The Graphics

Discussion in 'Gran Turismo Sport' started by citroengt1, May 22, 2016.

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Graphics quality, what do you think?

  1. It will probably rise.

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  2. It will probably stay the same.

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  3. It will probably fall.

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  4. I don't care that much about the graphics.

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  5. (added one response to much, sry.)

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  1. citroengt1

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    I just pointed what stood out from other photos offered from the PD.
    I don't think anything bad from that comment, even if i does look that way.
     
  2. CoolColJ

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    Damn the above version compared to recent footage is like night and day :O

     
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  3. andrewz

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  4. GordonS

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    ^ Please use better quality picture. That hurts eyes.
     
  5. Griffith500

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    They might still be exploring anti-aliasing options whilst finalising some of the shaders and effects, there are plenty to choose from these days.
     
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  7. andrewz

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    You mean those bullshots? No, I care about in-engine visuals. And this is in a garage with two cars. What you see there is unexcusable.

    Well, the level of aliasing is comparable. But there is a difference of generation in hardware. Shame.

    Are you sure that the 3D image in the background is not upscaled? UI seems fine.
     
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  8. GranTurismo guy

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    there is no way that it will look like that on release.
     
  9. eran0004

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    Your picture isn't in-engine visuals though. You've scaled it up 300% and compressed it.
     
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  10. andrewz

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    I loved the progress in visuals GT5P made and I believed that GT5 will look even better. But what actually happened? Visuals got worse. I lost my hope in PD. They even seem to struggle with new hardware architecture. They are not used to x86-64.

    IT IS in-engine. Or does it come from Maya? No. Yes, I upscaled it for people with poor sight/high density screens. What I doubt about is that the game runs in native 1080p. Look how distorted the gameplay images are.
     
  11. Soundtrack

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    Would be surprising Brand Central was using that much resources for PD not being able to implement some AA at a later build/stage.
     
  12. GranTurismo guy

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    Is this a result of you having not seen the countless screenshots and direct, uncompressed gameplay, or are troll infused posts just fun?
     
  13. andrewz

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    Is there some "direct and uncompressed" gameplay videos that will change my mind? All I saw was an official gameplay YouTube video.
     
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  16. eran0004

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    It was in-engine. But then you decided to upscale it by 300%, which distorts the information.

    And it is 1080p, count the pixels if you don't believe it. If it was rendered at a lower resolution and then upscaled you'd not be able to see each pixel as clearly as you can with the original image (not the one that you decided to upscale, because that is all blurry thanks to how you upscaled it).

    Here is a closeup on the mirror in the original picture (scale 1200%):

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    Here's a closeup on the mirror in your picture (scale 400%):

    mirror2.png

    Here is the mirror in the original image at 100% scale:

    mirror3.png

    Here is the mirror in your image at 100% scale:

    mirror4.png

    So you grabbed a picture from the game, but since you scaled it and compressed it it's no longer a good representation of the game's graphics.

    What gameplay images are distorted, and in what manner?
     
  17. Toysuprahot

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    Ignore.
     
  18. Tassie_tiger

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    Mine's a 2015 model.
    Nah nah na nah nah. :p

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    :lol:

    But yes, that image is a shocker.
    That particular, individual image.
    The weight of evidence is clearly against that being the norm though.

    And considering it's mid June, I think we'll be okay.
     
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  19. andrewz

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    Thanks guys. Based on the 3 GB video, I believe it is a native 1080p. Antialiasing seems to be effective only in replays though.

    I did not complain about compression artifacts, but the quality of engine rendering. Here you have uncrompressed PNG from original JPEG, enlarged to the same size, but with bicubic interpolation. It is still clear that the picture has reserves regarding quality. If you have large Full HD TV, you will definitely notice that.

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    edit: fixed image size

    In overall, I'm pretty disappointed with GTS visuals. I would not believe in 2010 that I will say that, but I can't help myself: Forza 6 looks the same or maybe better in some terms. At least, GTS looks inconsistent at the moment and I'm skeptical it will get better on the same hardware (PS4K finally could make it look sweet?). Nonetheless, the way pCARS render bodyworks on PC is even one level further and no Sony magicians, even in Polyphony Digital, can beat that. Where are the days of GT5P?
     
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  20. sems4arsenal

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    AA in the latest videos looks improved in the car selection screens. also I'm sorry but Forza doesn't look close to what they're showing now.
     
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  21. MrWaflz55

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    Changed my vote from "stays the same" to "rises" because it did in the newest gameplay videos, the replay videos look even better now too.
     
  22. citroengt1

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    How about shadow placements?
    I always disliked how the space where the wheels are is always lighten up,
    including inside the rims of the wheels.
     
  23. FoRiZon

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    Roflmao. Cant believe people judge the visuals based on a horribly compressed screenshot.
     
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  24. gtracedriver1

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    lol have you seen the HD videos from the official site. It looks nothing like this pic.

    I think it is a big jump from PS3. This is from reveal event from London and is not having updated track textures from E3 build:
     
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  25. citroengt1

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    Makes me feel kinda ashamed that i doubted the graphics from the first trailer.
    That change in the video looks amazing!
     
  26. Toblakai99

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    I am sure they gonna improve there aa method but don't expect no jaggies because that's not gonna happen.I will take a few jaggies here and there if it means a more consistent framerate.
     
  27. SimTourist

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    You picked the worst image possible for GT5 Prologue, it wasn't that jaggy. Plus remember that it was almost 10 years ago, I don't see much progress.
     
  28. Tassie_tiger

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    You don't see much progress between the graphics of GTS vs GT5P?
     
  29. SimTourist

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    Not in the images provided.
     
  30. Tassie_tiger

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    Reasonable call.

    But the other graphics you have seen?
     
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