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Wardez
Oh, and about RBR "favoritism" fears, that'll be easy to mitigate, just make Maranello the European GP and let them race :D
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Fiorano is basically a mini-Suzuka, so it's a big yes from me.

But really, lengthening the calendar? We've been starved of F1 racing this year and now in the middle of a ONE race in SEVEN weeks break/holiday and Bernie's next great idea is adding more races? Where exactly is this going to fit?

Or let's be honest, which race is up for the chop? Knowing Bernie it'll be a decent track like Australia or Suzuka or Spa...
 
JGreens
Or let's be honest, which race is up for the chop? Knowing Bernie it'll be a decent track like Australia or Suzuka or Spa...
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According to Wikipedia, the Japanese race hasn't got a contract for next year.
I know it's edited by anyone but no where else has confirmed otherwise regarding Japan.

If we had to drop one or two races to fit Russia/NY/Austria in the calendar I'd happily wave goodbye to the Korean and Indian races.

Korean is just boring, there's no one and nothing there, the track doesn't give much action either.
India's track is by far the worst on the calendar, it's an easy two part track, one part straights, the other twists and turns.
 
SVT Cobra GT
According to Wikipedia, the Japanese race hasn't got a contract for next year.
I know it's edited by anyone but no where else has confirmed otherwise regarding Japan.

If we had to drop one or two races to fit Russia/NY/Austria in the calendar I'd happily wave goodbye to the Korean and Indian races.

Korean is just boring, there's no one and nothing there, the track doesn't give much action either.
India's track is by far the worst on the calendar, it's an easy two part track, one part straights, the other twists and turns.
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Agreed, plus Vettel has led every lap he has been involved in at both these circuits, so it would remove the complete whitewash of these two races by the triple champion.
 
Jimlaad43
Agreed, plus Vettel has led every lap he has been involved in at both these circuits, so it would remove the complete whitewash of these two races by the triple champion.
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Couldn't of put it better myself. 👍
 
Jimlaad43
Agreed, plus Vettel has led every lap he has been involved in at both these circuits, so it would remove the complete whitewash of these two races by the triple champion.
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I'll echo that all day long! 👍

If Austria is definitely on the calendar next year I really hope they don't drop another European event for it. I would rather have the races we have now than swap one for Austria.
 
Jimlaad43
Agreed, plus Vettel has led every lap he has been involved in at both these circuits, so it would remove the complete whitewash of these two races by the triple champion.
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Wow, good thing you said that, else I totally would have wanted Korea and India off the calendar.
 
Korea was already on the hot seat before this announcement. I think that Spa is on a bigger hot seat though.
 
If we are going to go back to circuits that are fun to drive but poor to race on, I'd rather they go back to Imola - at least it made for some awesome qualifying battles from time to time.

 
Wardez
Certainly was fun to drive on according to the drivers, but that doesn't always make for good races of course. Nice and flowy old school circuit, would be cool to see it back for sure.
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I think it's the other way around. The circuit has produced some of the better DTM races in the last few years, but it's not particularly fun to drive. The first half of the course is long straights and awkward sharp corners (with overtaking spots) and then the second half is a nice little section of proper corners that is mostly single file. Overall it's not great, there's a reason it isn't as beloved as the old Osterreichring was.

T1 is also always a mess with crashes and drivers using the tarmac runoff.
 
Has anyone considered Sakhir being dropped for 2014? As someone has shown in another thread, its attendance rates are woeful.
 
Nope, how much money it makes Bernie tbh.

Anyway, having started watching F1 in 2007, I never got to know Austria so I've been watching some vids I could find, lets acquaint with what went before:

 
Surely, you mean the Österreichring? ;)





The A-1 Ring had the same lovely scenery, but they cut out most of the high-speed sweepers, shortened the track, and inserted 90-degree turns.
 
Wardez
One thing to note, it's pretty much the same exact length as Interlagos.
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Interlagos has some interesting and/or challenging corners though. Red Bull Ring has essentially 8 corners, none of them particularly interesting or challenging.
 
JGreens
I've always thought Sepang's T4 was a direct rip-off from A1's T2...
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Similar sure, but T2 at RBR is considerably tighter, slightly sharper and the incline in the braking zone is steeper. I don't know the designer's intentions, but there's more than enough difference between the two corners to not be a complete "rip-off".
 
Pupik
Surely, you mean the Österreichring? ;)

The A-1 Ring had the same lovely scenery, but they cut out most of the high-speed sweepers, shortened the track, and inserted 90-degree turns.
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Oh how I would have loved to see that still here. The old circuit for whatever reason still reminds me of the flow of Interlagos, mainly through the elevation changes, but its a shame it just wasn't safe enough then.

I still think one of those robots that follow lines on paper could have drawn something like the A1 Ring.
 
So, on hearing all this news about Russia, Mexico, now Austria, and such, one always lands on the question of "well, there would be too many races, so which tracks would go?"

People have speculated about the older European courses, then not so engaging events in the newer markets like Korea and India... and yeah, according to this, India may be on the chopping block:

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/07/29/motor-racing-india-idUKL4N0FZ1BI20130729
 
I kind of hope that's true.

India has been one of the worst races in the last two seasons, the track has no character and lacks flow, the only saving grace being long sweep of turn 10. It's just awful. I know most of the Tilke tracks are poor but Sepang and Istanbul Park are great tracks and even COTA is great.

I'd happily wave goodbye to India to bring in Austria if we have to drop races to bring new ones in.
 
Wardez
So, on hearing all this news about Russia, Mexico, now Austria, and such, one always lands on the question of "well, there would be too many races, so which tracks would go?"

People have speculated about the older European courses, then not so engaging events in the newer markets like Korea and India... and yeah, according to this, India may be on the chopping block:

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/07/29/motor-racing-india-idUKL4N0FZ1BI20130729
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That should piss off all those farmers from 2 years ago.
 
Yup, Indian GP is cut... for one year. No Buddh Circuit in 2014, but it will return in 2015.

Looks like F1's gonna be doing some resorting and needs India to take a break in order to do so. Maybe the Russian GP will only be for one year? Either that, or they're writing up a new agreement so they can have more races starting in 2015.

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2013/07/30/indian-grand-prix-to-skip-a-year-in-2014/

Bernie wanted to shift the Indian GP to earlier in the season to free up the Autumn slot for the Russian GP, grouping it together with China, Malaysia and Australia.
The organiser of the Indian GP doesn't want to/can't hold the event twice in the space of 6 months e.g. October 2013 then March/April 2014, therefore it will skip the year and return on the earlier date in 2015.
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LMSCorvetteGT2
Just great, I really think the states deserve two races, due to the sheer size yet this is annoying and we lose our second race.
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How many races do India and China each deserve? 7? 8?

The US has no teams, no drivers in F1 and pulls considerably smaller raw F1 television ratings than Hungary (a country of 10 million, US has 315 million). Why two races? Because the teams and sponsors want more business opportunities/exposure in the US? Sure, but it's the same with China and I don't hear anyone clamoring for a second Chinese race.

There's more than 20 countries wanting to host a GP and put moneys in Bernie's pocket. There's no need for any country to have two GPs, and if there was need it should probably go to Italy, Germany or the UK, the homes and breeding grounds of the sport. Two races in the US is akin to having two races in the UAE: all about money and nothing else.

Nevertheless, I'm curious about the New Jersey circuit, so I'd like to see it alternate with Austin, but I don't think that's going to happen.
 

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