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That track should not be part of the F1 calendar.

But yet it has produced some good racing in years gone by, as well as a high capacity crowd thanks to the dominance of certain drivers. Sure, it's different from the old circuit, but it's far more technically challenging and interesting in my opinionn. Do you have any justification at all as to why shouldn't it be on the calendar?
 
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But yet it has produced some good racing in years gone by, as well as a high capacity crowd thanks to the dominance of certain drivers. Sure, it's different from the old circuit, but it's far more technically challenging and interesting in my opinionn. Do you have any justification at all as to why shouldn't it be on the calendar?

That track is not ideal for F1, more like for small cars (ex:mazda mx-5... ex<<).
 
No, we'd like you to substantiate your posts with some actual content, rather than trying to change the subject. For example, you say the Circuit of the Americas has no place on the calendar. That's fair enough; you're entitled to your opinion. But given the circuit's relative popularity, people are curious as to why you feel that way. But instead of contributing to an actual discussion, you either try and change the subject, or go on the attack.
 
No, we'd like you to substantiate your posts with some actual content, rather than trying to change the subject. For example, you say the Circuit of the Americas has no place on the calendar. That's fair enough; you're entitled to your opinion. But given the circuit's relative popularity, people are curious as to why you feel that way. But instead of contributing to an actual discussion, you either try and change the subject, or go on the attack.

That hill for example (first straight) is ridiculous, that is already enough IN MY OPINION, now if you accept it or not is not in my interest.
 
Why is it ridiculous? Eau Rouge is steeper, and it is widely accepted that elevation and undulation are the keys to a successful circuit. Why do you think Shanghai, Bahrain, Abu Dhabi and Valencia have all proven so unpopular? It's because they are (largely) flat. So I can think of designs that are a whole lot worse than a sharp, blind-apex corner at the top of a steep climb.
 
I quite like the T1, the turns after it I'm not so keen on, due to the front runner/back marker situation that arises from it. Also I can't do them corners on F1 2013.
 
If a front runner encounters a backmarker and can't get past, then I would have serious questions as to what they are doing at the front in the first place. Lapping slower traffic is a skill.
 
Why is it ridiculous? Eau Rouge is steeper, and it is widely accepted that elevation and undulation are the keys to a successful circuit. Why do you think Shanghai, Bahrain, Abu Dhabi and Valencia have all proven so unpopular? It's because they are (largely) flat. So I can think of designs that are a whole lot worse than a sharp, blind-apex corner at the top of a steep climb.

Don't compare Eau Rouge with that hill...
 
Having drove COTA on iRacing, I must say I really dislike it. It feels like corners from a bunch of other circuits were copy/pasted together, there's just no flow. It just
lacks character.
It does produce decent racing though, I'll give it that. It should be interesting this year, with less rear grip it could be very tricky for the drivers.
 
If a front runner encounters a backmarker and can't get past, then I would have serious questions as to what they are doing at the front in the first place. Lapping slower traffic is a skill.
Well the first year we went there, Vettel got stuck behind one of the backmarkers allowing Hamilton to close up and overtake for first and ultimately the début win.
 
I don't mind COTA. Although the track's essentially the 'greatest hits of F1' so isn't going to be particularly stand-out it's nice that F1 has a place in America that it can stick to. Other than that, I'm not sure where else an American race could go now that NJ isn't going to be a thing. I like Long Beach as a track, but somehow I don't think it'd make for the best F1 location any more.
 
That hill for example (first straight) is ridiculous, that is already enough IN MY OPINION, now if you accept it or not is not in my interest.
So you want it to be a super flat track like the rest of the tilkedromes out there? I love COTA because of the elevation changes and the blending of different parts of tracks which to me makes it special. Would you like Spa, Monaco, Istanbul Park, Nurburgring GP and Nordschleife to be flat too? I hope not because it is the elevation changes that make those circuits much more interesting and exciting.
 
I don't mind COTA. Although the track's essentially the 'greatest hits of F1' so isn't going to be particularly stand-out it's nice that F1 has a place in America that it can stick to. Other than that, I'm not sure where else an American race could go now that NJ isn't going to be a thing. I like Long Beach as a track, but somehow I don't think it'd make for the best F1 location any more.

Is that official cause 2015 is still being claimed even after the first promoter fell through, the situation is confusing. I wish Watkins Glen was in form to be an F1 track again.
 
Bernie is saying a lot these days, like the other part of how he wants the field to only be 8 teams and those teams are to build 3 cars each. Which to me is quite stupid but hey, he's getting more outrageous with the sport, and it seems to be due to the trial. Should any of us worry that much...probably not.
 
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