 minutes. I finished 3rd/14 in one race, 8th/14 in the other... all in all walking away with something like 3,500 XP.

It's something, but definitely not a viable alternative compared to what else is in the game.
 
I've already done most of the Special Events so I get NOTHING from this update regarding the EXP gain.
 
Ok, agreed they really put in too less events! I´m at level 21 and have not done any race 2 times so I did not thought about the problem to race some events very often to gain xp points... So I agree, the content is too less!
 
Seems like gamers in these days have no passion anymore... In GT1,2,3 and 4, we´ve played the hell out of the game...

You all wan´t to reach level 40 3 weeks after release... And then what? Crying about less content and events...

Thank god they made the game not as big as GT4...

By the way,I´m not happy about it that they throwing the xp points and the cash around... This makes the game much too easy now...

I thought you played GT to buy your favorite cars and race them? Not spending 5 hours doing the same race. Gt4 was 100 hours+ of game play but it was a fun 100 hours because it was so much to do and money came by so easy. So explain your logic some more?
 
Can you grind the seasonal events over and over again, or is it once you win you dont receive any more points like the special events?

I think I read "Once you complete it once, you get all of the points from other positions and your own, if you choose to do it more than once, you only get the rewards related to your finishing position"
 
Seems like gamers in these days have no passion anymore... In GT1,2,3 and 4, we´ve played the hell out of the game...

You all wan´t to reach level 40 3 weeks after release... And then what? Crying about less content and events...

Thank god they made the game not as big as GT4...

By the way,I´m not happy about it that they throwin the xp points and the cash around... This makes the game much too easy now...

Spot on pal 👍 Let them cry same old same old bunch of cry babies who throw a fit when they find out they need to actually play the game to get any reward out of it. Trouble with all the younger generation of gamers today is the " gimmie gimmie gimmie " syndrome...they want everything a game has to offer and they want it NOW! :rolleyes:
 
Seems like gamers in these days have no passion anymore... In GT1,2,3 and 4, we´ve played the hell out of the game...

You all wan´t to reach level 40 3 weeks after release... And then what? Crying about less content and events...

Thank god they made the game not as big as GT4...

By the way,I´m not happy about it that they throwin the xp points and the cash around... This makes the game much too easy now...

Games are supposed to be fun, not a repetitive chore. 👎
 
and whats to say that later on they will increase the lvl limit, like in wow, release a bunch of new events and a new lvl cap of 50 with a car or 2 that requires you to be at lvl 50 to drive.

starting to sound like a racing rpg type game kaz visioned
 
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To all people who are crying about GT5 and the reward system...

I don´t want an GT that I can finish in 1-2 weeks...

Did you finish GT4 in 2 weeks? Did it have an XP System?

-> So you see an XP System is not needed to make a long lasting game - also much content does the trick....
 
Spot on pal 👍 Let them cry same old same old bunch of cry babies who throw a fit when they find out they need to actually play the game to get any reward out of it. Trouble with all the younger generation of gamers today is the " gimmie gimmie gimmie " syndrome...they want everything a game has to offer and they want it NOW! :rolleyes:

You are looking at it incorrectly, it has already been explained that getting to higher levels you hit a wall with money and levels. You need insane money to buy certain cars for certain races that require a certain level but the races don't pay much or give much xp SO you have to resort to repeating the most lucrative race to progress in the game. There is no reward in repeating the same race to PROGRESS in the game, more events would resolve this issue.
 
Instead of complaining, enjoy it. Does the world revolve around GT5 now? I dont think so. Play other games, enjoy some quality time with your family and friends, go out and do some outdoor activities, exercises, or finish the project you started or say you wanted to do since... I don't know. What's the rush? Seriously people nowadays remind me of the movie Idiocracy.
 
We where playing (12 or so of us) Grand valley, 7 laps. As i finished first i got somewhat over 17k Credits, and 6688 exp., but for winning also the pole position, after free run, i have received double amount of money and exp. :-).
 
Spot on pal 👍 Let them cry same old same old bunch of cry babies who throw a fit when they find out they need to actually play the game to get any reward out of it. Trouble with all the younger generation of gamers today is the " gimmie gimmie gimmie " syndrome...they want everything a game has to offer and they want it NOW! :rolleyes:

Maybe, but that doesn't mean that this game doesn't have a problem with the lack of races. It's a numbers game at this point, if you get above level 30 or so you get hit by a wall of grind.

Most you guys defending the games extended length are ignorant of it and below level 30. Mileages vary, some could hit the grind at level 20 but others play in a style that they can get much higher, it's unavoidable though.

littlesthobo what level are you? You agreed with Sele19981's post but he finally saw the grind and changed his mind a few posts up.

Ok, agreed they really put in too less events! I´m at level 21 and have not done any race 2 times so I did not thought about the problem to race some events very often to gain xp points... So I agree, the content is too less!
 
You don't have to grind at all. You are choosing to grind. Just stop doing the Indy race, choose one of the other 50+ races and do that. Buy another car and try some races again. Play online and get experience or gold the licences and special events if you haven't already.

Just because doing the indy race is the optimum route to more exp doesn't mean you have to do it. Just play, it's a game after all.

If you're still not having fun do something else entirely. You don't have to get to the next level, it's not that important.
 
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