The " I want a livery editor" thread.
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Fictional stuff can do the job if you have no time to license teams. PD have tons of models with a single skin. That just doesn't make sense.
About fictional stuff here's my
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- Leiria
After seeing this amazing form of art, I want desperately a livery editor. I've never touched any form of a livery editor, so I'm giving a shot in the dark of what to expect and although I'm thinking I'll be an amazing artist hidden from my art, I'll probably be rubbish... 
So bring the editor on
So bring the editor on
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- SZRT_CIC_Ice
After seeing this amazing form of art, I want desperately a livery editor. I've never touched any form of a livery editor, so I'm giving a shot in the dark of what to expect and although I'm thinking I'll be an amazing artist hidden from my art, I'll probably be rubbish...
Not necessarily true. The funny thing about being a good vinyl editor, is that it's a lot like being a great racer. It takes practice. The more practice you put into it, the better you get and the better your results. You may spend a quick 5 laps trying to attack a hot lap and be done with it because it's just too challenging to achieve. But if you're determined enough, and it means that much to you, you'll be attacking that track for hours on end to you demolish that hot lap 100 times over. Well, the same goes if you care to get your car the way you wish.
The point is to FINISH THE CAR no matter how horrible it comes out. FINISH IT!!! Then do another one and FINISH IT AGAIN. One will be better or worse than the other, but you will learn from each mistake, as you did from the one before it. Just as you learn how to improve from lap to lap through each corner, learning how to shave time, slice a corner, and use late breaking...
Tricks of the trade get picked up along the way, and you'll connect with people "like me" who can offer you tips and help you mold and shape your style. If you do some fine tuning and make some adjustments you'll eventually get out of it what you wished for as long as you're willing to put in some effort. Inevitably allowing you to create something awesome, unique, and all your own.
HKS racer
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I have a little advice for new painters: keep sponsor dimension to a realistic size. Most of time, earily works have way too big sponsor decals, the most common mistake. Take a real race car photo as reference. About the design start with something like stripes or two tones. Do not try to make something like the BMW art car on the first run 
You need to be rewarded from your effort. Look here's an example of the perfect 1st livery attempt http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=30382 As you can see it's just a simple 2 tone scheme, but it can looks good and realistic. Doesn't take many skills just some patience and taste.
You need to be rewarded from your effort. Look here's an example of the perfect 1st livery attempt http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=30382 As you can see it's just a simple 2 tone scheme, but it can looks good and realistic. Doesn't take many skills just some patience and taste.
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- The Netherlands
Actually it's much more than that, each NASCAR version in GT5 (by which I mean cars from the same brand, let alone from brand to brand) has an incredibly detailed interior which is completely different from car to car (by completely different I mean the sort of differences usually only found in cars from different brands) as they're all accurate replica's of the real interior differences found in NASCAR.
Whether that's was actually necessary (considering most just seem to assume it's simply a case of different liveries and nothing more so they don't even notice or appreciate the insane level of effort put into them) if instead they could've added one version of each brand (and only 3 interiors to model instead of, what 22? with the later added ones as well) with a livery editor when available is debatable I guess (I sure enjoy the variety offered in cockpit view that's for sure), especially given interiors take so long to model, the relative high amount of NASCAR cars compared to the limited Premium list, and again that it seems an effort largely wasted on the majority anyway.
Think I'd have settled for 3 NASCAR cars and a few more other Premium cars as a result but if the license agreement indeed included having to include all these cars (or a select field of current cars), they'd have no other option than to include them accurately (and which is a hell of a lot more than applying the correct livery on the outside with cockpit view added).
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- FOXIOL
Exactly, that´s why I said that PD should get licences from basic cars. Racing cars from brands like BMW, Mercedes Benz, Audi, McLaren and I think everyone...can be bough in a basic package...then you customize it as you wish.
For example, the MB SLS AMG GT3 GT3 basic car can be bought for 400.000€ (which is the one we are going to get in GT6), then each team can add whatever they are allowed to add for the competition, that´s why each car has minor differences.
But if they do this with all GT cars (Ferrari 458 Italia GT3, McLaren MP4 12C GT3, Lamborghini Gallardo GT3, BMW Z4 GT3...etc) without licencing the league itself and by adding and giving us the livery editor WE can create our own leagues with out liveries.
And that is the real deal about liveries...we can make real ones from real cars OR our own.
Like RM cars in GT5...if we had a livery editor those cars could have a better use for sure. But they gave us a number and change colour only...
They need to be smart while applying licences into the game. If they get each licence for each car...it will be expensive and at the same time we possibly can´t get a full grid of that particular class.
And finally...one car "easy" to model without having to worry about the little details of the others which are the same but from a different team.
We won´t care really if you think about it. But it is also cool to have a particular car.
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- Under your bed.
- Ask me, man.
And here, you were the one who was making the case for the Livery Editor a few days ago. You're getting to be even more bipolar than me.
Say what? lol
No, I want a livery editor very much. I can see myself in GT Auto, spending hours on one car's design, just like I did with Midnight Club.
What I was saying is that it hurts me to see these lovely designs because we'll likely not have this in a GT title. Maybe I'm trying to protect my conscience through all of this, maybe not.
I just hope KY's "technical possibility" claim becomes a technical achievement.
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- Tetsumura
- Nigel Fox
Good advice here. The Ferrari example he posted is a good one, because the basic livery pattern itself is a lot like what we got in GT5. What makes it look more like an actual race car is the race car-like placement of decals and the number plate he used. The overall effect is much more authentic than PD's, which seem more like cars from a "renegade" start-up team.
I also want to echo what Foxiol said above. PD needs to try and acquire as many racing cars and liveries as possible, and represent as many leagues and types of racing as possible. The X Bow needs the Ariel Atom to race against, not just the Caterham for instance.
CorvetteConquer: my prayer as well.
In fact, Sunday's experiment was so addicting, I'm going to spend some time in Forza 4's Livery Editor rather than race and paint up a few more cars. Like a fool, I decided to try my hand at racing again, and it wasn't pretty and it wasn't fun, and I think I've finally had it with Forza. But creating race cars in it is pure chewing satisfaction.
First, I have to brush up on the various FIA and American GT Classes...
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This thread is making me wet my lips...so lovely...
No livery = joke game.
No livery = joke game.
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- HamiltonMP427
I wouldn't go that far, it would just mean that GT don't really want to be a serious racing sim, and are in fact a "driving game only" that just happens to have race cars and lapped races....
I agree with you though PD makes no sense many times.
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I wouldn't go that far, it would just mean that GT don't really want to be a serious racing sim, and are in fact a "driving game only" that just happens to have race cars and lapped races....
I agree with you though PD makes no sense many times.
I think Kaz is so obsessed with the physics...that the gaming aspects, the fun aspects of his games, have been erased from his mind.
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- Canada
Actually. Even without the livery editor, I say the new upgraded course maker and more customization is more than the enough fun for me at least imo.
I just want a GT and Enthusia in one game. If we did get one however, well, who knows.
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- HBR-Roadhog
- HBR Roadhog
While livery would be nice the game is about much more than a livery and if that is what makes a game for you perhaps you would have more fun playing with photo shop than a Driving Simulator.
It would be a joke game if it moved the focus to liveries rather than simulation
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- GTP_Spag69
- spagetti69
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- TEAM-SWD-daus26
Wow. GT really does need liveries debuting at one point or another. The days where we have to depend on Racing Modification is long gone. Well they could still offer us exclusive body kits. The RM in GT5 were mostly simple. It felt like it needed some good livery editing.
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- HamiltonMP427
Darn you racecar now I want a Twix...shame.
- 22,550
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- HamiltonMP427
Or the cars that will show babies getting their heads bit off an all the other inane bullcrap that certain people on here are saying.
Same could easily be said to you if you think a over the top photo system, has anything to do with racing. It's ironic you mention to him photoshop, when all the photo system does is act as a overdone photoshop.
Also no one is really saying that GT should be livery oriented only, and you can't use that one persons comment as evidence. Corvette is basically saying that if PD can't get even a simple kit in there, to even further promote "simulator" quality, like you've said. Then what is the point, they gave the ability to a very limited degree but was allowed, back in GT2 in the form of the original RM. It seems Kaz would rather us gawk at the cars the recreate via console, and even knowing or having implemented a system that hides such "beauty" should be frowned upon.
Unless you have evidence to prove that then, no and we haven't been given any concrete evidence that proves it as far as I've seen on GTP. What you are referring to is the added wheels, aero packages and the paints (from GT5 that we all had and more) as custom cars.
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- oOJ-KiLLA240o
I think what he was referring to was when Kaz mentioned we'll be able to customize our cars (add wheels, aero ect.) then in a separate sentence mentions we'll be able to personalize our cars. Still, this obviously doesn't confirm anything.
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- Johnnypenso
Since PD is all about trying to force you to play the game more often, you'd think they'd be into the livery editor. It's something to do that doesn't involve driving, something to do when you don't want to fire up the sound system and plug in the wheel. I am severely colour blind and don't have an ounce of style in my body, but I'm sure I'd spend hours putting cars together to try and recreate my business logos, stuff to commemorate the fam damily etc.
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- New York
- SZRT_CIC_Ice
THIS!
I have been thinking about this lately, and was considering starting a pole on it. However, I am concerned with getting seriously flamed for it. My question would be this...
"What Feature Is Your GT6 Purchase Based On?"
Livery/Vinyl Editor (A full Livery Editor that allows you to create your own vehicles)
Tracks (Old and new, real and original/fantasy)
Customization (Bodykits, Racing Modifications, Rim Customization)
Sounds (Engine, Tire, Crash, Etc)
Tuning (Tire Pressure/Air Pressure, Tire Width, Rim Size, Engine/Drivetrain Swapping, Nitrous, etc.)
GT6 is Perfect as is, I'm already sold.
I'm a diehard GT fan and self admitted fanboy, and I will get GT6 regardless of it's included or dismissed features.
What do you guys think?
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- Tetsumura
- Nigel Fox
Samus, unless I'm completely losing my reading comprehension skills, this thread is full of not-free passes. You however really can't pass up an opportunity to trash a certain game franchise, and the people who like it, can you.
Anyhow, I wanted to give a shout out to RACECAR. If you'll notice, one of his NASCAR Camrys has a livery that seems eerily familiar. And in fact, my Silvia race car was inspired by that very image he posted, and I had a blast creating my own variation of it.
This is one of the good things about the Forza community, because there are a bunch of race modders and car artists who will do a livery for you, or steer you to a gallery of race cars to inspire you... all kinds of things. This is what GT6 needs.
And I need to eat and unfortunately, face that horrendous Forza driving model, because I'm going to have to grind some races in order to afford all the cars and upgrades I want - and it's probably going to grind me right back. Oy... if only GT5 had a real race mod and livery editor...
Anyhow, I wanted to give a shout out to RACECAR. If you'll notice, one of his NASCAR Camrys has a livery that seems eerily familiar. And in fact, my Silvia race car was inspired by that very image he posted, and I had a blast creating my own variation of it.
This is one of the good things about the Forza community, because there are a bunch of race modders and car artists who will do a livery for you, or steer you to a gallery of race cars to inspire you... all kinds of things. This is what GT6 needs.
And I need to eat and unfortunately, face that horrendous Forza driving model, because I'm going to have to grind some races in order to afford all the cars and upgrades I want - and it's probably going to grind me right back. Oy... if only GT5 had a real race mod and livery editor...
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You're right, it may not be a joke game without it, but I'd still call Kaz a joke creator. 💡
Now that Kaz is trying to further enhance the online functions of online-play (community/club/events online), it's the perfect time to add a livery editor.
Like Kaz has stated, and I hate to quote the man now-a-days, but: it's a 'technical possibility". My response. Make it a technical priority. Make it a technical achievement.
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- spagetti69
And I need to eat and unfortunately, face that horrendous Forza driving model, because I'm going to have to grind some races in order to afford all the cars and upgrades I want - and it's probably going to grind me right back. Oy... if only GT5 had a real race mod and livery editor...
What is this? Your crusade is becoming obsessive. Lol. Funny guy.
