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Aero Grip is the issue.

It used to be that all you needed for over taking was a long fast corner onto a long straight with heavy breaking at the end of it.

Aero grip means you can't closely follow a car though a fast corner, because of the aero loss, so you are too far behind when you get to the straight.

That's why Tike's tracks tend to have slow corners onto the straight and why they put a chicane at the end of the Catalunya lap.

It doesn't work, as pointed out it just spreads the field, and the fact that the teams used to cover many thousands of miles testing on it doesn't help either.
 
A new image of the Sochi circuit (although I don't think construction is this far along):

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Good how they've already tarmaced it. Maybe the diggers building the grandstands will put down some rubber on the track.

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I don't think anyone should jump to conclusions on how good or bad the track's going to be until we see the race. It was the same thing before Austin. Every one was so sure on how the track was going to drive based on layout alone. Even with details elevation map layouts, don't try "driving" the track in your head, just wait.

I think it looks interesting, more sweeping and flowing than most other new tracks for sure. The only thing is I hope the real track isn't as right angled as that U hairpin in the back there.
 
It's hard to see what the topography of it is going to be like but I'd be interested to see if the cars can follow each other around that big 'U' corner and if they'll be able to pass into the following corner.
 
Wardez
I think it looks interesting, more sweeping and flowing than most other new tracks for sure. The only thing is I hope the real track isn't as right angled as that U hairpin in the back there.
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No, that's real. The circuit was limited by the confines of the Sochi Olympic Park, and that corner is at the northern extremity of the Park.

It would probably be better if the cars didn't have to navigate that double chicane in the final sector, but that actually goes around the Park's train station, which existed before the Park was planned out (in fact, one of the reasons why the Olympic Park is being built where it is is becuse of the location of that station).
 
That right-hander looks to serve no purpose, but to give the advantage to the driver with the most downforce. Goodbye, driving talent, you've been replaced by Adrian Newey. :indiff:

Otherwise, win for Adrian Newey! :dopey:
 
New hints of a Mexican F1 GP in 2014:

FIA's VP, Jose Abed, has secured today that Mexico is ready to receive a Formula One race for 2014.

"We've got ready the blueprints to improve the 'Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez' and when all the changes have finished, we'll have F1 back in Mexico for 2014; Says Abed to mexican press.

Abed, Director of Mexican GP from 1986 to 1992, claim also than besides the rehabilitation of the Autodromo, an agreement with Bernie Ecclestone is needed

"required invest for the Autodromo rehab is around 20 millions dollars and the economical agreement with Ecclestone is around 30 millions dollars more".

In abed words, an Invest of this size -50 millions dollas- "is not that excessive considering the positive economical impact and exposure that a F1 GP Brings" and he recalled the economical gains in the previous Mexican GP era.

Abed recognize that the Circuit configuration and its proximity to Mexico City International Airport are good enough and "Best 'Autodromo' couldn't be found"

He anticipated that Mexican F1 GP would take place during September in 2014.

This year there are two mexicans competing in F1 Calendar: Sergio Perez in Mclaren, and Esteban Gutierrez in Sauber
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http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/news/story?id=1706214&s=mot&type=story
 
mastretta_mx
New hints of a Mexican F1 GP in 2014:
FIA's VP, Jose Abed, has secured today that Mexico is ready to receive a Formula One race for 2014.

"We've got ready the blueprints to improve the 'Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez' and when all the changes have finished, we'll have F1 back in Mexico for 2014; Says Abed to mexican press.

Abed, Director of Mexican GP from 1986 to 1992, claim also than besides the rehabilitation of the Autodromo, an agreement with Bernie Ecclestone is needed

"required invest for the Autodromo rehab is around 20 millions dollars and the economical agreement with Ecclestone is around 30 millions dollars more".

In abed words, an Invest of this size -50 millions dollas- "is not that excessive considering the positive economical impact and exposure that a F1 GP Brings" and he recalled the economical gains in the previous Mexican GP era.

Abed recognize that the Circuit configuration and its proximity to Mexico City International Airport are good enough and "Best 'Autodromo' couldn't be found"

He anticipated that Mexican F1 GP would take place during September in 2014.

This year there are two mexicans competing in F1 Calendar: Sergio Perez in Mclaren, and Esteban Gutierrez in Sauber
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http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/news/story?id=1706214&s=mot&type=story
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With the plane project for the new president cancelled, a lot more money than Mr. Abed said, will be saved (Roughly 850 million dollars), I can't see why the government could stop all of this (I hope they don't)
 
SagarisGTB
Not much new, but supposedly Bernie mentions Algarve as a potential replacement for Germany. It seems this "20th race" saga will never end.
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If Algarve - or another circuit; France is still believed to be interested - were to join the calendar, it would fill the vacant twentieth slot. It wouldn't replace Germany.
 
Just watched a lap of the circuit on YouTube. Seems like it would be a decent venue. There's a couple of good overtaking points and lots of elevation change. I wouldn't mind seeing the 20th race take place there.
 
I think it's unlikely to happen. Portugal was one of the PIIGS - Portugal, Ireland, Italy, Greece and Spain - and at the centre of the Eurozone debt crisis. Although Greece and Spain have dominated the recent proceedings on that front, the Portuguese economy is by no means stable.
 
prisonermonkeys
If Algarve - or another circuit; France is still believed to be interested - were to join the calendar, it would fill the vacant twentieth slot. It wouldn't replace Germany.
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Yeah, I meant to say New Jersey but somehow I typed out Germany. My mistake.

And yes, an F1 race in Portugal is still very unlikely. I just don't see who would bring in funding for the event. Local government is out of the question, so it would have to be private money. Which is possible, but I wouldn't bet on it. France is still the #1 most likely option for a 20th race, but at this point, the odds of a 19 race calendar keep rising.
 
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Anyone know when the calendar has to be 100% final, barring any cancellations? I'm surprised there is still a TBC (Germany) and TBA at the moment.
 
SimonK
Anyone know when the calendar has to be 100% final, barring any cancellations? I'm surprised there is still a TBC (Germany) and TBA at the moment.
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I don't think there is a deadline. It's whenever it's ruled that the circuit can't host the race. Heck I know Korea still had an asterisk next to it on the calender just a few weeks before the race. That blank spot on the 2013 calender could be there for a while.
 
astrosdude91
I don't think there is a deadline. It's whenever it's ruled that the circuit can't host the race. Heck I know Korea still had an asterisk next to it on the calender just a few weeks before the race. That blank spot on the 2013 calender could be there for a while.
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As did Bahrain in 2011 I believe.
 

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