The General Anime Thread...

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There is Front Wing's website. There are other places with better deals though.
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Speaking of VNs, I looked a bit into Grisaia and there's a Kickstarter by Sekai Project to bring the entire VN to the west. Sadly it doesn't release until October this year. Not that it's a bad thing.
I actually would like to try out this VN as well, finishing F/SN VN and all.
 
Yep. I think I mentioned that before. I've already gave them $80 for the whole trilogy. They're releasing a slightly adjusted SFW version.
 
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Yep. I think I mentioned that before. I've already gave them $80 for the whole trilogy. They're releasing a slightly adjusted SFW version.
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So is it worth waiting for it or just get the Japanese version and patch it?
 
I imagine the content won't be changed greatly, so getting it now isn't such a bad idea. The English patch is freeware.

It would be so awesome if we get a discussion going from this. :D


edit: Attack on Titan theme park

 
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Many thanks for the recommendations everyone, I'll be sure to check them out at some stage! :)
 
@Cano (and by proxy @SVX), if I were to try to list other anime that don't suck, I'd probably come up with:

  • Azumanga Daioh is hilarious (but the original 4-koma manga is honestly better, and Yotsuba&! is better than both of them)
  • Serial Experiments Lain, provided one doesn't go in expecting any sort of story that makes sense, or indeed, anything to make a great deal of sense.
  • Martian Successor Nadesico, mainly because of the inspired premise and some great one-liners.
  • Gurren Lagann and Kill La Kill are awesome and if you don't agree with me then WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK I AM?
  • The Haruhi movie is brilliant if one can put up with the 22 episodes of suck that precede it that one needs to have seen if one wants to understand the movie.
  • Welcome to the NHK can be really good at times but completely sucks at others.
  • I dunno, some of Tezuka's stuff or Miyazaki's pre-Ghibli stuff and probably something SHAFT did other than Madoka that I've forgotten about and some of Gainax's other stuff should probably be on that list too.
Yeah. Most anime sucks. Doesn't mean it can't be enjoyable, but anything on my original list on the previous page (and probably Ghost in the Shell considering how many people love it) isn't worth watching. Except Gurren Lagann. Gurren Lagann is worth watching.

Roger the Horse
Anything and everything Studio Ghibli have made.

Cowboy Bebop.

The Girl Who Leapt Through Time

Summer Wars

Wolf Children

Redline

Anything the late Satoshi Kon directed.

Death Note so long as one accepts that a lot of what's happening isn't really what's happening and is just Light's ego talking while he somehow lucks through everything.

Akira is just a film so one may as well watch it if they have the time.

Puella Magi Madoka Magica.

FLCL.

Don't watch Neon Genesis Evangelion unless you want to have to go through some sort of 12 Step programme afterwards.
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Aldnoah.Zero 2 ep. 3...

Inaho continues his swag in battle with a 3D Maneuver module in his cyborg eye. However, Slaine's Tharsis appears to be able to analyze future battle positions and attacks as Slaine effectively dodged many of Inaho's shots and predicted a point where Inaho might be positioned so he can checkmate him with a bombardment trap. But Saazbaum ended up in the trap, and dies at Slaine's hands. Killing your second father is pretty depressing, even if the father in question adopted his son just a few hours ago. Luckily for Slaine he succeeds Saazbaum and finally becomes somebody in the Vers Empire.

I'm thinking Saazbaum felt that Slaine shared the same ideas for the Empire, but pursued different methods. Now that Slaine gained Saazbaum's title, he'll march his way through the Empire with an actual amount of authority, continuing Saazbaum's legacy in a different manner, as he told Harklight. Additionally Slaine didn't kill Saazbaum not just because he can't forgive him for firing at Asseylum. He killed him so that Slaine won't be held back. With that, Inaho will actually face something that will be difficult to manage. Unless he pulls more OP right out of his... erm... eye. He already did some of it when Slaine spoke to the Empire via public broadcast.

Wow, this is starting to become a routine for me..
 
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Cano
And sadly, I haven't finished Gurren Laggan.
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Yours is a life unfulfilled. Whatever you do, don't make the same mistake @SVX.

There are other non-Gundam/Eva mecha series' worth your time, but Eureka Seven is all that comes to mind. Also make room for Nausicaä if you want some pre-Ghibli Miyazaki.

And then there's Black Lagoon... If you like swearing, 90s action movies, swearing, maids, guns, girls with guns, swearing, girls with guns swearing while killing neo-Nazis, etc.
 
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And then there's Black Lagoon... If you like swearing, 90s action movies, swearing, maids, guns, girls with guns, swearing, girls with guns swearing while killing neo-Nazis, etc.
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Oooh, that definitely tickles my fancy.

Thanks again guys. I'll have to put these all into a watch list so I make sure to watch them.
 
Eh... I'd recommend the Nausicaa manga over the movie, and it's not as accessible a starting point as Spirited Away or Porco Rosso or something.
 
Not trying to start a flame war here, but what's so charming about Miyazaki's works? I don't find too much special about them, though I do have to admit that they have good animation.
 
Not_A_Guest
Not trying to start a flame war here, but what's so charming about Miyazaki's works? I don't find too much special about them, though I do have to admit that they have good animation.
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You like harems and that stuff, so you cannot say much. Begone!
 
Not_A_Guest
Not trying to start a flame war here, but what's so charming about Miyazaki's works? I don't find too much special about them, though I do have to admit that they have good animation.
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Something I've noticed is that a portion of people's highly-placed thoughts on Miyazaki content is a bandwagoning opinion, believing something is good since plenty of others say so too. This is partially because of the set expectations and the fear of backlash should you not hold the same opinion. Evangelion is one example of it in this thread.

I recently watched Whisper of the Heart and I felt it wasn't mind-blowing. The way the story is told an the way characters are drawn hits me with nostalgia, and that definitely has played a positive influence on how I think of the film.


tl;dr: nostalgia, beautifully drawn scenery, bandwagoned opinions.

Do I think highly of Miyazaki's stuff for said reasons? Yes I do. Takes a lot of effort to identify the nuances in our mentality, but I can say without a doubt it's not an opinion I formed without external influence.

When you browse a bunch of forums to see how people express their preferences, favourites, etc, you'll start picking up what kind of people they are and consequentially how they process their thoughts.
 
Cano
You like harems and that stuff, so you cannot say much. Begone!
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Well that's salty. I like harems and I also like Cowboy Bebop and Madoka Magica and Evangelion's pretty cool too so I think I'm actually kind of normal. Think of it as a phase.

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Something I've noticed is that a portion of people's highly-placed thoughts on Miyazaki content is a bandwagoning opinion, believing something is good since plenty of others say so too. This is partially because of the set expectations and the fear of backlash should you not hold the same opinion. Evangelion is one example of it in this thread.

I recently watched Whisper of the Heart and I felt it wasn't mind-blowing. The way the story is told an the way characters are drawn hits me with nostalgia, and that definitely has played a positive influence on how I think of the film.


tl;dr: nostalgia, beautifully drawn scenery, bandwagoned opinions.

Do I think highly of Miyazaki's stuff for said reasons? Yes I do. Takes a lot of effort to identify the nuances in our mentality, but I can say without a doubt it's not an opinion I formed without external influence.

When you browse a bunch of forums to see how people express their preferences, favourites, etc, you'll start picking up what kind of people they are and consequentially how they process their thoughts.
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That seems about right. It's the reason why Disney can release a mediocre film every 10 years or so and get away with it...
 
Not_A_Guest
Well that's salty. I like harems and I also like Cowboy Bebop and Madoka Magica and Evangelion's pretty cool too so I think I'm actually kind of normal.
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*Sees disagreement, responds with conformational defense*

This is what I was getting at.
 
In a serious note about it, I think that if people talk well of Miyazaki's films and recommend them and stuff is because they've arned it. Even the worse Ghibli films can be looked at as very good movies. @AOS- used Whisper of the Heart as an example. I've watched it too and, while it's not even near the best stuff Ghibli has to offer, it is a very good movie. If you throw yourself butt-first into Ghiblidom expecting award-winning quality off every movie, you're in for an awakening. Not rude, but you will notice not all movies have the same mistique and quality to them, but even so, most Ghibli movies offer waayyyyyy more than most animated films, anime or not.
 
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This is what I was getting at.
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Yeah I can understand it and be a part of the party too :P
Whether that's good or bad is a wholly different problem.

Ghibli's certainly not terrible but sometimes I find the hype a little blown up, that's all. I get it now.
Still better than Gen Urobuchi's Booty Chronicles.
 
So, my watch list has been completed:

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And my watched list. :lol:

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Cano
In a serious note about it, I think that if people talk well of Miyazaki's films and recommend them and stuff is because they've arned it.
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Perhaps in the case of Miyazaki, but it's not always like this. An easy example: K-ON. Tons of fans, tons of positive recommendations. Do you think they earned it?

To me, K-ON's popularity thrives off its widespread marketing and OTT fandom rage widespread word-of-mouth of K-ON's existence. That's how mediocre content gets its rankings to equal well-written shows or films. So in the vast world of discovering anime on the internet, distinguishing the bad from the good (under the context of exploring new media) can prove to be a challenge when you're browsing thousands of opinions, either through user posts, "reviews", and rankings on numerous sites.

So yeah, I'd have no problem coming back to rewatch a Miyazaki film to reassess how I feel about its quality, just so I can get a sense of whether I can still agree with the populace. Laputa was great in that it envisioned a fantasy land I'd like to live in, but that's skewing my perspective and it wouldn't do any good to make an unbiased judgement.

While I enjoy that mystique you speak of (unexplored new world, yet still earthly and natural), I almost feel that's largely because of the idealize fantasy world that's been in-grained in the minds of the older generation. I'll bet you the idealization of a fantasy world of later generations won't be anything like the worlds Miyazaki has come up with.




edit (because I took so long to write this post): K-ON on that list made by a newcomer. What'd I tell ya?

@SVX Dawg, use MyAnimeList. :lol:
 
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Perhaps in the case of Miyazaki, but it's not always like this. An easy example: K-ON.
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Did you really just compare Ghibli stuff with that crap? Come on dude. There is no way in hell a logical analogy 'tween the two things can be done. Almost not even of the people that watch them.
 
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edit (because I took so long to write this post): K-ON on that list made by a newcomer. What'd I tell ya?
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Oh, I wasn't really recommended it due to quality - I just kind of fancy Akiyama Mio so it was suggested I watch the anime, much the same with Chuunibyou.

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@SVX Dawg, use MyAnimeList. :lol:
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Wait, so there's a website I can use? :dunce:
 
Ghibli at its worst.
http://myanimelist.net/anime/10029/Kokurikozaka_kara

Thanks Goro Miyazaki!
(Overall it's barely decent.)

Also slow down on the recommendations, you're going to overwhelm them. BTW, if I may chime on them, did we seriously forget to recommend Code Geass of all shows?
SVX
Wait, so there's a website I can use? :dunce:
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Yeah, there's various anime listing sites out there, MyAnimeList, Anime-Planet, AniDB, Hummingbird, Anilist, and some others, but the most well-known and used by far is MyAnimeList or MAL for short. It has the simplest interface. If you're going to be watching quite a bit of anime (Especially at the same time), it's highly recommended you use one of these to keep track of everything.

A list on MAL looks like this (Mine is too large for the All Anime tab to work anymore).
http://myanimelist.net/animelist/BigOnAnime&status=2&order=0
 
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Did you just say that From Up On Poppy Hill is "barely decent"?

And no, Howl's Moving Castle was Ghibli at its worst.
 
@SVX, firstly, you wont be able to watch that many anime without either going mad or losing all trace of a social life or whatever.

Secondly, you should remove Kokoro Connect, K-On, exorcise the bit of paper that had K-On written on it, remove A Certain Moe What Is This Tavern, remove A Certain Why Is This A Thing, remove Kami-sama no Memo-cho (whatever that is), remove Bokuwa Tomadachi Whatever, only watch series two of Full Metal Panic!? (it's subtitled Fumoffu), change Alucard to say Hellsing because that's what it's actually called (and are you talking about watching the original Hellsing or Hellsing Ultimate? I'm not a Hellsing expert so you may want to look into that), remove Gosick, remove Toradora, remove Haruhi Suzumiya, and remove Welcome to the NHK until you've managed to get through everything else remaining on that list and know how it feels.

Then you should be left with a decent anime watch list.

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When it comes to Ghibli, basically everything Hayao Miyazaki has directed has been excellent, with the exception perhaps of The Wind Rises and Howl's Moving Castle if you're being harsh. The rest of it doesn't generally reach such heights, all though I haven't seen all of their stuff so I can't really say.

I watched Pom Poko last night. Entertaining film, if completely mad, but certainly no masterpiece. Whisper of the Heart is very, very good for what it is, and The Cat Returns is a wonderful little spin off to that. Grave of the Fireflies is excellent but overrated. I'm not sure if I've seen any other Ghibli films, to be honest.

Laputa: Castle in the Sky is my favourite film, and I love My Neighbour Totoro too; however, Spirited Away has that Disney-esque feel to it that means it's the one that gets recommended most highly by me. Yeah. Ghibli is Ghibli. They're consistently good, occasionally superb, and easily a cut above any other animation studio that isn't Pixar, who were rather influenced by Ghibli anyway.
 
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Did you just say that From Up On Poppy Hill is "barely decent"?

And no, Howl's Moving Castle was Ghibli at its worst.
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Yes I did. Miyazaki's son isn't too good at directing. I had high hopes for it when I blind-bought the BD almost a year ago and, I struggled to like the movie at times, and it didn't really flow too well, especially towards the end.
 

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