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catamount39
It's probably because they can't pay somebody, so they want Rossi to drive because they can pay him less. :p Honestly he should think of Sportscars or Indycar...or both. :D
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Follow the Chilton Way!
 
catamount39
Oh Carlin, I was gonna say, Nissan's LMP1 effort hasn't gone well. :p
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That was predicted though. It was a massive publicity stunt, which did its job. Carlin on the other hand...if Chilton actually can drive, IndyCar would be a nice place for him.
 
BRRT_Angel
Alex Rossi racing in F1 will be short lived I hope. Just doesn't deserve it.
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Rossi is second in this year's GP2 championship behind one of the most promising young drivers in the world, I think he's more deserving than most. I can't think of anyone who needs to be replaced more desperately than Mehri, either - as I said in one of the other F1 threads recently, he's the worst driver in F1 this year, and arguably the worst in the last four or five.
 
GTP_Ingram
Rossi is second in this year's GP2 championship behind one of the most promising young drivers in the world, I think he's more deserving than most. I can't think of anyone who needs to be replaced more desperately than Mehri, either - as I said in one of the other F1 threads recently, he's the worst driver in F1 this year, and arguably the worst in the last four or five.
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He's second place in the GP2 championship alright; over a hundred points behind Vandoorne! So he's hardly a competitor. Which after two seasons in the series, you'd expect him to be. So whilst he's certainly not a bad driver he's more of a Gutierrez, than a Grojean.
 
NOVOCAINE
He's second place in the GP2 championship alright; over a hundred points behind Vandoorne! So he's hardly a competitor. Which after two seasons in the series, you'd expect him to be. So whilst he's certainly not a bad driver he's more of a Gutierrez, than a Grojean.
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Yes, he is miles behind Vandoorne, who thanks to a dominant season is set to break all sorts of GP2 records by the end of the year. Rossi is also comfortably ahead of every other driver in the standings - many of which are in their second seasons - and it isn't exactly a field of mugs.

Given that Grosjean took about three or four years to stop both A) being slow and B) taking every other driver out before the first corner of a race, it's probably okay that Rossi doesn't compare to him.

The bottom line is he's replacing Mehri for the next five races, a driver who really isn't ready/good enough for Formula 1 anyway.
 
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GTP_Ingram
Rossi is second in this year's GP2 championship behind one of the most promising young drivers in the world, I think he's more deserving than most.
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Rossi is in his fourth or fifth year of GP2. He might be second to Vandoorne, but as has been pointed out, the points deficit is massive, and Rossi has twice the experience of Vandoorne. I work out a couple of weeks ago that where Vandoorne has a win ratio of about 40%, Rossi is closer to 4%. He's only really second because everyone else is inconsistent - if Sergey Sirotkin had started the season rather than joining halfway through, he would be the one challenging Vandoorne and the points deficit would be less.
 
Rossi is why America can't have nice things in Formula One it seems. He's about as useful as Maldonado, but with slightly less crashing and even less funding. He's going to be beaten by Stevens, someone I personally thought was the one that didn't deserve to be in F1, which will be a bit sad.
 
prisonermonkeys
Rossi is in his fourth or fifth year of GP2. He might be second to Vandoorne, but as has been pointed out, the points deficit is massive, and Rossi has twice the experience of Vandoorne. I work out a couple of weeks ago that where Vandoorne has a win ratio of about 40%, Rossi is closer to 4%. He's only really second because everyone else is inconsistent - if Sergey Sirotkin had started the season rather than joining halfway through, he would be the one challenging Vandoorne and the points deficit would be less.
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I've already pointed out that Vandoorne is in a league of his own. It's why he's competing for a seat at McLaren against Button and Magnussen, rather than one at Manor.

Vandoorne's win ratio in GP2 is 23.7%. That gives him the third best ratio behind Hulkenberg (25.0%) and Hamilton (23.8%). Rossi's win ratio is 4.2%, which is still better than Marcus Ericsson...

Sirotkin missed the first two rounds (four races), not half the season. Compare the two in the rounds that both have competed in, and Sirotkin has outscored Rossi, but only by 10 points.

Regardless of all that, my point all along is that he's arguably more worthy of a place in F1 than either of the Manor drivers (that isn't to say that there aren't other worthy young drivers too!) and I wouldn't be at all surprised if he's not at least matching Stevens' pace very soon.
 
GTP_Ingram
Yes, he is miles behind Vandoorne, who thanks to a dominant season is set to break all sorts of GP2 records by the end of the year. Rossi is also comfortably ahead of every other driver in the standings - many of which are in their second seasons - and it isn't exactly a field of mugs.

Given that Grosjean took about three or four years to stop both A) being slow and B) taking every other driver out before the first corner of a race, it's probably okay that Rossi doesn't compare to him.

The bottom line is he's replacing Mehri for the next five races, a driver who really isn't ready/good enough for Formula 1 anyway.
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With the exception of Vandoorne I strongly have to question the quality of the GP2 field. Go back a decade and many GP2 champions and race winners were coming through to make a splash. Think Rosberg, think Hamilton, think Glock, and Hulkenberg. Of course we still get GP2 drivers coming through occasionally but over the past few years, none of them have made an impact in F1.

And you're exaggerating with Grosjean. He was slow in 2009 during his ill-fated part season with Renault. But once he returned in 2012 he was very quick; even managing to qualify fourth at the first round. Now for pretty much the entire year that year he was a liability but by the beginning of 2013 had cleaned up his act, and only in Monaco did he have incidents. In fact throughout that season he proved himself a rather savvy racer.
 
Despite not at all being a fan of Rossi, I think this is great news. An American driver for the American GP, with a US team set to enter next year should definitely get some interest going stateside. The United States is one of the biggest "untapped" markets for F1, more interest means more sponsors will hopefully take a look at F1 which in turn will be good for the sport. Also, he should totally choose #46 :sly:


As for Rossi, he's in second place in one of the weakest GP2 fields ever. The only F1 calibre driver is Vandoorne, who has comfortably had the measure of everyone. Has Rossi impressed me? Not really, but he hasn't been terrible either. I rate him about on par with Chilton or Ericsson, who while unimpressive didn't disgrace themselves in F1.
 
prisonermonkeys
Rossi is in his fourth or fifth year of GP2.
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You've made it quite clear that you don't much care for Rossi, but I find much of your criticism to be unfair or unfounded.

He is not in his 4th or 5th year of GP2. His first year was 2013 and he missed the first race. He also had several retirements. And he still finished 9th and well ahead of his team mate.

In 2014, he switched teams after the first 5 races and then only ran one single race before becoming the Marussia reserve driver. And it should be pretty clear if you watched the 2014 season that the Carterham GP2 squad were going nowhere.

2015 is or will be his first full season in GP2, where he's running a strong 2nd. And if you want to compare it that way, he's had just three more races in GP2 machinery than Vandoorne.

I don't think Rossi is on Vandoorne's level. That should be clear. But then again, nobody in the field is. I think Stoffel has the potential to be another Alonso or Hamilton. But I've been watching Rossi's carrier since he was in Formula BMW, I've seen him race in person more than once and it's obvious that he's no slouch and he has real potential.

I don't think he's ever going to be world champion. But he's quick enough and savvy enough that if he finds himself in the right car, like Jenson Button, that he'll be able to capitalize on the opportunity and show his mettle. To say he's a poor driver is really over the top.
 
GTP_Ingram
Rossi is second in this year's GP2 championship behind one of the most promising young drivers in the world, I think he's more deserving than most. I can't think of anyone who needs to be replaced more desperately than Mehri, either - as I said in one of the other F1 threads recently, he's the worst driver in F1 this year, and arguably the worst in the last four or five.
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Wish people would stop running this inflated figure, you saying this is akin to someone having the argument "Well Pastor Maldanado is leading the 2010 GP2 title, so I think he's more deserving than most to drive F1".

jjaisli
You've made it quite clear that you don't much care for Rossi, but I find much of your criticism to be unfair or unfounded.

He is not in his 4th or 5th year of GP2. His first year was 2013 and he missed the first race. He also had several retirements. And he still finished 9th and well ahead of his team mate.

In 2014, he switched teams after the first 5 races and then only ran one single race before becoming the Marussia reserve driver. And it should be pretty clear if you watched the 2014 season that the Carterham GP2 squad were going nowhere.

2015 is or will be his first full season in GP2, where he's running a strong 2nd. And if you want to compare it that way, he's had just three more races in GP2 machinery than Vandoorne.

I don't think Rossi is on Vandoorne's level. That should be clear. But then again, nobody in the field is. I think Stoffel has the potential to be another Alonso or Hamilton. But I've been watching Rossi's carrier since he was in Formula BMW, I've seen him race in person more than once and it's obvious that he's no slouch and he has real potential.

I don't think he's ever going to be world champion. But he's quick enough and savvy enough that if he finds himself in the right car, like Jenson Button, that he'll be able to capitalize on the opportunity and show his mettle. To say he's a poor driver is really over the top.
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I'd say give the the young man in 3rd place a year or two more of experience under his belt like the top two runners have and he'll be as strong or more so than Vandoorne. The fact that he's running that close to Rossi with the fall backs he's had during the season that Rossi hasn't only goes further to the point. And yes @prisonermonkeys is wrong he doesn't have that many years in GP2, he probably said it due to the amount of years he spent in 3.5 and then GP2. Since 3.5 at times has been an equivalent or even better feeder series to GP2.
 
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I'm sure Button's going to WEC but not next year, he needs another chance since 2015 is a testing year for McLaren-Honda...
 
I hope KMag will be back in F1 with a drive at either McLaren or Haas. He made some great moves during 2014, one of them being the start of the Italian GP. Sure he also made bad moves, but some bad moves once in a while only makes the show more exciting.

Too bad Haas will probably grab Ferrari juniors, and McLaren already has got Alonso and Button.
 
Numolos
Too bad Haas will probably grab Ferrari juniors, and McLaren already has got Alonso and Button.
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Haas aren't limiting themselves to Ferrari drivers. As much as they want a technical partnership, they don't want to be completely indebted to Maranello. It's believed that they are currently talking to Magnussen.
 
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