The "I'd rather blow my brains out than race that track" thread.

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Why? This is one of my personal favorites, I have never, ever understood the people who dislike this track. I would like to see why you don't like it.
If you don't like it, I assume you can't drive it.
Reason it is in my favorites is that there is lots of straights and corners for different speeds.

Its more like 95% straights and 5% corners thats the reason it is disliked or liked..

It is the opposite of Nordschleife, where the driver makes all the difference and has one big straight to relax.

You cant do much wrong in la sarthe, there is a huge bumpy long boring straight and a chicane at the end of it, and it repeats again, and then you get some fast corners and chicanes with big tarmac run of areas.

makes me think they got the name of the track wrong, Ls straight or La chicane for the respective variations sounds more interesting :D



other not so fun tracks
GP-D
Tokyo
some cape ring variations

yeah and when someone makes a long track )from 2-3min upwards to complete) in the track editor and calls it fantastic, and puts it online :banghead:



















 
Deep Forest, Trial Mountain, Cape Ring (all configurations), Cote d'Azure (play F1 2010 to see what that should really look like).
 
Top Gear Test Track. Great for free running, horrible for racing.

AMEN......the WORST possible track to race online -___-

then fuji -__- its just an awful awful awful track, all future race-track designers should study fuji and then do the EXACT opposite

and then..............theres.................CAPE RING :sick:

WTF?!?! were PD thinking when the made this....i mean literal jumps, a corkscrew, 20 million turns........they should have just kept the Complex String from in GT3
 
Jbbubba
Deep Forest gets a wee bit too technical in the middle of the course for me, where one mistake can throw off your whole lap, in addition to there being a very small line between hitting that rock formation at the start of the back straight and speeding by without so much as a glance.

^This is why I won't race at Deep Forest.

The small line between hitting that rock formation is way too small of a line. I know it's racing and the driver has to figure out the correct line but every single car I seem to drive through that corner, understeers right into that damn rock! I've managed to understeer the very tail-happy Ruf Yellowbird into that rock. So annoying!

I've tried different lines through that turn. I've tried it slow. I've tried it fast. I've tried it tight. I've tried it wide. I always end up with my bumper or my door in that rock.

Maybe it's just the way I tune my cars to make them work on every other track.
 
^This is why I won't race at Deep Forest.

The small line between hitting that rock formation is way too small of a line. I know it's racing and the driver has to figure out the correct line but every single car I seem to drive through that corner, understeers right into that damn rock! I've managed to understeer the very tail-happy Ruf Yellowbird into that rock. So annoying!

I've tried different lines through that turn. I've tried it slow. I've tried it fast. I've tried it tight. I've tried it wide. I always end up with my bumper or my door in that rock.

Maybe it's just the way I tune my cars to make them work on every other track.

Lol it's really not that bad man. I'm happy to show you a line through there if you'd like. I NEVER hit that wall unless I'm spinning out.
 
The fact that London isn't on most people's list make me think people need to their head checked... along with listing actually decent tracks.

But here's my list:
London - Hate this track, would nuke London 5 times just to see it never return in the next game.
Fuji - Love the old, 90's ones; hate the new, modern one with the stupid redesign.
Top Gear Test Track - Someone -always- have to vote this track in GT5 online, always, a flat, boring mix of corners and cones in an attempt to test economy cars and supercars alike, often with celebrity appearances.
 
For me it has to be the ring , I suck at it so bad I could sell my services for $15.
London is another pet hate of mine , obviously one for smaller cars and not the LM cars I love.
 
-> After I created the >Missing< Tracks thread; lately, I've been feeling sour on most GT5 tracks of yore.

Namely:

#5 High Speed Ring '00s
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[Since GT4]
^ Isn't as much fun to go around in compared to HSR '90s of GT1 & GT2. Wanna see?

High Speed Ring '90s


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#4 Special Stage Route 5 '10s & Clubman Stage Route 5 '10s
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[Since GT5]
^ A true depiction of the term Ghost Town, this track is so lifeless its not even funny anymore! I want my SSR5/CSR5 '90s back!!! Proof?

SSR5 '90s [GT1] and GT2*
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SSR5 '90s [GT3]
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SSR5 '90s [GT4]
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SSR5 '10s
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#3 Special Stage Route 7
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^ Proof that an incompletely-developed (aka. unfinished) track should not be included. Just drive along and you will see. What a waste of useless effort, SSR11 series would be a better choice.

:yuck:

#2 Fuji Speedway F & GT
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[Since GT4]
^ Ugh! If PD didn't ruin Rome's track, this would be my top list. This track has no racing flow/rythim whatsoever! Its a mangled mess!!!

:scared:

#1 Nuovo Rome ('New' Rome)
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[Since GT5]
^ Why oh WHY (as my user detail states)!!!??? Is it just because of a certain landmark? Is it the way the track looks overall? Is it the elevation changes? Is it the unique road surfaces? Unfortunately only PD knows the reason. GTP wants the old Rome Circuit '90s back! This track is a poor excuse of a replacement to the '90s track!!!

The Awesome Rome Circuit '90s track (in red) & the epic fail Nuovo Rome track (in blue)
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©SHIRAKAWA Akira

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Finally, I liked the simplicity of the older circuit.

Original circuit
 
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I dislike London, meaningless little track with unappealing cornering. I don't mind city tracks as they can be fun with the right car (like Madrid, terrible in some cars, great fun in others), but London is just meh.

I also don't care much for SS5 and especially the clubman stage. Boring, always thought it was among the worst of the original GT circuits, and I don't understand why it's survived every GT while better tracks were killed off.

And then there's Cape Ring, which I flat out despise. I think it's the worst circuit PD have ever made. It feels like it's taken from a Ridge Racer game. I cringe when I see an event coming up where I have to race it, and I stay well clear of it anywhere else. Thinking about how they could've spent their time on tracks like Seattle, Apricot Hill or even Spa-Francorchamps in an ideal world, but instead chose to create this god-awful chunk of road, I want to cry tears of blood.
 
Tsukuba!!!

Isn't it interesting that their is a 4hr AND a 9hr Endurance at that track!!!

Struck me as well. Of all the tracks in the game that they could have had two enduros on (apart from the 'Ring, which deserves it), why on earth Tsukuba?

Given the introduction of NASCAR in GT5, surely including the Daytona 500 instead of one of the Tsukuba enduros would have made more sense?
 
The Top Gear track is ****e, also SS7 (why not nardo?) and Madrid, absolute ****e.
I want Seattle back...
 
The bad:👎

Yet another vote for Fuji - boring long straight, a couple of so-so corners and then that HORRIBLE tight end section that feels grafted on from another track. Uninspired and incoherent.:yuck:

London - too many right-angle corners and too cramped. Probably doesn't have many votes because (mercifully) it's not used much.

Cote d'Azur - absolute cr*p in any fast car - ludicrously tight and frustrating. :sick: Nelson Piquet had the right idea - he said that driving an F1 car around Monaco was like riding a bicycle around your living room.

Grand Valley - in its full form, too many tight and 180 degree bends. Feels too artificial.

SS7 - why did they bother? :crazy: If they wanted a full speed track, why not the old Test Oval?

Ones I love:👍

Nordschleife - the ultimate racetrack! Narrow for racing but what a sense of occasion and driving challenge! :drool:

Trial Mountain - loved it from the first time I drove it - great variety of corners, fast, great scenery, great elevation changes.

Rome - yes, I love it! Fast, challenging, great scenery. But yes, the older Rome was better.

Madrid - see Rome, but not as fast. Maybe it was a holiday in Madrid a few years back - loved the place!

Monza - fast and sense of occasion.

Some others:

Suzuka - a track made of deliberate technical challenges. Great on slow-medium cars, but I find it too much with really fast ones. Still working on it!

Sarthe - at one level a bit "meh" as a layout, but then it's intended as a track for the fastest cars in the world. With very fast cars, it makes sense.

Ovals - different challenge. For those who think they're boring, as someone once wrote anyone can drive fast on an oval - the problem is driving REALLY fast. I enjoy the sensation of pure speed.

Cape Ring - don't hate it as many others do and the spiral followed by jump has its own zany, arcadish charm, but would rather have Apricot Hill, Midland, El Capitan etc etc than all this track's permutations.
 
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Cote d'Azur - absolute cr*p in any fast car - ludicrously tight and frustrating. :sick: Nelson Piquet had the right idea - he said that driving an F1 car around Monaco was like riding a bicycle around your living room.

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Well, nothing to it, really.

Dougie Lampkin rides through Goodwood House

I originally tried to find the pictures of some loon side-hopping a chest of drawers in his bedroom on a trials (push) bike, but they evade me.

Anyway, I think the point is that Piquet probably wasn't slating Monaco at all.
EDIT: forgot the link! :dunce:
 
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I actually really love all the GT5 tracks. I love the wide open tracks that let the cars really push the limits of grip in high speed corners yet I also adore the tight street cirucits (yes all of them) because of the immense challenge of stringing together lap after lap without having any room for error is just great. Rome, Madrid, London, SSR5. They are all great. OK, SSR7 is dull dull dull and the jumps at Eiger and Cape Ring are silly. Oh yes and Monaco or Cote D'Azur, whatever you want to call it, is a disgrace to the series. It is a cross between the wider and higher speed sections of the modern track crossed with the tighter lower speed section of the older track. Overall, itmakes ti tough to balance a car through that track. I mean the track is too wide in places, then too narrow, the wrong, the Lowes Hairpin has a dreadfully high kerb and the required steering lock with a DFGT is impossible to acheive in the time you have. Then the next corners are good, the tunnel is dull and wide, not quite right. The exit turn from the tunnel is wrong, then chicane is way too tight and the steering lock with a DFGT comes nowhere near mathcing real life There is no run off. Then the swimming poo, the worst part of the track. Rather than being a flat out 150mph flick in an F1 car, it is a 120 mph F1 car braking else you will understeer into the barriers which just aren't there in real life. Real has kerbs and unnecesary run of makin that corner so joyous. GT5 ruined it. 2nd swimming pool chicane is horrid as well. The rest is decent but that circuit is disgracefull.
 
So, I what I picking up here is that the 2 main reasons why people don't like tracks, they don't like the way they looks(what does that have to do with driving?) and/or they're not good at the track(probably because they're too busy looking at the scenery).
 
Wouldn't you rather just drive the track and enjoy the car than blow your brains out?

I hated Cape Ring, but now I look forward to it once I learned its traits.
 
I hate:

-SSR7: So boring I'd rather watch paint dry...

-Nurburgring Nordschleife: So long it would make a journey to sun look like a walk to the park...

-Indianapolis and Daytona Ovals: So primitive and simple it would make a neanderthal look sophisticated...

I love:
-Circuit la Sarthe
-SSR5
-Madrid

You hate Nordschleife? That's disgusting, alot of effort went into that track and it is by far the most fun to drive on.

I agree with the original post - Fuji for me.

To the monaco haters: Give the track another chance, get used to it and you will learn to love it.
 
I can't say there is a single track where in I would rather perform the OP suggestion rather than race on it.
Hard to imagine its as bad as all that.

At any rate, there are only two tracks I absolutely do not like, and in fact do not consider them in the racetrack category.

Eiger and (getting ready for the firestorm) Cote d'Azure. (Monaco)

Something I dislike even more, is Monza with that abomination they call a chicane.
Here, which is worse, is a great racetrack that is completely ruined by that thing.
 
Whats the point of the small Spain map? Beuller? Anyone?

How about the Autumn track-blarggghh!

Whoever said Green Hell is bad should go race the small Spain track over and over and over. Spanish death by scenery and hairpins.

Also worth blowing my brains out- anything that is claiming to be a rally track. Especially Eigerwand or however its spelled. Reminds me of driving a radio flyer (correct, no steering, brakes, suspension or ejection seat) down the side of Mount St Helens. Let the Dirt series handle that market, it's clearly not in PD's toolbox.
 
Not that I will commit sepuku rather than racing but Fuji GP and the Nurb GP are two tracks that I can't find the correct line... Race on those is like a root canal...
 
Does anyone else hate the series of medium-radius left, right, left, right corners on Suzuka?

Finding the right line (or at least, a fast line) through there is a pain in the ass.
 
top gear test track. ugly, boring, dead scenery, etc. hate me if you want. as a test track its "ok". as a race circuit? :banghead:
 
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