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orimarc
Translation:

GIVE ME MORE MONEY!
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It's more likely that he's calling Luca di Montezemolo's bluff. Luca isn't happy with the state of the sport, and has been dropping anvils - "hints" implies subtlety, and subtle it is not - that Ferrari might join the World Endurance Championship, and that if they do, then they might leave Formula 1. He loves doing it because he knows he can manipulate public sentiment into agreeing with him.

I suspect that this is Bernie saying "if Ferrari doesn't need Formula 1, then Formula 1 doesn't need Italy". It's escalation, using Luca's own tactics as a double-edged sword against him. If Ferrari were to withdraw, then Bernie could abandon Monza and blame it on Luca, and Luca would have no response.

Ironically, Bernie and Luca agree on the state of the sport. But Bernie lost a lot of influence with the teams when he first opposed and then failed to stop the new engine regulations. Luca knows he can't do anything about the engines, and so has stepped up the rhetoric on sporting regulations. This is just Bernie trying to shoehorn him back into place. If there's going to be a backlash over the sport, it's going to be on Bernie's terms. But between the engine regulations and the bribery charges, Luca is searching for an opening.
 
Said this in another thread, but I'll repeat it. Bernie demands more money, he will get it. I will be completely stunned if Monza is dropped.

As far as COTA is concerned, I think it is okay. I would like it much more without the copy-pasted Hockenheim section.
 
ShiftingGears
Bernie demands more money, he will get it.
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When was the last time Bernie demanded more money, considering that most of the circuit contracts contain a rider that automatically makes the race more extensive year-in, year-out?

Silverstone, Sepang and Montreal were the last three circuits he publicly threatened like this, and he didn't want more money from them - he wanted them to upgrade their facilities. In the case of Montreal, the pits were thirty years old and desperately in need of refurbishments; as for Silverstone, the teams used to bring their own floors because rain virtually guaranteed that the garages would flood. If Bernie is stringing an axe up over Monza, he probably wants them to update something.
 
Alan Jones made an interesting comment on Monza in last night's pre-qualifying show - that it could be replaced by Mugello, to which he rather cynically commented is owned by Ferrari.
 
Mugello is a better circuit than Monza, but it's in a fairly remote mountain location, with only local access roads and smaller grandstands. It wouldn't have the same atmosphere as a race at Monza or Imola.

It also doesn't adhere to the same safety standards as Monza/Imola/Misano, I don't think. I would hate for Mugello to be turned into another giant parking lot the way Fuji and Spa have been transformed.
 
For one, I have no idea what Jones' source is for this. I haven't heard it anywhere else.

But Mugello was used for an in-season test in 2012. I remember Vitaly Petrov being very unhappy with the safety standards after he had a few high-speed moments because the Caterham wasn't producing enough downforce to take the corners at race speed.
 
prisonermonkeys
When was the last time Bernie demanded more money, considering that most of the circuit contracts contain a rider that automatically makes the race more extensive year-in, year-out? If Bernie is stringing an axe up over Monza, he probably wants them to update something.
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I should have precluded my comment with 'If'. The answer to the question you posed doesn't really interest me to be honest, the bottom line is that he uses every trick in the book to make the organisers dance to his tune.
 
I know there's been very quiet rumblings of the Russian GP possibly being cancelled due to what's been going on in that area of the world, and it's not completely related to F1, but the Porsche Supercup series won't be a support series for that weekend if the GP does in fact happen as they've changed from the Russian GP weekend to the Grand Prix of the Americas weekend instead.
 
The situation is simply far too delicate for anyone to be able to commit one way or the other. It remains to be seen as to exactly what Russia's involvement was - the implications, and by virtue of that, the consequences, will be wildly different depending on the role they played. If they only gave the separatists basic weapons and training, then they bear considerably less responsibility than if they gave the separatists the missile battery, training in how to use it, and intelligence on Ukrainian military flights in the region.

Right now, the smartest move will be to do and say nothing. The investigation is only just beginning, and with the world still wanting answers, it would be inappropriate for the sport to make some political or moral statement. The Australian government did just that, accusing Moscow of being complicit within hours of MH17 being shot down, for which the Russians criticised them - and they did have a point. Australia might have lost thirty-eight citizens and residents, but at the time of the comments, it had only just been established that the flight was shot down, it had not been established that Australians were on-board, and the Prime Minister provided no evidence in support of his claim.

So it wouldn't be appropriate for Formula 1 to do something similar.
 
Supercup apparently changed from Sochi to Austin about a month ago.

I don't see F1 abandoning the Russian GP unless something more serious happens, so the race is probably secure.
 
I think that unless it comes out that Russia is completely responsible for what happened that the race will go ahead. The rebels doing something off their own back, which I think is what sounds like happened, shouldn't be put on to Russia as a whole, but that's a debate for another thread. I think the race is safe, for now, but a reasonable amount of security wouldn't go a miss here.
 
GTPorsche
If they work the schedule properly, it should be Austin, then Mexico City, and then Brazil. Probably makes no difference overall for logistics for the teams, but geographically, it makes the travel "shorter" and without any need to backtrack to get to the next venue.
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With Canada before Austin
 
I get the feeling that Mexico being confirmed means New Jersey is being axed altogether. I could be totally wrong, but I just get the sense that they've abandoned it at this point.
 
Sam48
I get the feeling that Mexico being confirmed means New Jersey is being axed altogether. I could be totally wrong, but I just get the sense that they've abandoned it at this point.
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It's still planned as one of the 23 races for next year. I'd say there's a good chance that it won't make the final calendar.
 
Dude, you're in there, just buy the tickets, How expensive could a full weekend gp ticket cost for the GP? not more than 2500 pesos, if you're looking for the cheapest
 
Sam48
I get the feeling that Mexico being confirmed means New Jersey is being axed altogether. I could be totally wrong, but I just get the sense that they've abandoned it at this point.
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Oddly, I'd be okay with that, and I remember supporting it a lot when I first learned about it.
 
AJHG1000
Oh god it's happening!!!!!! Now I have a valid reson to save some money :D


:D :embarrassed: :cheers:

@JJLopez427 @MoLiEG @Cano @Coxis
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Blegh, I hate F1. Wake me when the ALMS comes or something.

I wouldn't go on my own, but I might be able to enter as media (:

If you people really gonna come to see this stuff please tell me so so I can at least go say hi, I live literally at a 7 minute walk from the Hermanos Rodriguez (:
 

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