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NOVOCAINE
No doubt because the European Union is mentioned in western media regularly. Meanwhile NAFTA is not! 👍
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Really? NAFTA has been talked about quite a bit in U.S. media, Mercosur hasn't, it probably had more to do with how much you care about modern history or global econ., thus dependent on what type of news you watch or read. Anyways me like others are just surprised that people didn't know Mexico was considered NA is all, you're not the only one to make these comments on the web.
 
NAFTA is just a trade agreement between the US, Canada and Mexico, not much to say for anyone outside NA really.
 
LMSCorvetteGT2
Really? NAFTA has been talked about quite a bit in U.S. media, Mercosur hasn't, it probably had more to do with how much you care about modern history or global econ., thus dependent on what type of news you watch or read. Anyways me like others are just surprised that people didn't know Mexico was considered NA is all, you're not the only one to make these comments on the web.
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Perhaps NAFTA is mentioned quite a bit in the US which really isn't surprising, as it involves the States heavily after all. But I've never heard it mentioned in the media here in the UK. Ever.
 
NOVOCAINE
Perhaps NAFTA is mentioned quite a bit in the US which really isn't surprising, as it involves the States heavily after all. But I've never heard it mentioned in the media here in the UK. Ever.
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Trust me, NAFTA hasn't done much for the U.S.
 
NOVOCAINE
Perhaps NAFTA is mentioned quite a bit in the US which really isn't surprising, as it involves the States heavily after all. But I've never heard it mentioned in the media here in the UK. Ever.
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Well why would you when the EU has so many issues, no reason to report on any other global trade agreement. :sly:

My point was simple, since I thought you would know about certain other groups, hence giving you an easy way to remember for next time. @GTPorsche gave an equally good or better way of remembering 👍
 
NOVOCAINE
A very uninspiring choice, if true! At least he'll keep it on track - albeit slowly. One wonders if he was forced on Haas by Ferrari as frankly, he wouldn't even have been on my radar.
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Remember what Massa was like before he joined Ferrari? He was just like Gutiérrez, and wouldn't have lasted much longer without some help from Maranello.
 
prisonermonkeys
Fixed that for you. Sauber might have had unprecedented success with Kobayashi and Pérez, but it's easy to forget that they haven't lived up to it since.
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Actually in 2013 Sauber were competitive; although not to the same extent they'd been the year previously. However Hulkenberg still recorded four top six finishing positions towards the seasons end; meanwhile Gutiérrez could manage only one points finish all year.

Now if Nico who in your opinion isn't that stellar could manage 51 points that year, then what does that make Esteban? Who only scored 6! Only a small part of that deficit can be put down to inexperience as good drivers always adapt quickly, and find their feet early on. Simple fact of the matter is, he's not good enough.
 
Sometimes that happens - Pérez freely admits that he went to McLaren too soon. But I don't think Ferrari would have taken Gutiérrez if they didn't see something in him. If it were any other team, it would be easy to write it off as being a grab for cash, but this is Ferrari we're talking about - if the sport ever wound up in a position where Ferrari needed to take pay driversit would be in dire straits indeed.
 
prisonermonkeys
Sometimes that happens - Pérez freely admits that he went to McLaren too soon. But I don't think Ferrari would have taken Gutiérrez if they didn't see something in him. If it were any other team, it would be easy to write it off as being a grab for cash, but this is Ferrari we're talking about - if the sport ever wound up in a position where Ferrari needed to take pay driversit would be in dire straits indeed.
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What Ferrari saw in Gutiérrez was his ability to drive around slowly but steadily during the few testing sessions there are now, and collect data, without sticking it in a wall. That's all teams need in a test driver nowadays! Otherwise do you really think Ferrari would have hired an ageing fresh out of HRT De La Rosa several seasons back?
 
NOVOCAINE
What Ferrari saw in Gutiérrez was his ability to drive around slowly but steadily during the few testing sessions there are now, and collect data, without sticking it in a wall.
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I have no figures for this but the impression I got in 2014 was that he was the driver most likely to weave like a mentaller in the braking zones. Veeeery GP2.
 
Ex-F1 Driver Hector Rebaque just confirmed Gutierrez in a seat for next year.

Should be HAAS
 
I can't believe no-one's mentioned this:
 
Now we just need Jaguar to return back and we can see a showdown between Daniel Craig and Tom Hiddleston for who has the best British accent.

I mean, that's obviously where this is going.
 
Esteban Gutierrez has just been confirmed as the second Haas F1 driver on The F1 Show.
 
My money is on them changing the team name entirely but keeping the majority of Force India sponsors as Vijay Mallya said he's going no where.

I would love the car to be in that classic metallic sage colour AM use and have all the sponsors in an off white colour. Heritage style :drool:
 
GTPorsche
Who were the under performers in lower formula that became better in F1? I keep seeing that posted but I've yet to see anything backing that claim up.
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prisonermonkeys
Kobayashi.

That's about it.
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Michael Schumacher didn't do much in the lower formulae. 1990 German F3 champion against pretty much no one (apart from a couple of latter day touring car drivers like Jorg Muller and Franz Engstler) was his claim to fame. British F3 was the place to be in 1990 as it had Hakkinen, Fittipaldi, Salo, Adrian Fernandez and Alain Menu taking part.

Schumacher also won Macau in 1990 but only after he had taken Hakkinen out.
 
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